July 17, 2016

"These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop...."

"We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best."

President Barack Obama.

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traditionalguy said...

That is hilarious coming from the head LAWLESS ONE.

Obama has has spent 7+ years working at two things: golf and replacing our respect for lawful authority with total lawlessness all of the time.

Jupiter said...

"The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best."

Which is why I got up on my back legs at the funeral in Dallas and told the people who loved and needed those officers that they were all racists and had it coming.

Francisco D said...

The race war that leftists have been hoping for is in full swing.

Owen said...

A little late.

About 7-1/2 years.

hombre said...

The excerpt sounds presidential - at last!

smitty said...

Obama is finally realizing the seriousness of the game he's been playing the last seven and one half years.

...Nah.

Franciscan said...

"Race war leftists have been hoping for"... Insane comment.

mockturtle said...

At least he didn't mention 'gun violence'. Sounds like a pretty good speech.

mikee said...

Having helped (a lot) to create the current crisis, I await with held breath the uses to which our president puts the current crisis.

The Drill SGT said...

Jupiter said...
Which is why I got up on my back legs at the funeral in Dallas and told the people who loved and needed those officers that they were all racists and had it coming.


They must have done polling and discovered the GOP would kill them if the election devolved into Law and Order versus BLM and the Panthers...

Michael said...

Trying to back peddle from years of intemperate rhetoric on police. What a jackass.

Francisco D said...

Franciscan,

Hillary/Soros trolls are easy to spot.

Michael K is right. It's getting a bit thick with trolls in here.

TWW said...


Chicagoland, Dallas and Baton Rouge

There have been 349 homicides in Chicago this year. This compares to 490 for all of 2015. The vast majority of these were black-on-black murders. (See Chicagoland: http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/homicides)

And yet Black Lives Matter, the Black Panthers, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and Barack Obama (by his willful non-support) believe cops are the main threat to Black Americans? They don't seem to realize that if the Blue suddenly went on strike, refused to preserve and protect, the first casualties would be in minority neighborhoods.

Why is this? My theory: to confront the real problem in cites such as Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit and others does not fit the narrative nor the ultimate goals of Liberalism. To confront them is to admit that the policies of Democrat controlled cities over the last half century have failed. To confront them is to admit, as Charles Barley said, "Blacks have voted Democrat for 50 years and they're still poor." To confront them is not really the goal of Liberals because they want to keep the poor, poor; the disenfranchise , disenfranchised; It is their source of power.

cf said...

With all due respect, fuck you Mr. president.

Martha said...

But Obama spoke without passion. His heart was not in it. He seemed bored actually.

Doug said...

If today's shooting had killed three abortion providers, the network's would race to find the shooter's connection to the Tea Party and the NRA. Let's hope internet journalists will find this shooter's connection to BLM and the New Black Panthers just as quickly.

Ipso Fatso said...

If Obama had a son he would look like....

--Gavin Long

--Micah Johnson

--Nidal Malik Hasan

--(Insert Your Favorite Here)

n.n said...

Nothing about [class] diversity. Positive progress.

Next, the acknowledgment and valuation of human life from conception. Baby steps.

Rockport Conservative said...

Very good words. I did not see it. I do not know if they are heartfelt, all evidence up to the present shows they are not heartfelt, but maybe he has at last got a clue to what is going on. On the other hand nahhh.... somebody wrote it. Still it sounds good. I wish he meant it.

rhhardin said...

It's not the work of cowards. It's the work of serious but stupid people, dedicated to a cause that Obama suggested to them.

He suggested it because it's good for Obama, if the backlash can be kept under control anyway.

It seemed like it would be good, to him.

The MSM will keep it going as long as it draws eyeballs. Free publicity and honor for assassins, you guys! Come on in!

Paco Wové said...

Maybe it's not so much who they "speak for", it's who they listen to.

Paul said...

Remember when a certain presidential candidate said, "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"... Remember when that certain candidate became president and then went on commenting on ongoing cases involving Police saying they were wrong? Active very emotional cases involving shootings? Well that's president's chickens have come home to roost. He words very much had an effect.

A very negative effect.

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

Well said. Credit where credit is due.

Badly punctuated, but well said.

Fernandinande said...

I get tingles up my leg when hearing Obama speak. Who knew meralgia paresthetica was transmitted by sound!?

buwaya puti said...

This is just starting. Its too easy, and copycats will be all over soon enough. Also escalation. It will not be just police.
This is the blowback from the Dem GOTV efforts they have been running since 2012.
The Dems cant stop now, so escalation is inevitable.
I said this would be a bad year. The stakes are too high.

Chuck said...

I won't defend the Obama record of the last seven years. I think it's a dubious -- or worse -- record, in particular with regard to his record on race relations and the racial gaming at the Department of Justice.

But I am not sure that I could have written a better statement for Obama to read tonight. At least not a better statement that he'd agree to read.

Compare; the edgy, angry, abrasively politicized, imprecise language of Trump, from his Twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Jon Ericson said...

Check former thread.
Lots of new info.

Real American said...

"Race war leftists have been hoping for"... Insane comment.

Exactly! Leftists have done far more than merely "hope" for this race war.

JCC said...

I don't see what else the Golf Presidente could say, but tomorrow, this will be about gun control and healing, about fixing the endemic racism of American policing. The DOJ will come into Baton Rouge and help them fix their police problems.

Obama remains dedicated to socially re-engineeing America. He remains closer to Bill Ayers and Marxist thought, to Reverend Wright and Black Liberation Theology, to Muslims, than he does to mainstream America. To think otherwise is to ignore reality.

But I assume Democrats are starting to panic at this lawlessness and violence, from both the left and the radical Islamists, because its continuance can only hurt their election chances. No matter how much inner city minorities applaud this perceived change of power status taking place before us, there are only so many voters available from those zip codes. If the suburbs actually get scared and decide Trump has some value in this debacle after all, the Democrats could conceivably lose this race, which right now seems a lock for Hillary.

And I assume we are in for a long, long summer, much like that in 1968 or 1970.

pst314 said...

After hearing eight years of Obama, it's clear that if Obama had a son he would look like the cop killers.

Fabi said...

Real Republican Chuck shows up to praise Obama's speech and to criticize Trump. This is my shocked face!

Michael McClain said...

Fundamental change in America.

rhhardin said...

It's peaking nicely for the Repub convention in Cleveland for the Dems.

The Dems will have spin doctors ready for anything. What a great opportunity.

rhhardin said...

Of course there's the Dem convertion to worry about too. That's the rub with screwing the Repub convention. These helpers are out of control a little.

rhhardin said...

Maybe teaching good character in schools would help, or teaching who to admire.

Derbyshire admires the grace of the surrender of Lee to Grant, for instance. Enemies no longer enemies, just like that.

Who teaches that to black kids? Not the media.

rhhardin said...

MLK had a line suggesting grace would be helpful but nobody picks up on it.

rhhardin said...

Obama could be called graceless, or a piece of shit, as I like to put it.

rhhardin said...

It's always a mistake to avoid the perfect turn of phrase when one exists made up exactly for the precise situation.

PB said...

He'll not rest until he finds a motive. Just like so many things he said he'd never rest until...

But there was so much golf to be played.

rhhardin said...

It's going to wear out Obama speechwriters, going to all these policeman funerals.

Perhaps Biden can be pressed into service.

rhhardin said...

I hope native Americans don't go on the warpath next. What's Elizabeth Warren up to?

Francisco D said...

Chuck,

Give it up. there are other sites. Try them.

You have zero credibility here - less than the late not-so-great Garage
Mahal. He was stupid, but honest about his intentions.

Chuck said...

Francisco D said...
Chuck,

Give it up. there are other sites. Try them.

You have zero credibility here - less than the late not-so-great Garage
Mahal. He was stupid, but honest about his intentions.


In twenty-five words or less, what are my intentions?

If this is a Trump-only, no-criticism-of-Trump-allowed forum, I suspect somebody better break that news to Professor Althouse.


William said...

i don't think it takes much reflection to condemn someone who intentionally runs over children as in Nice. That's not a thorny moral issue. Very easy to find a Muslim cleric who denounces the murder of children. But these same clerics are far more circumspect in their denunciations of those who call for the murder of Mohammed cartoonists.......Just so with Obama. He's not down with the calculated murder of police officers, but you will never hear him condemn the god awful rhetoric of the BLM movement.

robinintn said...

Ah, yes. The ever green 'unfathomable' motive. That thing is like a unicorn. But more politically useful.

narciso said...

having lingered more on the names of the criminals, rather than the officers, it was mercifully short but also beside the point, there's less possibility of bloodshed prompted by this speech,

rhhardin said...

Evil is not so easy to recognize as it's supposed in an adult world. It enters anywhere and takes effort to see.

The MSM is one huge place for it.

The one evil corporation, and nobody notices.

Tom said...

I propose 3 laws.

1) The Hillary Clinton Restoration of Mens Rea Act that requires all violation of laws and regulations require proof of criminal intent or intent respectively.

2) The Prohibition of Policing for Profit Act. This act bans at the federal and state level any policing for profit scheme through the enforcement of petty laws. It provides for a means of proving policing for profit as a legal defense, a means of civil recovery, and a means to double civil recovery if the policing for profit scheme has an adverse affect on a protected class. This laws would also reform civil asset seziure, creating a requirement for due process and armed robbery penalities for officials who abuse civil asset seziure.

3) End of Qualified Immunity Act - end the court created right of qualified immunity for government agents.

rhhardin said...

i don't think it takes much reflection to condemn someone who intentionally runs over children as in Nice.

The traditional rule for disasters is

1. Overseas: how many Americans

2. Domestic: how many children

David Begley said...

Traditionalguy nails it.

Murderer was a Black Nationalist who called himself Cosmo. Videos on You Tube. Complete buy in on identity politics.

pm317 said...

@ Jon Ericson initial reports were that there were multiple suspects and now it is a lone wolf nothing to see move on..they did the same thing with Dallas. The guy was emphatic at the presser which I thought was sort of fake.

Jon Ericson said...

Chuck lives in another world.
The world where a WaPo, NYT and CNN version of Trump is on a continuous loop inside his brain.

Sebastian said...

"there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None."

Right. So that's why DoJ backed up Darren Wilson against Michael Brown from Day One.

On 9/11 Bill Ayers said his only regret was that he didn't do enough. Looks like he is getting what he wants.

I wonder, did O ever express his current ("none") sentiment to Chesa Boudin, when he was over at Ayers/Dohrn to launch his political career?

khesanh0802 said...

@Chuck Nothing Trump said was wrong or inflammatory. He was telling a truth that Obama has contributed mightily to. Why should anyone be considerate of the law when the highest elected in the land is not. And then of course there's Hillary!

rhhardin said...

Who will Hillary Vince Foster first if she gets in?

Francisco D said...

Chuck,

In less than 25 words ..

Y-O-U A-R-E A P-H-O-N-Y!

Stop wasting my time.

rhhardin said...

On some less fraught day somebody ought to explain how racism and Bayes' theorem differ.

It seems like intention no longer matters. You can't be a well-meaning Baysean.

Instead Bayes is denounced as wrong. But it's just mathematics. It's right.

CJ said...

There have now been two Dylan Roof attacks from blacks on whites. Can we have a national conversation about taking down black monuments?

Rick said...

These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one.

Obama's first instinct is to protect BLM. Quite different from Bill Clinton's explicitly blaming the political right for the Oklahoma City bombing. It's so gratifying to see the left grow and renounce such tactics.

YoungHegelian said...

In their attempts to gin up their base(s) for the coming election, the Democrats have sadly, for the umpteenth time, fallen for their "no enemies on the left" fantasy.

There are many enemies on the Left for the Dems, and the hard Left has historically excelled at subverting & then taking over more moderate organizations to their own ends (e.g. Hubert Humphrey & his protege Walter Mondale earned their political chops purging unions in the Midwest of the communists who had taken them over). The Democrats now have themselves in a pact with the Devil, which it's unlikely they'll be able to extricate themselves from. The Sanders' campaign enabled the Red Guard Left, & the press was able to paint the violence they perpetrated against the Trumpsters as somehow being the Trumpsters fault. Now, in using the police shootings of blacks as an organizing tool to bring in the black vote, the Dems have released the proverbial Kraken, the incredibly dysfunctional, absolutely nutjob racialist blacks activist community. These are the people that the Dems always want desperately to hide (quick! --- Nation of Islam -- Million Man March -- what do you know about Yacub? How come you don't?). And, now, they can't hide them, because they're out shooting cops, including black cops, in cold blood.

If Donald Trump had all the money in Citibank's vaults, he couldn't have bought a way to hang a heavier millstone around the necks of the Dems.

rhhardin said...

Citibank's money is at the Federal Reserve, where it's earning interest.

Rick said...

CJ said...
There have now been two Dylan Roof attacks


Do you suppose Obama will ever figure out Dylan Roof's motivation?

Chuck said...

Jon Ericson said...
Chuck lives in another world.
The world where a WaPo, NYT and CNN version of Trump is on a continuous loop inside his brain.


I live in a world where the NRO, Weekly Standard and WSJ view of Trump is regarded as the one serious view of Trump.

Not NYT. Not MSNBC. Not CNN.

And for that matter, back when Donald Trump was still registered as a Democrat and supporting Democratic politicians, NRO, the Weekly Standard and the WSJ were all taking on media bias.


Jon Ericson said...

@Pm317
If you rewatch that presser
The Gov, slips and says "These perpetrators, if there are more than one will be brought to justice"

Hagar said...

The Obama White House kicked Jesse Jackson to the curb and picked the Rev. Al Sharpton to be their front man on race relations.
Well, freezing out Jesse Jackson may have something to do with Chicago city politics, but Al Sharpton? Really?
It is very difficult to take anything Obama or his appointees say about improving race relations serious.

Jon Ericson said...

I live in a world where the NRO, Weekly Standard and WSJ view of Trump is regarded as the one serious view of Trump.

Not NYT. Not MSNBC. Not CNN.

Same-Same re Mister Trump.

narciso said...

no mckisson is, sharpton is 'old and busted', in relative terms, it's like the fatah old bulls vs the hamas newcomers,

PackerBronco said...

The only thing I want to hear from him is an apology.

Moneyrunner said...

Shorter Obama: "It's not my fault. It's the fault of every radical kook who ever took me seriously."

narciso said...

it's more like the duke brothers plaintive cry to 'turn the machines' back on, at the exchange,

narciso said...

from assata shakur to the present day,


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/17/short-list-black-lives-matters-cop-killing-heroes/

Moneyrunner said...

Chuck, there is a lesson in history if you will listen. When Hitler attacked Russia the CPUSA went from anti-war to pro-war in a heartbeat. What happens when NR, Weekly Standard and WSJ editorial page endorses Trump. You'll be out here naked and looking stupid. Don't be stupid. It's not the way to go through life.

Bay Area Guy said...

Its a nice set of words (just words?!), but the context is atrocious.

Obama and the Left rely on inner city back votes, and, to get those votes, they ignore black crime rates, and instead focus their ire on the unjust, racist cops.

The War on Cops had been brewing for a while and all it takes is a few more Micah Johnsons cajoled and coaxed to continue taking potshots at the police to continue this mayhem.

Rhythm and Balls said...

So... whatever he does it's wrong. Blame everything on the black guy.

Thanks for clearing up where you guys are coming from.

tim in vermont said...
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tim in vermont said...

You are not even trying, R&B.

Chuck said...

Moneyrunner:

The WSJ editorial board doesn't do candidate endorsements. Their last endorsement was Herbert Hoover. If you were a Journal reader, you might have known that.

If you think NR is going to endorse Trump, after running the NeverTrump issue, I've got a bridge in Chicago to sell you. And since Bill Kristol runs the Weekly Standard, and Kristol is still looking for an independent to run against Trump, I don't see a Trump endorsement coming any time soon.

rhhardin said...

"You gotta sing it with that kind of enthusiasm, like you just squashed a cop."

The Motorcycle Song Arlo Guthrie.

I like him much better than Bob Dylan, incidentally.

mockturtle said...

Having read more of Obama's speech, I have to retract my prior positive opinion. He was obviously aiming at Trump with his warnings about 'inflammatory rhetoric' [not, notably, BLM participants] 'to score political points'. What an asshole! He is the most divisive president in my lifetime, including Nixon.

Rhythm and Balls said...

You are not even trying, R&B.

I think, "blame everything on the black guy," is the definition of not even trying.

Making him a 1-term president as priority #1? Not even trying. It's been three and a half years since that gambit failed. Still no Plan B. Not even trying.

It's good to see how far all the "non-racist" Republicans want to take their "blame everything on the black guy" strategy.

Before Obama, it was (and still is), "blame everything on the black voter." Now they have a black president to blame everything on.

Obama is responsible for everything that every black American does, don'tcha know? ;-)

Just as the white presidents were responsible for everything every white American criminal ever did.

Oh wait. Did that sound racist?

Unknown said...

"So... whatever he does it's wrong. Blame everything on the black guy.

Thanks for clearing up where you guys are coming from."

You boot-licking acolytes have ignored for over seven years now that all Obama's speeches have amounted to little more than divisive rhetoric and taunting, so it's no wonder that you continue to attempt to play the increasingly worn and impotent "racist" card whenever others refuse to join the cult of personality that propelled one of the worst candidates ever into the Oval Office, and is sure to do the same come November (no matter which major party candidate wins).

Face it. The "black guy" will leave this country far less united and far less safe than when he entered office. Yet those who should be loudest in their criticism of him - the black community, which has suffered far more in terms of unemployment and now in an uptick of violent neighborhood crime - still faithfully defends him, based on the color of his skin.

Now THAT is racism.

Jesse said...

"Oppps. We started a race war...."

The Cracker Unknown said...

" Blame everything on the black guy. "

You're tacitly implying that he's incompetent and childish because he's black and therefore shouldn't be held accountable.

There is no one more viciously racist than a White middle-class liberal. God knows they rack up a higher Black body count in a single year than the KKK did in it's entire history.

Static Ping said...

Obama is concerned about "rule of law?" Really?

tim in vermont said...

Obama has been dishonest going on 8 years. If you like your plan.., etc.etc.

He has only tried to be president of half the country, never sought compromise, just unconditional surrender. I am sure you liked that, but forgive us for tuning him out.

narciso said...

he always assumes the police are 'acting stupidly' he's usually looking in the mirror, in sanford he helped force zimmerman underground, along the crump/julian axis, same for ferguson, baltimore et al, when it comes to islamists, it's man caused disasters, workplace violence, and rogue 'crockpots' same with orlando, san bernardino nice et al,

tim in vermont said...

Look at what he has done to the FBI, the IRS, Fast and Furious, he gives zero shits about the law.

tim in vermont said...

I guess that Obama is so flawless that the only possible grounds to oppose him is racism. No honest disagreement is possible!

Jon Ericson said...

THERE IS STILL TIME TO IGNORE THE FUCKING TROLL.

Limited Perspective said...

Can't this guy, along with the Clintons just go away, just shut up, just fade away and leave us alone. Can't he just say, "Look, I thought I could make things better but this place is really screwed up and I probably made things worse. I'm handing things over to Biden for the last few months. I'm going Pope Benedict on the American people. May God have mercy on my soul."

Having thought Trump a buffoon, I was going to skip the election for the first time in my life. I'm voting for the buffoon. We're in a mess and we need someone to muss our hair and figure out how to comb it again.

Jon Ericson said...

Naw, Just kidding, Tradguy thinks he brings something to the discussion.

Moneyrunner said...

Shorter Obama: "The cops were attacked by no one"

Rhythm and Balls said...

You're tacitly implying that he's incompetent and childish because he's black and therefore shouldn't be held accountable.

So what non-racist standard is the standard of "Be a one-term president and get out or else!"?

LOL.

Bay Area Guy said...

If Obama criticized BLM, I would not blame him, I would salute him.

If he criticized the New Black Panther, I'd salute him too.

If he criticized the Nation of Islam, I'd salute him again.

Rhythm and Balls said...

He has only tried to be president of half the country, never sought compromise, just unconditional surrender.

Oh, what total bullshit. He compromised on tax cuts. He asked the Republicans to offer their own health care reform. They refused. Nope, nope, nope. Like the Arabs in 1967. He asked how they would help with the economy - the same way they did for Bush. Nope, nope, nope. Just make him a one-term president. Make him fail and grade him and don't help and refuse any solutions of your own. We knew what was going on, the writing was on the wall. Thanks, Mitch McConnell.

Jon Ericson said...

Comment by Rhythm and Balls blocked.

I think I'll just wait for someone to quote R&B.

Blood pressure, you know...

Rick said...

Jon Ericson said...
THERE IS STILL TIME TO IGNORE THE FUCKING TROLL.



Blog Comment Killfile helps.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/blog-comment-killfile/kpoilnkelonbaapoapibddjaojohnpjf/related?hl=en-US

narciso said...

I remember his spirit of compromise 'I won'


http://www.weaselzippers.us/284229-reporters-in-kansas-city-met-by-man-with-ak47-at-baton-rouge-cop-killers-address-police-now-at-house/

this looks like the makings of a cell,

Jon Ericson said...

@Rick
Way ahead of ya. :-D

Moneyrunner said...

"Just as the white presidents were responsible for everything every white American criminal ever did."

Hell, you pulled your punches there bunkie. Everything ever white man did makes them responsible for everything every white man did. Especially Lee Atwater. Get with the program man, you're slipping. What's the matter with you?

Rhythm and Balls said...

Ignore commenters, ignore black voters. Thanks for admitting how easily your strategy comes to you.

Moneyrunner said...

Poor Barack, he just can't get any breaks. Cops would not be getting killed if only Mitch McConnell.

Moneyrunner said...

i'm not ignoring you R&B. I'm agreeing with you.

LarsPorsena said...

The Nobel Committee called. They told him he could keep the money but they want the medal back.

Rick said...

Comment by Rhythm and Balls blocked. [unhush]​[show comment]

7/17/16, 8:38 PM


Here's what comes through. What would Althouse be like without people only here to be assholes to others?

Better.

Moneyrunner said...

How can I ignore black voters when they kill cops? They're just taking voting to the next level?

Dr Weevil said...

"So what non-racist standard is the standard of 'Be a one-term president and get out or else!'?"
I know, I know! The Herbert Hoover standard. Decent human being, but an utter and total failure as a president.

LarsPorsena said...

He's been on this road since those 'stupid' cops detained his buddy Skip.

Moneyrunner said...

Darn, R&B blocked? We were just getting along!

LarsPorsena said...

Blogger Dr Weevil said...
"So what non-racist standard is the standard of 'Be a one-term president and get out or else!'?"
I know, I know! The Herbert Hoover standard. Decent human being, but an utter and total failure as a president.
-------------------------------------------------------------

Please, Hoover was a great mining engineer and his famine relief saved millions of lives in Post WWI Europe.
Obama is a community organizer.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Which is why Rick doesn't have a successful blog and Althouse does.

Big Mike said...

Montrell Jackson -- make that the late Montrell Jackson -- is worth several dozen Barack Obamas.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Every percent unemployment increases 40,000 people die.

Herbert Hoover killed people. Obama decreased the unemployment rate from Bush's recessionary high of over 10% to less than 5%.

But of course it's not like we're judging him by a different standard or anything.

Gahrie said...

Herbert Hoover killed people. Obama decreased the unemployment rate from Bush's recessionary high of over 10% to less than 5%.

By driving people out of the workforce (and usually onto welfare or social security).........go check the workforce participation numbers, I dare you.

rhhardin said...

Obama is Bill Ayer's apprentice, (Dukas, The sorcerer's apprentice)

LarsPorsena said...

Blogger Rhythm and Balls said...
Every percent unemployment increases 40,000 people die.

Herbert Hoover killed people. Obama decreased the unemployment rate from Bush's recessionary high of over 10% to less than 5%.


White middle-aged expectancy is decreasing.
Something startling is happening to middle-aged white Americans. Unlike every other age group, unlike every other racial and ethnic group, unlike their counterparts in other rich countries, death rates in this group have been rising, not falling.

But, don't believe me. Check it out on the NYT.

tim in vermont said...

Obviously R&B has bought into a lot of Democrat propaganda and there will be no getting him back to reality tonight.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Obviously R&B has bought into a lot of Democrat propaganda and there will be no getting him back to reality tonight.

Lol. Reality = "Republican propaganda"

Jon Ericson said...

@Gahrie:
See? I can get a quarter dose of R&B, plus a rebuttal!
Blood pressure nominal!

MathMom said...

Are these the police who acted stupidly, or the ones that are racist? I lose track.

Rhythm and Balls said...

White middle-aged expectancy is decreasing.

Really? What are they expecting? Lots of babies?

Something startling is happening to middle-aged white Americans.

They're losing privilege?

Unlike every other age group, unlike every other racial and ethnic group, unlike their counterparts in other rich countries, death rates in this group have been rising, not falling.

Then maybe they'll finally wake up to what they've realized in every other country and stop thinking that demeaning the poor and other racial groups will substitute for getting their own issues on the table.

But, don't believe me. Check it out on the NYT.

Oh, I believe it. I just wasn't prepared to entertain what appears to be your insinuation of a conspiracy theory about it.

Jon Ericson said...

Maybe Inga will be by to impersonate me.
Good times, good times.
But what a hangover she must have after last night!

narciso said...

that stat is actually much more subtle, as one researcher pointed out, but it stands to reason if they are the majority, and the economy has chronically substandard in performance, what would the consequences be,

Josephbleau said...

"Herbert Hoover killed people." Ignorant comment, as head of the U.S. Food Administration during World War I and running humanitarian relief efforts in wwI Belgium literally saving hundreds of thousands on women and children without even taking a salary and not doing it crooked and making a fortune for his cronys like a modern democrat would have done. Hoover was one of the 20th centuries greatest humanitarians. He was the first presidential candidate to be villified by his opponent for partisan gain as a sub human by FDR friendly media so he was a trend setter. If you think Hoover is a killer you are a fool.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

I'm just impressed that Obama found out about this today. Usually he doesn't learn of important events until he reads about them in the paper.

Any statements from Hillary today? Was Huma able to wake her from her afternoon nap?

Christopher said...

I sometimes wonder if Obama is aware just how much the law enforcement community hates him.

Oh, the political appointees will kiss his ass but the rank and file absolutely despise him.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Good point, Josephbleau. It was Cal "Do nothing" Coolidge who killed them.

narciso said...

he doesn't know anything, does he,

http://www.ur.umich.edu/0910/Oct05_09/19.php

Hagar said...

Herbert Hoover, "the Wonder Boy," was the world's leading do-gooder.
Franklin Roosevelt ran on a platform of economy in government and balancing the budget, then, once in office, did a one-eighty and adopted Hoover's recommendations to govern with.

narciso said...

just some guys from the neighborhood,

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-02-18/entertainment/ct-books-0219-black-stones-20110218_1_el-rukn-stones-jeff-fort

Hagar said...

lso wrong. Coolidge was president during the boom years of the twenties.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Is narciso saying that the Great Depression was good?

Rhythm and Balls said...

Coolidge was president during the bubble years of the twenties.

FTFY.

JAORE said...

Should have heard that speech after the killing of the two NY cops. SHould have repeated the message every time there were chants about killing cops (oh how racist and extreme the Tea Party, remember?). Should have tossed Sharpton to the curb instead of inviting him back into the White House. Should have said, after his meeting with BLM that they needed to purge the hateful element of their movement and make forceful comments about cops protecting everyone. Should have told the DOJ to quit jumping into every conflict and using RAYYYYCIST as a default position.

Today? Too little, WAY too late.

He's just reacting to the overwhelmingly negative reaction to the actions he helped begin and helped keep moving.

Big Mike said...

Reality = "Republican propaganda"

I'm trying to imagine someone so lacking in sentience, not to mention self-awareness, that he would type that.

Franciscan said...

Jon Ericson the little ugly troll sees Ingas everywhere. Does she/ he haunt your every waking moment, your dreams? Powerful. Oooooo.

n.n said...

Rule of law, no. Obama is Pro-Choice.

Civilized society, no. Obama is a [class] diversity monger, pro-abortion, pro-Planned Parenthood, selective exclusion, anti-native policies, progressive debt (i.e. misalignment between debt and wealth), progressive wars, etc.

Obama is a bitter clinger to the old ways.

Darrell said...

BLM was astroturfed by George Soros and the Demoratic Party. That's what the indictment will say.

Henry1944 said...

The police union of Cleveland is asking to have the open carry law suspended temporarily. Smart move.

""We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something -- I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, told CNN. "They can fight about it after the RNC or they can lift it after the RNC, but I want him to absolutely outlaw open-carry in Cuyahoga County until this RNC is over.""

Jon Ericson said...

Jon Ericson the little ugly troll sees Ingas everywhere. Does she/ he haunt your every waking moment, your dreams? Powerful. Oooooo.

See

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/07/im-here-today-to-introduce-my-partner.html?commentPage=2

Starting @ 2:39

With your "Powerful. Oooooo." you sound just like her.
Maybe you are her "Fransiscan Profile not found".

Sugartits.

Unknown said...

Chuck,

In twenty-five words or less, what are my intentions?

To defeat the nominee of the Republican Party.

Unknown said...

Oh, I had 17 words left. Please assume they were all accurate remarks about your mother.

Henry1944 said...

Jon Ericson, no one cares. Give it a rest. Don't you have anything to add to the conversation or are you here to start verbal tit for tats with everyone you suspect of being someone else. It's boring as hell.

Now what do you think about the Cleveland police union wanting to suspend the open carry law temporarily? Do you think it's a good idea Jon?

Jon Ericson said...

@"Henry1944 Profile not found"
You have the same pissy attitude of "Franciscan Profile not found"
Are you working across the desk from him/her, or are you the same troll?

Jon Ericson said...

Urban dictionary says:

troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

The free dictionary says:

a. A person who posts inflammatory or otherwise unwanted material on an electronic forum, especially anonymously.
b. The material so posted.

Chuck said...

Unknown said...
Chuck,

In twenty-five words or less, what are my intentions?

To defeat the nominee of the Republican Party.


At various times, I have said that I may vote for Trump myself, and that I would probably vote for Trump. And at other times, I have remarked that I've never supported a Democrat. And that I think a Clinton presidency could do 30 years' of irreversible, catastrophic damage to the U.S. Supreme Court.

You still confident in telling me what m own intentions are?


Jon Ericson said...

Now what do you think about the Cleveland police union wanting to suspend the open carry law temporarily? Do you think it's a good idea Jon?

Sounds like a slippery slope, troll.

SGT Ted said...

Captain Bullshit has spoken.

FullMoon said...

With the Dallas shootings, 31 law enforcement officers have died in the line of duty so far this year, compared with 18 officers who had died at this point in 2015, according the statistics from the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

Nick Breul, director of research for the memorial fund and a former Washington, D.C., police officer, said that there have also been a number of surprise attacks targeting and killing police officers.
Marine Corps veteran identified as suspect in fatal shooting of three police officers in Baton Rouge
Marine Corps veteran identified as suspect in fatal shooting of three police officers in Baton Rouge

“As we see increases, it becomes very concerning, particularly when you see increases in the cases of the nature of Dallas,” Breul said.

“Certainly there is a climate now -- and the Dallas case indicates that there is a climate now -- that certainly should have police on guard,” he added.

Unknown said...

Now what do you think about the Cleveland police union wanting to suspend the open carry law temporarily? Do you think it's a good idea Jon?
7/17/16, 10:05 PM

No. Call off your dogs.

Unknown said...

You still confident in telling me what m own intentions are?

Yeah, Chuck, I am. You are either lying or stupid. For face saving purposes we could let you plead temporary insanity.

You say all that, but objectively your EVERY SINGLE POST* comprises snide, lowbrow, often passive-aggressive attacks on the candidate of the Republican Party.

Do you not perceive that? Really?

Who GAF who you vote for, which is unverifiable, if you suppress ten other votes with your clack?

Get onside or STFU. Or defect. What part of that don't you fucking get, Lawyer Man?

Henry1944 said...

It appears the troll doesn't have the mental acuity to answer a simple question, but prefers to bring the IQ of the thread down to his level.

At least Unknown answered the question. So who are my "dogs"?

Unknown said...

* Maybe I missed one. You might have neglected to include a little dig in some thread about the weather or Zeus. Like I forgot to add this footnote in the comment above.

Jon Ericson said...

@FullMoon
Real subtle there, Mentioning the Marine Corps TWICE.

Jon Ericson said...

Can't read?
Soros dogs, troll

Unknown said...

His storm troopers are spiraling out of control. You can't instigate police hate for 8 years and expect to walk it back with a speech. Or maybe he actually thinks he can.

Jon Ericson said...

What a coincidence, R&B has taken a break.

Henry1944 said...

Pathetic, A Trump troll dressed up as My Little Pony with commenting skills on the level of the little girls who play with them. Bargain basement trollery.

Unknown said...

Henry1944,

I think you know. Their name is legion. 'Twere invidious to particularize.

You know how Cruz made an ad that said that if immigrants were jumping the border to take the jobs of legislators and hedge fund managers, that illegal immigration would be quickly and effectively halted? Or the commonplace that if they would all be reliable Republican voters, the Border would be quickly secured?

Rather than me identify them, I'd rather you do it. I know you can, it's very easy, Let Me Explain how.

Just assume that every single act of violence against the GOP convention at Cleveland will cost the Democratic Party a hundred thousand votes in November. Not every demonstration, every rock or punch or turd thrown at every demonstration, will be a hundred thousand votes to the GOP.

Those dogs.

Whatever dogs you got that bite, muzzle them or keep them in the cages.

Or don't. Maybe you think the media can cover you.

Jon Ericson said...

That's a Skittles shitting rainbow unicorn, troll

Unknown said...

Do you understand me, Henry1944, or do I need to mansplain it to you further?

Unknown said...

Mmm, I LOVE Skittles!

EMD said...

"Making him a 1-term president as priority #1? "

Don't all opposition parties basically seek to do such a thing?

Jon Ericson said...

Makes for a good Purple Drank!

Unknown said...

Point is that there is no spontaneous popular outburst of outrage at the GOP. You turn it on and off like a faucet. I am speaking against interest when I suggest that you turn it off, but you asked, so I'm answering, just so you can't say that nobody explained this to you.

Henry1944 said...

I own no human dogs. Who do you think I am that I have any pull with BLM, the Democratic Party, or whoever you think has unleashed their "dogs"? As for the police union asking to have a suspension of the open carry law temporarily, it is an excellent idea and could save lives. Why do you think the union wants to suspend the law? For the hell of it? They obviously think it will be of benefit to their police union members.

Unknown said...

Jon,

Please keep your f****** dextromorphan and guaifenesin out of my Skittles. Please. Arizona watermelon is fine, on the side. But don't be messing with my unicorn poop. NyQuil is for doping your ditch weed.

Jon Ericson said...

We know you have no pull, you are led.

Henry1944 said...

Sad commentary on the quality of commenter on this thread tonight. The rainbow pony is not even inspired, it's simply stupid.

Jon Ericson said...

Stay fetal, Cleveland Coppers.

Jon Ericson said...

Tool.

Jon Ericson said...

Sad commentary on the quality of commenter on this thread tonight.
Irony.

Unknown said...

Please, Henry, keep playing innocent (or is it dumb). Go on, I like it. No, I think you'll know what to do.

-- Your side, Henry, not you. Please don't be an ass. If you are an ass I won't talk to you anymore. And no b******* about dogs and dehumanizing, please. I can't be bothered. --

Everybody knows that all the trouble will come from your side. Don't worry about false flags, we're not that smart or evil. Just enforce party discipline. You really have nothing to gain from riots and little tow-headed girls with their faces running with blood.

I wonder if you can help yourselves, maybe the bloodlust of your rabble is too great. That would be easy to understand. But I think somehow you'll manage it. Just close the checkbook.

Hey, you could certainly miss a few, it happens. Then you would only lose a few hundred thousand votes. But I wouldn't let it get out of hand.

Please, ignore me.

Original Mike said...

President Barack Obama: "These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no cause."

They advanced your cause, Mr. President. At least they did until things got out of control. But now you want out.

Jon Ericson said...

I can't wait around for the trolls to get their skittles together,
Nytall

M.A.G.

Skittles shitting rainbow unicorn , over and out.

*static*

Drago said...

Original Mike: "They advanced your cause, Mr. President. At least they did until things got out of control. But now you want out."

The leftist mob.

Always incoherent and unruly (see the comments on this thread)and once unleashed are difficult to cage.

Who can forget OWS types raping women and defecating on police cars? You know, for the little people!

Tim said...

Obama is a racist asshole. See his entire (known) history. His hidden history is likely worse.

Freeman Hunt said...

That's a good bit of speech.

cubanbob said...

Nice words from the President. Too bad after seven and a half years everything he says that should be taken at face value sounds so fake and contrived. Heck of a job Barry.

Incidentally doesn't this latest shooter have ties to the Nation Of Islam and BLM?

David said...

Worst comment thread ever? In the running for sure.

Terry said...

After seven years of Obama, I hope that all Americans can agree that affirmative action university admissions policies can have terrible effects outside of academia.

Jon Ericson said...

@David:
It will be way worse, today, Monday, around noon.

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MaxedOutMama said...

Too bad he couldn't have said this clearly at the Dallas funeral.

BDNYC said...

Killer just went too far by killing a black cop.

sdharms said...

quotes from the guy who started the fire.

tim in vermont said...

I turn him off if he comes on the TV,don't read what he has to say, he is a liar. Or maybe just so stupid he can't see the truth, like there was no way you were gonna be able to keep your plan.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I don't see how this sort of speechifying makes much of a difference. Is there really even one person out there who says: "Gee. I was just about to go snipe a bunch of cops but now the president has persuaded me that I shouldn't do that."

What's in it for the president is to look like a leader.

That trickles down to the media, providing it with the raw material it then turns into finished product for sale, that being something to gossip about.

Rusty said...

Since he's lied to us so many times I look at his public musings as so much dog and pony show propaganda for the true believers. IE; the usual suspects.

Humperdink said...

Obama sure is leaving office with a bang, is he not?

Rusty said...

Blogger Humperdink said...
Obama sure is leaving office with a bang, is he not?

Fundamentally transformed.

damikesc said...

He asked the Republicans to offer their own health care reform.

...which the Democrats refused to listen to. And which he publicly claimed, before passing, that they never did then, after it passed, admitted that they had some good ideas. That were ignored, natch.

They refused. Nope, nope, nope.

And you bought the lie.

He asked how they would help with the economy - the same way they did for Bush. Nope, nope, nope.

Offered ideas for that, too. Dems locked amendments out of bills as well. The Republicans big Congressional mistake was allowing Dems to offer amendments to bills when Dems won't do the same for them when Dems have power.

Herbert Hoover killed people. Obama decreased the unemployment rate from Bush's recessionary high of over 10% to less than 5%.

Yet workforce participation is at epic lows. If participation today was at levels when Bush was in office, unemployment would still be above 9%.

I'll ask a simple question: In what world is an economy "healthy" when interest rates still hover around 0 after about 7 years and the Fed knows raising them will destroy the economy?

Then maybe they'll finally wake up to what they've realized in every other country and stop thinking that demeaning the poor and other racial groups will substitute for getting their own issues on the table.

They deserve to die. Got it. Nice to know where you stand.

Hoover was one of the 20th centuries greatest humanitarians.

He was just a God awful President. Who was castigated as spending way too much money by FDR.

It was Cal "Do nothing" Coolidge who killed them.

If Coolidge ran in 1928, the Depression would've been done in less than 2 years. FDR, though, did an admirable job keeping in running for his entire Presidency and directing aid to areas that were politically advantageous and not based on actual need.

FDR killed untold millions of people through his horrid policies.

Coolidge was president during the bubble years of the twenties.

Shall we revisit the economic "successes" of Clinton?

As far as the speech, might have been great. Dunno. I don't listen to Obama speeches anymore. I've heard enough, personally.

Freder Frederson said...

It will be way worse, today, Monday, around noon.

I have been commenting on this blog a lot longer than you. Just because I don't care to share the details of my life with Google doesn't make me some kind of nefarious agent of the DNC.

So, as you would put it, f*** you.

Nichevo said...

No, Fredo, you're a known asshole.

But smart! Not dumb like everybody says!

Amadeus 48 said...

"These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one."--highlighted by our hostess.

Is he saying that if these attackers spoke for someone, it would be OK?

Obama has become a lunatic.

mtrobertslaw said...

Last night on CNN Sheriff Clarke eviscerated Don Lemon for his defense of BLM. Never seen anything like it. Check it out.

JAORE said...

"Last night on CNN Sheriff Clarke eviscerated Don Lemon for his defense of BLM. Never seen anything like it. Check it "

And alpha male versus a commentator. Lemon uses phrases like I "not necessarily support...".

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

Ahhhhhhhh. The latest from Obama: things would be better if police would admit their failures.

About citizens admitting failure to comply with instructions from law enforcement, initiating physical violence, not so much said.

Bruce Hayden said...

Freder has a point. He has been around for a number of years. I think I was here before him, but not absolutely sure. Sometimes we see him a lot. Sometimes not. Another long term leftist here is Robert Cook. Maybe not quite as long, but a long time. Things start to blur together after awhile. Both are good faith leftists. They just see life through different lenses than I do. Both are part of why this has been a good place to go over the years. Shilo may be immature and occasionally seem brain dead, but I think he has been around for maybe a year. R&B is maybe a mid termer. Longer than Shilo, but more recent than Freder and Cook. The rest in the list - likely paid Crooked Hillary shills.

mikee said...

Charles Manson was the last person of any note to try and start a race war in the US, with his "Helter Skelter" murders. Of course, he was a drug-addled lunatic, and his plans failed to reach any real fruition (although Squeaky Fromme might have killed President Ford if she'd known how to use a 1911).

President Obama has been much more successful in his efforts to instigate racial discord. But then again, Obama has the entire federal government to misuse and half the country already stupid enough to believe his Big Lies, so I'd expect such success compared to Manson.

Overall, though, both certainly deserve being put in a small cell where they can't cause anyone trouble, for the rest of their lives, and we'd be much better off as a nation had both been treated that way.

Fernandinande said...

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