June 18, 2015

Dylann Storm Roof.



"The gunman wanted in the killing of nine people at a prayer meeting at a historic black church in this city’s downtown area was taken into custody Thursday morning in North Carolina."
Mr. Roof’s Facebook profile picture shows him wearing a jacket decorated with the flags of two former white supremacist regimes, in apartheid-era South Africa and in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe....

“I have to do it,” the gunman was quoted as saying. “You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.”
The link goes to the NYT where the top-rated comment — with 2,427 up-votes — sets out a bullet-point list of possible reasons why this happened:
• Hysterical, paranoid gun culture enabled by states trying to outdo each other with permissiveness

• Hysterical, hate-mongering right-wing TV "news," talk show hosts, web sites

• Foaming-at-the-mouth incitements to racism

• Continued un- and underemployment

235 comments:

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tim in vermont said...
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tim in vermont said...

I agree with machine that the guy was crazy as a bedbug. Deluded, probably psychotic. He should probably be executed for the safety of the rest of us, but nooooo....

These same people blaming conservatives for this will, in ten years, be working to get him out of prison.

Rusty said...


Their endless, nauseating obsession with talking about how black people should behave would be a start.


Wouldn't you agree that civilized people should act in a civilized manner?

Rusty said...

machine said...
Yeehaw! We's takin our kuntry back!


That's what I like about you, machine. This forum is never in any danger of you contributing anything intelligent.
Keep it up.

MayBee said...

We need to get the word out that this race war isn't going to start, you aren't going to make it start, don't try making it start.

AReasonableMan said...

machine said...
Yeehaw! We's takin our kuntry back!!


Back where?

AReasonableMan said...

Big Mike said...
@Fen, I'm with you. The way to deal with ARM is to give him the old horse laugh.


Well that would be a step up from just putting your fingers in your ears and going Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, which is all you have done up until now.

Dr Weevil said...

Will ARM pull his fingers out of his ears (or whatever orifices he has them in) and answer my question from 9:47pm yesterday? Why does he accuse the rest of us of "endless, nauseating obsession with talking about how black people should behave", and give only one example, Rachel Dolezal, who is not black? Doesn't that show we're obsessed with how whites should behave, namely not lying about race, even if doing so will get you a series of well-paid jobs?

AReasonableMan said...

It's a stupid question since the all the comments focused on problems with blacks never with the problems in white communities.

Dr Weevil said...

If it's such a stupid question, why can't ARM answer it? Is Rachel Dolezal an example of the problems of the black community or not? Yes or no? Is ARM too stupid to answer even stupid questions? That's a remarkable level of stupidity. Or is he just barely clever enough to realize that when he can't given an honest answer to an honest question he needs to give a dishonest pseudo-answer to avoid admitting his pathetic incapacity?

AReasonableMan said...

You might want to take breath, you are getting red in the face.

gerry said...

Recent mass murders not in the US, mainly in Europe (you'd think Obama would read more, but of course his philosophy isn't to be bothered by facts):

Behring Anders Breivik killed 75, 2011, Norway
Mohammed Merah killed 7, 2012, France
Genildo Ferreira de França killed 14, 1997, Brazil
Michael Robert Ryan killed 16, 1987, UK
Eric Borel killed 15, 1995, France
Friedrich Leibacher killed 14, 2001,Switzerland
Christian Dornier killed 14, 1989, France
Ljubiša Bogdanović killed 13, 2013, Serbia
Derrick Bird killed 12, 2010, UK
Robert Steinhäuser killed 16, 2002, Germany
Tim Kretschmer killled 15, 2009, Germany
Wellington Menezes de Oliveira killed 12, 2011, Brazil
Bai Ningyang killed 12, 2006, China
Juhani Matti Saari killed 10, 2008, Finland
Huanming Wu killed 9, 2010, China
Ahmed Ibragimov killed 41, 1999, Russia
Ami Popper killed 7, 1990, Israel
Antoní Blažka killed 6, 2013, Czech Republic

Dr Weevil said...

Another bald-faced lie from the unreasonable boy who can't answer a simple question honestly. I wonder if he's paid to comment here. It would explain a lot about his style of pseudo-argumentation.

Big Mike said...

Hey ARM! Is it true you were born triplets and the other two died laughing?

Rusty said...

AReasonableMan said...
It's a stupid question since the all the comments focused on problems with blacks never with the problems in white communities


OK. You start. What don't you like about where you live?

Gahrie said...

It's a stupid question since the all the comments focused on problems with blacks never with the problems in white communities.

Probably because sane White people don't blame all of their problems on Black people.

Dr Weevil said...

Really? "all the comments"? I just scrolled down to the last Dolezal post and read the first 15 comments and found quite a few trashing Dolezal, a couple defending her, one trashing Iron Eyes Cody, and zero (nil, NULL, 0.00 x 10^0 +/- 0.00 x 10^0) on the problems of the black community.

Why does ARM write obvious lies? What's in it for him? Is he paid to do write them?

And what do the problems of my community have to do with anything? The main thing I dislike about where I live is that I have to drive 100+ miles to find an Afghan or Korean restaurant, but could (if I wanted to) find a meth lab within 10 miles and a Klan rally within 30. It might be possible to turn that into some kind of racial complaint, but I'm not even going to try.

chickelit said...

A blog post with a killer's name spelled out sort of glorifies the killer don't you think?

I also think Dylann is a curious portmanteau word of Althouse's obsession with Bob.

chickelit said...

AReasonableMan said...
It's a stupid question since the all the comments focused on problems with blacks never with the problems in white communities.

Oh hush. There's plenty of rich commentary surrounding the subjects of Ann Dunham, Lena Dunham, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Dan Savage, etc., etc., and the problems they create in the white community. Get off your high horse, ARM.

AReasonableMan said...

Gahrie said...
Probably because sane White people don't blame all of their problems on Black people.


You just eliminated a lot of people on this blog from the sane column. I've never come such a bunch of whiners blaming affirmative action and welfare for every evil in the country.

Char Char Binks said...

The wave of '90's church fires was almost entirely the work of blacks trying to inflame hatred for Whitey and collect insurance money. Most of the rest were due to accidental fires or those caused by carelessness. Only a very few were proven to be racially motivated.

AReasonableMan said...

chickelit said...
Get off your high horse


Funny you should bring this up, since that is exactly what I have been saying about all the whites whining about blacks. That white horse ain't so high or so pretty when you take a careful look.

Fernandinande said...
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Fernandinande said...

Laslo Spatula said...
""Althouse" and "black" returns 502,000 results."


No, it's only 214 results.


'Althouse' and 'Laslo' currently returns 207 results

Michael said...

ARM

Your sanctimony is on display on a regular basis but it shines forth on this tragic occasion and is vile and disgusting. You really should be ashamed.

Fernandinande said...

Dr Weevil said...
Another bald-faced lie from the unreasonable boy who can't answer a simple question honestly ...


So why do you read posts from the mammering rump-fed nut-hook?

Dr Weevil said...

Why not? Arguing with ARM may look like beating a dead horse or shooting fish in a barrel, but how do you know you wouldn't enjoy either of those activities immensely? You've never tried them, have you?

More seriously, I think it's important to prevent him from convincing casual readers who may be less wary. At best, arguing with liars and weasels can be the intellectual equivalent of a boar sharpening his tusks on a tree: an unequal contest, but good dental hygiene.

AReasonableMan said...

Weevil you are too stupid and slow to beat anything, other than yourself, of course.

Drago said...

ARMeltdown: " I've never come such a bunch of whiners blaming affirmative action and welfare for every evil in the country."

I'd like to see just one comment from a poster on these boards that blamed "...affirmative action and welfare for every evil in the country."

Just one.

Rusty said...


Dr Weevil said...
"Really? "all the comments"? I just scrolled down to the last Dolezal post and read the first 15 comments and found quite a few trashing Dolezal, a couple defending her, one trashing Iron Eyes Cody, and zero (nil, NULL, 0.00 x 10^0 +/- 0.00 x 10^0) on the problems of the black community.

Why does ARM write obvious lies? What's in it for him? Is he paid to do write them?"


I would think that would be obvious. Because he believes that everything you espouse is a lie. He has been told that conservatism is anathema to everything this country could be.Therefore, when talking to the other, it is permissable to hyperbolize(if thats even a word)

Dr Weevil said...

If I'm so slow and stupid, how come you can't refute my 9:56am argument, ARM? Are you even slower and stupider than I am? I checked your allegation that we write about nothing else except the problems of the black community, came up with 0-for-15 looking in the very place you suggested looking (Dolezal threads) and didn't bother looking further because QED. So where's the evidence for this 'obsession'? In your tiny little mind? Or just in your talking points?

mikee said...

Odd that among the NYT commenters the top item regarding causes of mass shootings wasn't the one verified by criminology studies: publicity and celebrity status of the offender.

Rick said...

Dr Weevil said...
If I'm so slow and stupid, how come you can't refute my 9:56am argument,


Why would you expect him to? He's only here to piss on people. Making rational counterarguments treats his positions with a respect he doesn't offer in return. Which is why the only rational response is to piss back on him.

Gahrie said...

You just eliminated a lot of people on this blog from the sane column. I've never come such a bunch of whiners blaming affirmative action and welfare for every evil in the country.

My, what a racist statement!

Why do you immediately think of Black people when someone mentions Affirmative Action? Affirmative Action actually helps White women more than it does Black people.

Why do you associate welfare with Black people? There are actually more White people on welfare than Black people.

I denounce you bigot!

When i see Affirmative Action and welfare, my first thought is "government".

tim in vermont said...

Kid said he wanted to start a "race war" and here comes ARM willing and eager to do his part.

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