June 15, 2013

"The Government has agreed to let Facebook and other web companies publish some details about the number of surveillance requests it has received."

"Facebook has already posted their numbers. For the last six months of 2012, it received between 9,000 and 10,000 requests for user data pertaining to 18,000 to 19,000 of user accounts. This includes requests from all government entities in the U.S. (local, state, and federal, and including criminal and national security-related requests)...."

31 comments:

pm317 said...

9,000 and 10,000 requests for user data pertaining to 18,000 to 19,000 of user accounts

Were they Teaparty people?

edutcher said...

That's white of them, as it were.

X said...

good ol' prior restraint

Bob Ellison said...

"The Government has agreed to let"?!

I hope someone involved in this article is naïve.

kentuckyliz said...

How do I find out if MY information was furnished to the gummint?

Message to NSA: kiss my fat white ass.

pm317 said...

So why would anybody have a Facebook account?

pm317 said...

@kentuckyliz

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yeah, this information is useless unless we know whose accounts they were. In fact Facebook and Google thinks if they put out this kind of information, they will be spared the wrath but it jus raises more questions.

elkh1 said...

Protest their violations of your privacy, drop Facebook, use more of Twitter, the little guy who said "no, not without warrants" to Big Govt.

To business owners, don't let cloud computing fool you. Don't use them. You share servers with other users. Because of their vendetta on one of the users or a "rogue" agent directed by some big shots in Washington decides on a little phishing expedition, the Fed can seize the servers with your operation in them. They will ruin you. You are better off using calculators and paper ledgers to run your business.

pm317 said...

Protest their violations of your privacy, drop Facebook,

Yes, privacy but goes beyond that. They are colluding with the Democratic party and this government -- they have not been shy about revealing their politics.

elkh1 said...

pm317 said...
"9,000 and 10,000 requests for user data pertaining to 18,000 to 19,000 of user accounts

Were they Teaparty people?"

May be, info is classified. But everyone knows Tea Partiers are really anti-govt terrorists. 19000 users are a tiny fraction of the millions potential terrorists named in Fed's databases, 3000 of the data bases were untraceable, locations unknown.

19000 from Facebook, 19000 from Google, 19000 from MSN,... everyone from Verizon... Funny how fast things add up.

Pssst, hear the terrorists hiding under your bed, inside your walls? Oh, that fly buzzing around is really a drone tracking you... one wrong move...

elkh1 said...

kentuckyliz said...
"How do I find out if MY information was furnished to the gummint?"

What is to find out? Default: yes.

Hope and Change: a nation of hopeful "free" citizens are changed into a nation of paranoiac serfs. Remarkable change.

Haven't they said the terrorists attacked us because they didn't like our way of life?

Well, Osama won.

jr565 said...

A lot of these requests though weren't even NSA probes. Meaning, they were the general law enforcement inquiries that law enforcement does.

jr565 said...

elkh1 wrote
Pssst, hear the terrorists hiding under your bed, inside your walls? Oh, that fly buzzing around is really a drone tracking you... one wrong move...

Terrorism is a real thing. And don't you forget it. Just a few months ago we were discussing the Marathon Bombers and how we needed to do someting about them so that they didn't set off a bomb, since of course WE WERE WARNED.

Just because you aren't fond of a particular program shoudln't make you suggest that terorrism is a monster hiding under your bed.

But now we see where you're coming from.

Nonapod said...

Well I'm not a reporter for CBS or Fox News so I guess I'm good.

Larry J said...

"9,000 and 10,000 requests for user data pertaining to 18,000 to 19,000 of user accounts"

Is the number of user accounts the total or the amount for each request? Is it 19,000 or 190,000,000?

Chip S. said...

jr565 said...
But now we see where you're coming from.

Keeping a little list?

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

jr565 said... A lot of these requests though weren't even NSA probes. Meaning, they were the general law enforcement inquiries that law enforcement does.

6/15/13, 11:20 AM

The number of requests doesn't matter. Look at the requests for phone records. For years they said relax the number of requests are going down every year. Then we find out that just one request can net millions of records.

J Smith said...

how do you tell when the govt and their business parteners lie?
they issue a press release

MayBee said...

How did the Feds find the ricin Elvis guy (who was innocent)? How did they know his Facebook postings?

MayBee said...

Remember when Google Maps gave the wrong directions in DC the weekend of a huge tea party rally?

Darcy said...

And we believe Facebook's numbers, why?

Chip S. said...

And we believe Facebook's numbers, why?

As long as you've added OFA to your friends list, you have nothing to worry about.

And if you haven't done that, Mark Zuckerberg wants to know why you hate America.

Darcy said...

@Chip S.

You get me.

Chip S. said...

great minds...

edutcher said...

kentuckyliz said...

How do I find out if MY information was furnished to the gummint?

Is the Pope Catholic?

pm317 said...

Paul Gigot and his panel concluded that we need NSA surveillance because there is nothing else to keep us safe. OK then.

Chip S. said...

Paul Gigot and his panel concluded that we need NSA surveillance because there is nothing else to keep us safe. OK then.

I suppose we should be glad that nobody's yet decided that nothing short of sheltering in place will keep us safe.

Phil 3:14 said...

But fortunately Facebook has a new security feature called the "Fan Page Verification Program". You simply need to click a link and choose a ten digit security code to complete the process. That saved me from having my Page suspended on May 30, 2013.

Phil 3:14 said...

and this is why I never respond to Farmville requests.

elkh1 said...

jr565 said...
"Terrorism is a real thing. And don't you forget it. Just a few months ago we were discussing the Marathon Bombers and how we needed to do someting about them so that they didn't set off a bomb, since of course WE WERE WARNED."

Don't you forget after spending hundreds of billions of our money, drag netted billions of phone records each day, they missed a known terrorist who was free to travel in and out of the country because someone misspelled his damned name. Then used their failure to expand their dragnet for more records of law abiding citizens.

Like gun control. They can't stop the criminals, they control law abiding citizens.

It's so damned easy to gull the gullible.

Hitler killed the Jews who preyed on innocent Germans, Mao purged the reactionaries who were a threat to the people's revolution. Americans junked their Constitutional rights for fear of the adherents of the Religion of Peace.

Osama won.

Revenant said...

This is meaningless, since we have no way of knowing what releases of data the government actually authorized -- i.e., there could have been any number of requests that are still covered by the disclosure ban.