July 28, 2016

We've reached the last convention night.

I guess the only thing that matters is Hillary's speech, but feel free to talk about whatever happens. Me, I'm thinking there are just too many speeches. What's left to say?

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Left Bank of the Charles said...

Ah, but who is left to say it?

Bob Ellison said...

I've made enough money.

cubanbob said...

No matter the speeches, no matter thee spin, the Democrat Party is now the official party in favor of grifters, criminals and traitors. Every Democrat running for office be it federal, state and local supports the standard bearer of the Democrat Party Hillary Clinton who is a known grifter, criminal and traitor.

Trump crappy as he is, isn't a grifter, criminal and traitor. Nor is he running for President of The United Mexican States or World President. America is enough for him and the Republicans.

chickelit said...

What's left to say?

I'm guessing there will be some generic misandry and some specific Trump-bashing to be had. I'm also guessing no bridge building; the die is cast.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Foisted upon and reached are not yet synonyms, but with the talent here I understand my observations could be outdated in mere minutes.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

DNC salute to fallen cops is reasonably effective. Just to get from one end to the other without any chants of 'Kill the pigs' breaking out was an achievement.

gadfly said...

I suppose we could do this watch thing while inebriated. One shot of tequila for every detected lie. One shot of tequila plus worm for every time we hear Hillary compliment the Obama regime.

D. said...

>at this point what difference does it make?<

shiloh said...

"What's left to say?"

Althouse 90/10 con majority continued sarcasm and hate notwithstanding, the first woman of a major political party will accept her party's nomination for president.

Historic!

We now return you to sarcasm and hate ...

Lewis Wetzel said...

So now they got a preacher up their telling me how to vote.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Much of this election is about class. Whatever else you may think about the Dems they do a much better job of embracing and giving a voice to their working and flat out poor members than the Republicans, who have often seemed hostile to poor whites in this election cycle.

D. said...

>the first woman of a major political party will accept her party's nomination for president.<

the "1st womyns" thing is old

Yancey Ward said...

I suppose we could do this watch thing while inebriated. One shot of tequila for every detected lie.

Jeez, dude, I only have 10 liquor stores from which to buy tequila, the town would run out in 5 minutes!

D. said...

> than the Republicans, who have often seemed hostile to poor whites in this election cycle.<

hello donald j trump!!11!!

pm317 said...

Althouse, he is joking right? Today!

Lewis Wetzel said...

I suggest that the preacher skip a meal and give the money to the poor. Win-win!

Yancey Ward said...

ARM,

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but here is the thing- the voters gave the nomination to Trump, the one candidate that didn't treat such voters badly.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

'Moral defibrillators to shock this nation with the power of love.' - Reverend William Barber. Great speech.

Yancey Ward said...

The big question for me is can Shelob make it through an hour long speech without going into another long coughing fit. I wonder if her speech was recorded so that she can just lip-sync tonight?

traditionalguy said...

We have been watching for several hours and have been astounded how dull the warm up speakers have been. They made Kaine look exciting compared to a string of zombies.

Then we figured it out. The plan is to make Hillary seem alive and. Exciting by contrast.

Let's see if she does it.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Yancey Ward said...
the voters gave the nomination to Trump, the one candidate that didn't treat such voters badly.


I agree. What is surprising is that this seemed like a radical move.

D. said...

> pm317 said...
Althouse, he is joking right? Today!<

thank allan he didn't say "bring a gun to a knife fight" like baracky








shiloh said...

"the "1st womyns" thing is old"

Indeed, just like the 1st African-American president got old in a hurry to Althouse cons/Reps who are not only years away from achieving the same, but in lieu of Blacks/females this year instead picked a megalomaniacal/narcissistic shyster as their nominee.

Congrats!

Jon Ericson said...

We need more cranial defibrillators.

D. said...

>'Moral defibrillators to shock this nation with the power of love.' <

let's use force to promote "love" hahaha

Dan Hossley said...

Although everything has already been said, not everyone has said it. Trump is the devil....the last eight years have been great....so much more to do....only Hlllary can do it. Did I mention that Trump is the devil? I got it. That's the Democrat pitch. Let's get it over with.

Anonymous said...

Patriotic American Muslims. Yes they exist.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

A chant of 'USA USA' breaks out while a patriotic American muslim speaks. I bet they don't do this in France.

D. said...

>who are not only years away from achieving the same,<

equality = mediocrity

Lewis Wetzel said...

A Palestinian-American Muslim and American soldier is wheeled on stage. He was crippled by enemy fire.
"Ladies and gentlemen -- Major Nidal Hasan!"

Anonymous said...

Muslim parents of fallen soldier calling out Donald Trump for the hater he is, bless those parents.

Jon Ericson said...

Witness protection for Patriotic American Muslims.

Mary Beth said...

I feel kind of sorry for Chelsea. People are going to compare her speech to the ones by the Trump kids and I don't think she will fare well in the comparison.

D. said...

>a patriotic American muslim speaks<

islam and its followers are evil like the communist party

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

And now he offers Trump his copy of the constitution. Classic troll. Even Trump will appreciate that.

Jon Ericson said...

Let's get some Burqua-bag ladies up there Praising Allah, because their spawn killed some infidel.

Anonymous said...

The dead American Muslim soldier was "evil", like his parents standing up on that stage? That is Trumpism at its worst.

Lewis Wetzel said...

"When you ignore the facts people will die!"
Uh . . . Bengazi?

Jon Ericson said...

Hmm, what was that #97?

Jon Ericson said...

LuLuLuLuLuLuLuLuLuLu!

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Here are the generals, shouting at us to make sure to vote for Hillary to bring on some more disastrous wars.

Anonymous said...

Iraq, 4,486 dead.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

I am surprised how patriotic, religious and militaristic this convention has been and how it seems reasonably organic. This reflects Hillary's vision, for good and bad.

shiloh said...

"Let's get it over with."

Not so fast ... 103 days to the presidential election. Never too soon to start a daily exercise program and begin eating a healthy diet. Dems want all Americans to participate in the fruits of liberty!

>

Whoa! The Dems are now the patriotic party!

Thank you Donald J. Trump ...

Jon Ericson said...

No, You're shitting me.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

If you're wondering whether the seats look more filled (and less disruptive) than you'd expect, that's because the crooked, bigoted DNC made it that way!

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Can anyone stand listening to this bellowing warmongering blowhard?

Just STFU already. He sounds exactly like the Full Metal Jacket asshole they were berating earlier as an iteration of Trump.

buwaya said...

They do do that in France.
There really are genuine French muslim patriots.
Thats not odd, it goes back to the Empire.
The first generation of mass-migration to France were the North African Harkis, those loyal soldiers of the illustrious Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian regiments of tirailleurs, spahis, goums. There were no real muslim problems until decades later.

Its not that there are 20, 50 or 70% patriots, but that there are 5, 10, 20% of enemies, unsortable from the rest.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

How many cc's of testosterone did they inject this raving maniac with before throwing him up on the podium?

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I was wondering where James Hetfield's voice went.

YoungHegelian said...

@terry,

So now they got a preacher up their telling me how to vote.

Separation of church & state, you understand. We can't have those goddamn fundamentalists shoving their religion down our throats!

Now, religion that advances the Party Line? It's all good, baby!

Actually, anyone (& by anyone I mean white liberals) who think that the churches play a lesser roll in the Democratic Party than in the Republican has never listened to an urban black radio station around election time. Preachers talking up their favorite candidates all the time.

MikeD said...

All I've needed to know regarding either of the Conventions has been ably supplied by our hostess. I'm waiting with "bated", not baited, breath for the Professor to opine on the acceptance speech.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Without sex extortion against rapist Democratic's of the official United States, Russians have a lot of problems.

With sex extortion of <<>> protection, Russians have fewer problems. UgloAmerican (hat tip Rush) fat old white (usually) perverts fuel Russian dignity even when Communist.

In this sense, I apologize to the Jews I intimated were what Buckley framed the "modern sepsis" that comprises Hitlercasting video Goebels would have blushed at.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria . . .
I think that the dems believe that these were victories. No wonder Sanders bailed from the Democrat party -- seconds after endorsing Clinton. In a way it is Jacksonian. The Scots-Irish are usually betrayed by leaders they trusted.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Tell Hillary that she won't be given the honor of a nomination and an acceptance speech unless she coughs up $225,000.

Jon Ericson said...

I think the numbers are a bit higher than that.
We want #55
We want #55
We want #55
Passion is what I like to see in droogies.

Anonymous said...

Sanders was an Independent before running as a Democrat, of course he would go back to being one, that's no surprise.

Lewis Wetzel said...

I'm not a particularly anti-abortion guy, but even I noticed the good reverend skipped over the abortion issue. Is aborting a baby a sin or is it not a sin, reverend?

narciso said...

yes, the harkis, but as with the south asian community in the uk, a combination of the weak home culture and strong salafi influence radicalizes them,

this general allen wasn't he the one caught up in that weird matter with the kelly woman, who brought the broadwell fustercluck to light,

pm317 said...


STFU, Bernie people. He is not even a Democrat and Democratic party does not owe him anything. He should have run as an independent if he had integrity.

D. said...

>The dead American Muslim soldier was "evil"<

to muslims who follow the koran: fighting for the infidels is evil except if it enhances islam.

Balfegor said...

All these speeches, and honestly, the one thought that keeps running through my mind is that someone should go full-on Gihren Zabi but I have restrained myself, knowing (a) that probably none of you have any idea what that is, and (b) I can't find an English subtitled version so no one will appreciate it but me.

Anyway . . . yeah. That's what goes through my mind. When I listen to political speeches.

(It's space-Hitler from Mobile Suit Gundam whipping up support for the war of independence against the Earth -- it's a famous fictional speech, which is why there's a huge crowd of fans excited to hear it live.)

Lewis Wetzel said...

"Sanders was an Independent before running as a Democrat, of course he would go back to being one, that's no surprise."
That isn't the point, is it, Heidicruz? Sanders endorsed Clinton, the new hero of the neocons. Then he walked away.

Jon Ericson said...

Guildofcannonballs goes back to hushed. He made some sense last night.
I'll peek in now and then, GOC, to see if you've got it together again.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

'Who here makes a living with his hands?' Not complete silence but close.

Jon Ericson said...

HeideCruise#97 is the warm up act.
Wait for the hot, hot, hot 'ol '55.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"The dead American Muslim soldier was "evil", like his parents standing up on that stage? That is Trumpism at its worst."

Thank you.

We agree, but I am so so so concerned not everyone is reasonable like us.

What if Trumpism at its worst is Hitler times 6 or 10 or a million?

What would happen then.

Or, how about Trump is worse than Obama-advisor-favorite-philosopher Mao?

That sends a message: Hitler ain't shit and Whites ain't either, Chinese motherfuckers can kill y'all.

Oh and Africa, ha, don't even get me started on Africa honkey.

D. said...

>There really are genuine French muslim patriots.<

no they are mena(mideast nafrica) apostates who deserve to die according to the koran. real muslim kill the infidel. geez 15 years after 9/11 and peeps be still stuck on stupid about the koran.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Terry said...
That isn't the point


Saunders sailed under a flag of convenience when he signed on as a Democrat last year. Everyone knew this.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

STFU, Bernie people. He is not even a Democrat and Democratic party does not owe him anything. He should have run as an independent if he had integrity.

Go tell Bernie to be independent enough to stop caucusing with the impotent and stupid Democrats, then. That's fine with us. He'll still get more amendments in and successful legislation than any other one of those spineless retards. And he can also take the people he brought in with his movement back out of the party and Congress. Democratic representation in the states and Congress will drop once again to record lows. We don't fucking care. Deal with it on your own. No one wants to go to your stupid party. You even have to pay to keep the seats filled. Lol!

The Clintons are evil vampires. Without them the party would be doing much better. They are basically a copy-cat of the GOPe. The same GOPe that even the GOP has finally cast off.

D. said...

>'Who here makes a living with his hands?' Not complete silence but close.<

there should have been massive applause: political masturbation is their only work.

Anonymous said...

Terry, Sanders didn't walk away. He will still caucus with the Democrats. He won't be caucusing with the Republicans anytime soon.

Jon Ericson said...

So, HeideCruise #97 when is your time up?
Nineish? Tennish? or are you going to double team with ol' '55?

Lewis Wetzel said...

Whenever I see Black ministers preach (or white southern Baptists preach) I am taken aback by the moral commands. "You must do this to be redeemed." I am a Lutheran. I believe that there is nothing you can do to earn the gift of salvation. If you accept salvation, you accept the cross.
If you could lesson the weight of sin by choosing to do certain things there would be no need for Christ and his sacrifice. Maybe that is why the fundamentaists dwell on the OT.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Xavier Becerra proving to be a very weak speaker. Still, a better night than I initially anticipated.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Katy Perry just munched some old lady's carpet and she liked it.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Even the microphone is wrapped in the flag now.

YoungHegelian said...

@pm317,

STFU, Bernie people.

Well, okay, they should STFUA & just go home. The problem is, the Democrats need those people in November. They need those people NOW, since they're the hard core activists who will get out & canvas for the cause for nothing but love of politics.

Didn't the Republican primaries teach you Democrats anything? When you tell people to go fuck themselves, strangely enough, they don't warm to the idea of advancing your agenda.

Waaaaaaaay too much arrogance & condescension out of the Democrats this time. Trump is an arrogant shit, too, but at least he seems to have a wicked sense of humor. But, the Democrats --- it's like the party is run by an assemblage of the SNL Church Lady!

Anonymous said...

Katy Perry, that awful misandrist, she's all in for the Democrats!

Jon Ericson said...

I like Katy Perry's bangs.

narciso said...

it doesn't matter what the majority of a community, is, if their a critical mass of salafi radicalizing the next generation, and discouraging the dissenters,

https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/758827491309916160

Anonymous said...

Katy Perry wouldn't give some guys here the time of day.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Heidicruiz, you aren't making sense. Is Sanders a Democrat or not? If not, he is distancing himself from the very things Clinton represents -- selling out workers for Wall Street $, and the use of the military to expand the reach of capitalism.
Why do you think Sanders won't call himself a Democrat? Does he have a problem with Dennis Kucinich and his proposed "Department of Peace"?

Anonymous said...

Powerful Katy!

Jon Ericson said...

ooh burn zzzz

Guildofcannonballs said...

Have others than us or you or you also (not hosts) "reached" the last day of this convention? If so, why create the barriers "we" build against other Americans, potential allies at that?

Is it a dark heart over-consumed with Satanic hate that compels it?

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

And Russel Brand doesn't need to give her the time of day.

She's boring, probably doesn't even write her own music, and can't think for herself.

pm317 said...

YH, read the blog post. It is pretty good. It will give you the context and better perspective on who the real Bernie people are. I don't think they will ever vote for Hillary, or if they will even vote.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Didn't the Republican primaries teach you Democrats anything? When you tell people to go fuck themselves, strangely enough, they don't warm to the idea of advancing your agenda.

Waaaaaaaay too much arrogance & condescension out of the Democrats this time.


I'm glad I can see it now. You guys were right about them all along.

They are too phony for words.

Anonymous said...

Terry hon. What is confusing you? He was an Independent, became a Democrat to run for Pres, then went back to being an Independant as he was before, am I wrong? Sanders caucased with the Democrats before he ran for Pres. He will still caucus with them now.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

YH, read the blog post. It is pretty good.

YH, don't believe a word of it. The Hillaryites are more low-information than they come. They don't even know who runs their party, for chrissake.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Wasn't the last Democrat who actually won a war named Truman? You know, the only modern president without a college degree?

pm317 said...

Oh, Look at that scared bastard, R&B..
YH is fully capable of making up his own mind.

FWBuff said...

Chelsea isn't nearly as good a speaker as Ivanka, or as Bill for that matter. She has her mother's grating voice.

Jon Ericson said...

HeideCruise, step aside. you embarrass even me.

We want #55
We want #55
We want #55

You do not have "it".

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

I have never heard Chelsea Clinton speak before. She comes across as ordinary and slightly awkward. I have always felt sorry for her because she is so incredibly plain. Ugly girls get treated like shit in our society and probably every other society. She had money so she was somewhat protected but I would guess there are some real scars there as well.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

What am I scared of? Running something on my own and without these useless lackeys?

YoungHegelian said...

@pm317,

YH, read the blog post. It is pretty good

I did. It's true & it all doesn't matter.

The Democrats ALWAYS need to placate the activist Left, every election cycle. They are the folks who do shit at the grass roots level. They are the "true believers" in politics as the arena of virtue.

Same for the Right. You've got to bring the pro-lifers, the Christian political organizations, the 2nd amendment fans, etc. They're the people who'll hit the streets while normal people are living what we call our "lives", which have as little to do with politics as we can make them.

"More flies with honey than with vinegar". These are not new principles.

pm317 said...

wow, ARM! such hate, why?

Jon Ericson said...

She's no Bela Abzug (yet)

Lewis Wetzel said...

I'm not your "hon" heidicruz.
I am registered as an independent, just like Sanders (I think).
I know why I won't call myself a Republican. Why won't Sanders call himself a Democrat?
For what it's worth, this is what the Atlantic says:

Sanders has left a long trail of denunciations of the Democratic Party. He began on the revolutionary left; in 1980, he served as an elector for the Socialist Workers’ Party, founded by Leon Trotsky and committed to nationalizing major industries. In 1989 he said the Democrats and Republicans were “in reality, one party—the party of the ruling class.” That year he wrote an op-ed in the New York Times describing the two parties as “tweedle-dee” and “tweedle-dum” since both subscribed to what he called an “ideology of greed and vulgarity.” As the Republican Party has moved to the right, Sanders has said the Democrats are better, but he has refused to run as a Democrat and continued to insist—as late as the 2012 election—that he is not a Democrat because the party fails to support the interests of workers.


Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Chelsea's not plain. It's possible her hedge fund manager husband paid for her to have plastic surgery. That's not the nose I remember.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

"More flies with honey than with vinegar". These are not new principles.

More limousines for limousine liberals!

FullMoon said...

Bill looks worn out. Everytime they cut to someone clapping, three or four people in the shot are not clapping. Long day, I guess.

eric said...

What's happening outside is more interesting.

Just imagine if these were Republicans treating a fan of Hillary this way.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/james-okeefe-assaulted-thrown-ground-undercover-gig-dnc/#st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/s5ogGFJtDr

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

If I ever have trouble falling asleep I know to listen to this recording of Chelsea Clinton.

Jon Ericson said...

She's no Webster Hubbell, that's for sure.

Mark said...

Me, I'm thinking there are just too many speeches. What's left to say?

Hey Dems, can we get a courtesy flush?

YoungHegelian said...

Oh, God have mercy on poor Chelsea. I've said some terrible things about her in this forum, and, basically, they were all true.

But, no doubt so much was expected of her, & she hasn't done well, even when it handed to her on a silver platter. Multiple times. I cannot believe that the woman isn't smart & conscious enough not to have that eat at her soul.

The comparison must be all the more galling since she & Ivanka Trump are (were?) good friends.

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Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

pm317 said...
such hate, why?


No hate on my part. I remember Rush and others just brutally mocking her appearance. And, she is not an attractive woman. Our society is tough on ugly girls, just a fact.

Anonymous said...

Chelsea, what an absolutely lovely and intelligent, well spoken young woman. Her parents can be proud of her.

Roadkill711 said...

Chelsea's delivery seems robotic. Smiling, but passionless. Is she on some sort of drug tonight?

Jon Ericson said...

Different mix.

eric said...

They put Chelsea on first because she is probably the only person on the planet who is more boring than Hillary.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Look I hate David Bowie because he's better than me.

Demanding people be better through only non-individualized performance is beyond my aspects abstracted come-in-line for.

Modern Love.

Applaud do I Democratic's attempts at not being the Narcissistic Satan that Satan commands them to be 24/7, in allowance for Bowie.

Heck, Johnny Cash too.

Lewis Wetzel said...

ARM-
I don't care about Chelsea Clinton's looks.
What interests me is that she has had every advantage that a person can have -- no siblings to divide mom and dad's attention, parents with money, political and cultural power -- and she is a nothing burger. Her graduate degree is in public health, but she is not qualified to put a band aid on a skinned knee. She married into a family of financial scammers. In a more enlightened age she would have been installed in a nunnery or married off to an unremarkable, but rich, nobleman.

Captain Drano said...

Roadkill, she tapped into Mommy's Xanax.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Hillary is all for women's rights!

D. said...

>I remember Rush and others just brutally mocking her appearance.<

no you remember "the narrative" not the truth

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Isn't this the night we finally discover the real Hillary (v28.2)?

Captain Drano said...

I'll bet in toto this bitch has fucked over more people than she helped.

The fluff is nauseating. Do people really believe this? And Obama's little clips, ugh. I'll bet it even pained him.

Original Mike said...

Saw a piece of it. She did seem drugged.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Terry said...
she has had every advantage that a person can have -- no siblings to divide mom and dad's attention, parents with money, political and cultural power -- and she is a nothing burger.


She has also endured brutal mockery of her appearance at a time when she was still growing, in the very confusing context of the sex scandals created by her father. You probably know the children of wealthy people, not all of them have easy lives.

eric said...

This is a well produced video.

They really shouldn't have Hillary speak after this video. Having her follow this video is a bad idea.

pm317 said...

Chelsea looked fine. She delivered a baby 5 weeks ago. I got the impression she was masking pain (some type of physical pain, may be she was not feeling well). You white (republican) males drool over blond bimbos but do contain yourselves.

Jon Ericson said...

I think ol' '55 almost got the scale model tesla last night.
Let's see how she does tonight.

Captain Drano said...

Interesting it's a male narrator.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

They edited out the clips of Monica Lewinsky. Originally she was the one who was going to introduce her.

David Begley said...

Bush submits a 9-11.bill and no money for NYC? An obvious lie.

Lewis Wetzel said...

A few months ago I saw an interesting juxtaposition: The text of one of the released emails telling Hillary that to appear more human, she should tell stories about her childhood, then a video clip of an interview that she did a few days after she received the email, robotically telling inane stories about her childhood.
For the first time, I felt sorry for Bill Clinton.

Captain Drano said...

Her pantsuit pants are still too short! Drives me crazy!

pm317 said...

Hillary looks great!

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Interesting it's a male narrator.

Males have their uses to Hillary. Occasionally.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

I wonder how much Hillary is charging the DNC for her speech tonight?

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

She's waving to her donors!

Captain Drano said...

Look at Kaine, hopping around like my chihuahua used to.
What a tool.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I wonder how much Hillary is charging the DNC for her speech tonight?

Oh I know! I know! $225,000!

wildswan said...

I'd really like to know why they broke out the American flags - on the Day 2 of the Convention. Obviously not part of the plan. People are strangely incurious. Now we have Hillary, "the neocons favorite" in the comments. Part of the same mystery.

My speculation is: there are absolutely disastrous internal polls - far worse than the huge convention bounce which we know Trump got. (Every day of that convention had something interesting happen, ending with a speech which was a good introduction to Trump.)

Now the DNC is just so tedious, so many speeches. It isn't a brilliant group of people - it's mainly Democratic hacks and some snarky women comedians showcased like a kindergarden graduation. Cute little fellow makes effort, Applaud; cute little girl makes effort, applaud; we're up to the "o's", applaud. People were thinking the show was starting slow, maybe, but now we know from frenzied media applause that this is all there is. Unless Hillary starts coughing.

David Begley said...

Chelsea has a net worth of $15m. Of course she's grateful.

YoungHegelian said...

@Terry,

Her graduate degree is in public health, but she is not qualified to put a band aid on a skinned knee. She married into a family of financial scammers. In a more enlightened age she would have been installed in a nunnery or married off to an unremarkable, but rich, nobleman.

Oh, no, Terry. Worse than that. She was handed three upper six figure jobs in three completely different industries & she botched them all. She now back working for the Clinton Foundation AKA the family store.

And really --- Sidwell Friends, Stanford, Oxford, Columbia. Does she seem capable of any of them? But, that's a big part of the Ivies now --- Their mission statement: "We credentialize your spawn, O Men of Power, & in turn you give us money so that we to do whatever useless shit we wish to do without outside interference".

Jon Ericson said...

I'm on tenterhooks. Again.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

White dresses conceal semen stains better.

pm317 said...

8 years too late but the day is here.

eric said...

Oh no, she has already started with clearing her throat. I hope she has enough drugs in her not to cough her way through this.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Thank you for bringing Mark into our family!

And all his hedge fund money!

eric said...

Are they chanting Hillary because there is a protester?

I have a feeling they will keep the camera's away from any protest that breaks out.

David Begley said...

Today the conversation between Bill and Hill is how to shake down foreign governments.

Lewis Wetzel said...

"They edited out the clips of Monica Lewinsky. Originally she was the one who was going to introduce her."
Good one!
Those "average citizens" on earlier tonight, the ones who were so glad that Hillary talked to them about their problems? They've kind of served their purpose, haven't they? I doubt that they will hear from Hillary again.
You know, concerning other presidents and first ladies, you occasionally hear about their random acts of kindness. Getting someone into college, paying their bills, appearing at a celebration . . .
I've never heard anything like that about the Clintons.

pm317 said...

oh God Grumpy Old bitter man.. crack a smile if it does not hurt.

cubanbob said...

AReasonableMan said...
I have never heard Chelsea Clinton speak before. She comes across as ordinary and slightly awkward. I have always felt sorry for her because she is so incredibly plain. Ugly girls get treated like shit in our society and probably every other society. She had money so she was somewhat protected but I would guess there are some real scars there as well.
7/28/16, 9:09 PM"

Dude I am no fan of Hillary but really that is low. Chelsea loves her mom and dutifully and lovingly spoke for her mom. As for Bill despite it all he definitely looks like he has a genuine affection for Hillary and Bill and Hill are good parents, no denying that. That said, I won't vote for her but I won't deny they are humans and do have feelings and families and are not stick figures. All the same she would do the country a favor by losing and going home and being the best grandmother she can be.

Lewis Wetzel said...

YoungHegelian-
I admired a few things about Christopher Hitchens. His decision to send his kids to Sidwell Friends was not one of them.

Fabi said...

Hillary looks very nice.

FWBuff said...

*Newsflash* Hillary is a terrible public speaker.

narciso said...

civility have we seen that displayed for the family of republicans from w's kids to palin's to romney's give me a break,

chelsea cannot help who she is, perhaps which family she married into it,

Laslo Spatula said...

Lamar Gonna Set You Straight....

Shit, this is what you White People watch? Does it feel good to you? Make you feel like all is Right and Good in White World? Do you White People think I sleep better at night after watching this Self-Congratulatory White shit...?

Chelsea Clinton? Seriously? Everything she has accomplished has been none no better than some Arkansas Affirmative Action Hire, except she gets to keep going on Higher to Where The Real Money Is. Us Black People, we know the REAL Glass Ceiling, and you all made the fucking glass bulletproof, because -- you know: Blacks and Guns and all That Gangsta Shit...

Blacks: we never get to sniff the Big Money. Once some Blacks started to be Millionaires, what happened? You Whites had to up yourselves to Billionaires and shit: if the Black Man has a penny you Whites ain't happy with less than a dollar...

Fuck the White Democrats. Fuck Hillary. Fuck Chelsea and her bitch-ass thousand-dollar hair.

You think you got Problems? Fuck You.

I am Laslo.

eric said...

Stop clearing your throat!

Play fight song again, as much as that drives me into a bloodlust frenzy, your throat clearing is worse!

pm317 said...

@cubanbob, thank you!

YoungHegelian said...

@Cubanbob,

I don't think ARM meant it as a low blow. I think he meant it as just a statement of societal fact.

Whatever she may have looked like earlier, I don't think she's unattractive now. This is not the photo of an ugly woman. Sure, she's made up & coiffed, but all beautiful women who appear "in public" are. She isn't a model, but, hey, few of anyone is.

buwaya said...

Big plus of Chelsea is that she did have kids.
Bill is a lowlife, but a very talented fellow. Probably gets the sleaziness from how he was raised. His wife is of above average intelligence at least, whatever her faults, which may also have to do with how she was raised.
So there are good genes there.
A role model, of sorts, for her kind.

Rob said...

Stiff, devoid of any sign of spontaneity, uninspiring. The reporters and pundits will declare it a great success, but it's not.

Fabi said...

Look at all those xenophobic, jingoistic Democrats waving those American flags!

narciso said...

I see no need to demonize her, a plus in her favor, is her mother chose to share with her the truth about what happened in libya, while she lied to the rest of the nation,

David Begley said...

Terrible speech so far. She is saying nothing.

eric said...

I can't believe how bad at this she is.

She's no Obama.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Trump really made it easy for her, with a negative campaign against the current state of America. The themes she's able to put together in this speech will make it a very successful nominating speech, I predict.

Obama must have lent her some of her best speechwriters. They certainly put together something much better than I ever heard Bill speak. Either that, or it was just the dynamic of the current primary that she's been able to integrate into it.

FullMoon said...

AReasonableMan said...
I have never heard Chelsea Clinton speak before. She comes across as ordinary and slightly awkward. I have always felt sorry for her because she is so incredibly plain. Ugly girls get treated like shit in our society and probably every other society. She had money so she was somewhat protected but I would guess there are some real scars there as well.



Awww, poor thing had her feelings hurt as a kid? How so? At school? Listening to talk radio, watching Fox news? Nobodt else has ever beenteased as a kid and recovered, I guess.
BTW, you have called her ugly more than Limbaugh.

PB said...

She's into full screech mode now. So much for that voice training.

eric said...

Blogger Rob said...
Stiff, devoid of any sign of spontaneity, uninspiring. The reporters and pundits will declare it a great success, but it's not.


When I watched the Republican convention, they would break away to any protester. I'm only watching this for the protests. And yet, they aren't showing them.

I want my money back.

Fabi said...

She has to be the worst public speaker of any major politician in either party. No warmth, no sincerity, a grating voice -- wowza.

PB said...

It takes a village (ghost writer?) a book no one read, but loyal democrats bought it for their coffee tables to virtue-signal.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I can't believe how bad at this she is.

She's no Obama.


I don't think she's doing too bad, and I had low expectations for this.

However, she is a hell of a lot more stern than Obama - and that's a bit of a scary trait to see in a president. She should be more self-effacing than Nixonian, but is too afraid that people will dismiss her for being a woman unless she lays on the aggressive "toughness" especially thick. It's the theme of Hillary's political life.

Original Mike said...

Something like, "We have the mot tolerant young people we've ever had.". Farcical.

PB said...

You can send your kid to a "good" school, except the public schools in Democrat/union controlled states.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Yeah, this is actually working. Trump's narcissism is a brittle facade, and her genuine (if occasionally nasty) aggression actually works well as a contrast against that.

David Begley said...

How can we be stronger together when 70% don't trust her? Big problem!

PB said...

I wonder how much this outfit cost? Not at Sears.

Rob said...

Jeez, Bill looks disconsolate. Couldn't he fake enthusiasm for just a few minutes?

Captain Drano said...

And the Dem's have fought vouchers tooth and nail, which hurts lower and middle class families.

PB said...

8 years as Senator, 4 years as SecState, then cashing in BIG time!

FullMoon said...

Jeeze, I was going to compliment her for keeping it short. She accepted and now is gonna start rolling on about "stuff".

Lewis Wetzel said...

I am not watching the speech. I am, instead, watching 2001's "The Fellowship of the Ring."
I know, Jackson was criticized for modernizing the story (bigger role for women, etc.), but it is probably as true to the original as it could be and still make boffo box office. I think that The Children of Hurin was as good or better than LOTR, but it will never be made into a film, or so says Christopher Tolkien. He was disappointed with Jackson's version, to say the least.

eric said...

I feel sorta good that I was right about this convention.

The whole point is to turn Hillary into a human being. Her greatest weakness is herself. She is terrible. Robotic. A complete and total insider who has no emotion and no empathy for her fellow Americans. What difference, at this point, does it make?

And this speech is exactly what I figured it would be. Look at me! I'm a mom! I help disabled people. Children. I care! Kids! I care! I love you Bill! I love you Chelsea. I care!

Rob said...

If she and the Obama EPA were sweating the details about exactly how much lead could be in the water in Flint, Michigan, then what went wrong? Can't wait for the fact check on that. Ha, just kidding!

Rob said...

Her voice is unpleasant, but what the heck. It's her Party and she'll schrei if she wants to.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

I can't see this speech changing many minds. She has odd mannerisms that don't work on television. May not be such an issue in person.

Original Mike said...

Here comes strident Hillary.

Anonymous said...

Why does it bother men to see a strong woman?

"When barriers fall for America it clears the way for everyone". Yes indeed.

Captain Drano said...

Tull's "Let's go living in the past" would be an apt tune for her. Sheesh, she acts like we're still in the 60's, with the same social problems.

eric said...

Imagine a drinking game where you drink every time she clears her throat.

Ugh. You'd be passed out already.

Original Mike said...

"Why does it bother men to see a strong woman?"

It doesn't.

Captain Drano said...

Expand voting rights?? Wtf?

Luke Lea said...


Trump: "I alone can fix it," meaning that of all the candidates he is the only one who knows how to fix it and has what it takes as a leader to get it done. He may be mistaken about this, but to say that he was claiming he could do it all by himself is a deliberate misreading -- a cheap shot. Defamation of character is the sum total of the Democratic strategy against Trump in the fall. He is a racist, a hater, a bigot, etc., hoping the tens of millions of working- and lower-middle-class Americans won't listen to what he has to say about our current trade and immigration policies.

Scott M said...

I misread that as "screech" then realized that no correction was needed.

Captain Drano said...

"Why does it bother men to see a strong woman?"

You know a strong one when every other word out of her mouth isn't "woman."

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

"When barriers fall for America it clears the way for everyone". Yes indeed.

Including for small-money campaign donors?

eric said...

Oh crap. Here comes screechy Hillary.

Please make it stop.

narciso said...

what is she strong about, she won her senate seat because she was the wife of a president, who stood by while he humiliated her, she lost to obama, unfairly I think and she took a job, where she was stripped of negotiating authority, she crushed a popular movement with 150 million dollars collected from every sordid corner of the word, from nigerian conman to saudi sheikhs,

buwaya said...

I prefer Dolores Ibarruri "La Pasionaria"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3iKa8jOweA

More honest, for the most part.

Well, actually, I much prefer Lola Flores -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hn96uHkthU

D. said...

>Why does it bother men to see a stupid woman?<

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