May 15, 2013

"IRS approved liberal groups while Tea Party in limbo."

Greg Korte in USA Today today:
In February 2010, the Champaign Tea Party in Illinois received approval of its tax-exempt status from the IRS in 90 days, no questions asked. That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months.

In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows. As applications from conservative groups sat in limbo, groups with liberal-sounding names had their applications approved in as little as nine months. With names including words like "Progress" or "Progressive," the liberal groups applied for the same tax status and were engaged in the same kinds of activities as the conservative groups.
Examples at the link.

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Matthew Sablan said...

Well, there goes the last leg of the "It was solely because they were 501c4s" argument. Oh well, this is just small potatoes.

The Drill SGT said...

I saw a story last night that the Division Director, Lois Lerner made a point to walk the application for the charity run by Obama's half-brother through the process and backdated the tax exemtion date

The Drill SGT said...

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/14/irs-official-lerner-approved-exemption-for-obama-brothers-charity/

Lois Lerner, the senior IRS official at the center of the decision to target tea party groups for burdensome tax scrutiny, signed paperwork granting tax-exempt status to the Barack H. Obama Foundation, a shady charity headed by the president’s half-brother that operated illegally for years.

According to the organization’s filings, Lerner approved the foundation’s tax status within a month of filing, an unprecedented timeline that stands in stark contrast to conservative organizations that have been waiting for more than three years, in some cases, for approval.

Lerner also appears to have broken with the norms of tax-exemption approval by granting retroactive tax-exempt status to Malik Obama’s organization,

Scott M said...

The best MIP on Sirius radio's LEFT (ie, liberal talk radio) channel could come up with was "Bush did it too" and that there was no uproar back then.

I haven't reviewed any of the info they cited yet, though I used the Catch app to record it. In any case, there was no recognition of how wrong it is, just that it's business as usual and we're still racists for point it out.

Of course, this is the crew that believes we dropped nukes on Japan and not Germany because German is full of white people.

Deirdre Mundy said...

Why is anyone surprised? Obama and his cronies learned politics in Chicago-- you know, the place where you have a better chance escaping a lengthy jail term as a murderer than you do as a governor?

IRS, Benghazi, AP, and the Sebalius extortion... they're all just S.O.P in Chicago, except at a national level.

We elected a machine politician to the White House. So we get nationwide machine politics.

Don;t worry though. Obama won;t go to jail. He's learned from the Daleys. He'll keep plausible deniability...

AprilApple said...

Progressive: Radical leftwing extremist who operates outside of the law.

Were these Progressive IRS agents?
Or were these agents forced, through threats of blackmail, by the Obama regime to carry out their tyrannical wishes?

virgil xenophon said...

And the point is?

As if anyone should be surprised..

There is NO underhanded trick lefties will not stoop to, their highly moral ends justifying any means to defeat evil conservatives..

As Thomas Sowell so succinctly put it: "The Vision of the Anointed"..

AJ Lynch said...

The IRS employees, who were likely libruls, were surely trying to preserve their role in big guvmint. Ironically, their actions may have hastened the demise of their jobs if we end up with a flat tax or national sales tax.

garage mahal said...

Sorry, off topic:

One of those groups, Emerge America, saw its tax-exempt status denied, forcing it to disclose its donors and pay some taxes. None of the Republican groups have said their applications were rejected.

Progress Texas, another of the organizations, faced the same lines of questioning as the Tea Party groups from the same IRS office that issued letters to the Republican-friendly applicants. A third group, Clean Elections Texas, which supports public funding of campaigns, also received IRS inquiries.
Link.

Seeing Red said...

First they came for the Tea Partiers and I (Dana) said nothing.

virgil xenophon said...

PS: SELF-anointed,
I might add, God being pretty much absent from the lefty calculus..

Seeing Red said...

It's Texas. You expect a Midwesterner to be nuanced?

Drago said...

phx is going to have see a little more "data" and "work" and "background info" and "research" and "wait for the investigations to be complete" and "make sure only credible sources are cited" and "have the information made available in an easy to consume format" and "at an hour when he/she is available" in order to actually comment substantively.

LOL

Matthew Sablan said...

Garage: Several groups did withdraw their applications or have yet to receive an approval or denial (hence, limbo.) Chilling free speech is -bad.-

AprilApple said...

I suspect the IRS agents were forced to do it. Maybe they were perfect targets because they themselves are progressives, and hey - no problem! Or perhaps not. Perhaps the long tentacle of the win-at-all-costs Obama administration had something to do with it.

As we see with the Benghazi testimony - anyone who dare speak out against Obama and Hillary or anyone in the Obama administration is told "How dare you!", demoted, accused as hostile or "partisan", and cast into the pit.

Colonel Angus said...

In any case, there was no recognition of how wrong it is, just that it's business as usual and we're still racists for point it out.

This is why I believe the country is polarized beyond hope. Most of the leftwing commentaty I've read by and large thinks that not only was there anything wrong with this but the IRS was justified.in doing so. It was wrong if it occurred under Bush and its wrong now. But liberals being nothing more than closet authoritarians simply don't care and think such activity is justified as long as they are in charge.

Sad state of affairs the 'progressive' have turned this nation in.

Drago said...

Angus: "But liberals being nothing more than closet authoritarians simply don't care and think such activity is justified as long as they are in charge"

Fen's Law again.

As always.

Sorun said...

This has got to hurt Obamacare. Who are we going to trust to fairly enforce that -- the IRS?

garage mahal said...

Chilling free speech is -bad.-

No conservative groups were denied, yet liberal groups were. Whose free speech is being chilled?

Fr Martin Fox said...

A little advice to the progressives who are feeling cross about all this and struggling to defend this administration:

Don't make the mistake of a lot of my right-wing friends during the Bush Administration.

They went all-in, defending anything and everything, at the expense of good sense and principle. They still aren't free of the hangover. Many still won't admit they took it too far, although some do; it can just be that hard to admit you were wrong.

Don't go all in for Obama. He's just a politician.

edutcher said...

A scandal a day.

The hits just keep on coming.

Seeing Red said...

The government is simply too big for President Obama to keep track of all the wrongdoing taking place on his watch, his former senior adviser, David Axelrod, told MSNBC. “Part of being president is there’s so much beneath you that you can’t know because the government is so vast,” he explained.



They're trotting this out again?

It's only too big when they run it & can't rule.

If it's too big, then time to start cutting!

Matthew Sablan said...

"No conservative groups were denied, yet liberal groups were. Whose free speech is being chilled?"

-- You really don't understand what is happening, do you? Conservative groups were pulled aside for additional scrutiny; the IRS has admitted that information that was asked from them was illegal and unethical.

That one liberal group happens to have been denied says nothing about the pattern of behavior.

Seeing Red said...

No conservative groups were denied, nope, just sat on for a couple of years.


LOLOLOLOL

B said...

Drago said...phx is going to have see a little more "data" and "work" and "background info" and "research"...in order to actually comment substantively.

No. He'd still substantially and exhaustively comment. As always. He just wouldn't take any personal responsibility for his positions. As always.

m stone said...

The (IG) report concluded that “ineffective management” allowed the inappropriate criteria to be developed and kept in place for more than 18 months.

Conveniently just before an election.

This may be well-designed political maneuvering to delay approvals to affect the vote. Throw in a couple of liberal organizations for cover.

Let the investigations begin!

Colonel Angus said...

Part of being president is there’s so much beneath you that you can’t know because the government is so vast,” he explained.

Yet these idiots want to grow it even more. It must be said that when a guy like Axelrod is using the government is too big defense as to why Obama is clueless, liberals can't even appreciate how stupid they sound. Lucky for them they have an equally stupid constituency to keep voting for them.

Cedarford said...

The news that NO conservative group got processed for 27 months while scads of liberal groups were processed, nationwide, puts to bed the idea this was only "a few poorly managed, misguided IRS agents in a small Cincinnati IRS branch office.

The agents were not misguided. They were guided.
Nationwide, not just in a corner office in Cincinnati.

Guided by who?

Perhaps guided is the incorrect word.
They were ordered.
Ordered by higher-ups.
And likely told if any concerns were raised that they had nothing to worry about, it came from high on up in DC, and they were just implimenting policy.

Matthew Sablan said...

"As with the Tea Party groups, the IRS sought copies of promotional materials, backgrounds of officers, meeting minutes and specifics about activities, such as get-out-the-vote drives, that the organization said it would conduct."

-- Did it ask them for family members information, private social media posts and other such information? The article -says- it is the same, but leaves out the things that would make it the same. Note: The IRS asked for information about family members -unrelated to the actual group being looked into.-

Beorn said...

Oh the irony, that the most ardent advocate for larger government is also one of the least capable of administering it.

Jay said...

Lois Lerner is a Democrat.

Democrats think this type of thing is just fine.

So shut up.

Seeing Red said...

It keeps getting better & better:

The U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the Obama Administration’s decision to deny asylum to a German homeschooling family.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

No conservative groups were denied, yet liberal groups were


Really?

Which liberal groups were denied?

How about the conservative groups who gave up, do they count?

Oh, and given you came here the other day to suggest that the FBI spied on anti-war groups because they were anti-war, which was a lie, why would anyone give your claims credibility today?

Seeing Red said...

BELCHERTOWN (CBS) – Shortly after midnight Tuesday, seven people were caught trespassing at the Quabbin Reservoir.

State Police say the five men and two women are from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Singapore, and “cited their education and career interests” for being in the area. The men told police they were chemical engineers and recent college graduates.

sydney said...

Look what they did to this woman.. The IRS abuse goes much farther than holding up and leaking some applications. They were trying to actively silence free speech of individuals, too. The bastards.

Drago said...

Beorn said..."Oh the irony, that the most ardent advocate for larger government is also one of the least capable of administering it."

I disagree.

It's being administered precisely how Obama wants it administered.

That's the problem.

Seeing Red said...

I'd love to pop some popcorn, but I'm putting it into my $4+++ gal gas.

We have relatives in Texas, they're paying $1 less.

AprilApple said...

RS Approved Liberal Groups
while Tea Party in limbo


WASHINGTON -- In February 2010, the Champaign Tea Party in Illinois received approval of its tax-exempt status from the IRS in 90 days, no questions asked.

That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months.

In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows


Seeing Red said...

IRS official Lerner speedily approved exemption for Obama brother’s ‘charity’

Drago said...

Jay: "Oh, and given you came here the other day to suggest that the FBI spied on anti-war groups because they were anti-war, which was a lie, why would anyone give your claims credibility today?"

We are all still waiting for garage to define "credible" when he demands links from "credible sources".

It's almost like garage just writes things without any thought.

The sad part is that he probably thinks he's writing with a great deal of thought.

Seeing Red said...

NBC: W.H. Blaming Treasury Dept. for IRS Scandal


Jarrett's head should roll, she seems incompetent.

Drago said...

Wait until the hearings into what was happening at the EPA begin in earnest.

Same deal, different department.

Marshal said...

garage mahal said...
Chilling free speech is -bad.-

No conservative groups were denied, yet liberal groups were. Whose free speech is being chilled?


There is literally no evidence this denial was wrongly determined based on current law, nor is there any evidence they were targeted for their political positions. So in garage's desperate desire to distract he's managed to miss both of the objectionable facts. I'd like to claim surprise, but let's be serious. Garage is incapable of principled arguments.

Beorn said...

@Drago

I hope you're wrong. Otherwise garage will have a lot of 'splaining to do

Jay said...

Just SOP at the IRS:

The IRS targeting of conservative groups is far broader than first reported, with nearly 500 organizations singled out for additional scrutiny, according to two lawmakers briefed by the agency.

IRS officials claimed on Friday that roughly 300 groups received additional scrutiny. Reps. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said Tuesday that the number has actually risen to 471. Further, they said it is “unclear” whether Tea Party and other conservative groups are being targeted to this day


Nice Democrats, those IRS agents.

B said...

Matthew Sablan said....-- You really don't understand what is happening, do you?

Of course he does. You don't consign yourself to being perceived as a partisan shill for dismissing any downside to your party - no matter what the impact on trust in the social contract between citizen and government is - without understanding and embracing the stakes.

You want good fishing conversation, garage is your man. Garage is your go to guy when you want a hind tit sucking democrat/union apologist too.

This is a quandary for me since I always try to see redeeming qualities in someone who also appreciates Labradors and fishing but damned if garage doesn't make that a challenge.

Seeing Red said...

...The thrust of the new It Takes A Village program is clearly providing more government coordination in disasters. "The project," said CDC, "is intended to improve community preparedness and response and to strengthen resiliency, which will reduce injury related morbidity and mortality in public health emergencies and strengthen community and national recovery in the aftermath...."

AprilApple said...

Did the White House Try to Get a conservative Columnist Canned?


Obama: Stop worrying about tyranny!

garage mahal said...

Which liberal groups were denied?

I posted and linked to it.

Brennan said...

We elected a machine politician to the White House. So we get nationwide machine politics.

The DC press won't talk about this.

I've never heard David Gregory ask Barack Obama or David Axelrod about how Mr. Obama unseals sealed records in order to win his elections. That's a pillar of Chicago machine politics, but you can never get the DC press to ask about it.

ricpic said...

As Rush says, all deliberate and all part of the warfare on its "enemies" that the Left immediately puts in high gear when it gains power.

William said...

More should be made of Obama's joke about conducting audits on his enemies. It wasn't a directive to the IRS, but it certainly established an atmosphere of permission. He caught more flak for commenting on the good looks of the California attorney general. Maybe rightly so. If the President can make such comments, it gives others permission to comment on the file clerk's high perky tits in their own workplace. These IRS audits happened not because the President ordered them but because the President wanted them.

Matthew Sablan said...

Garage: But were they denied -because they were liberal?- That's the key. The conservative groups suffered view point discrimination; the liberal ones, for all we know, had bad bookkeeping with money, were too overtly political (Which is nearly impossible in the current world), or didn't do their paperwork properly.

Brennan said...

Jarrett's head should roll, she seems incompetent.

Mwahahahahahahhahahh. The Congress can't touch her. She's too dirty to nominate for anything where she has to explain the stains in her wardrobe.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...


I posted and linked to it


Um, so?

The other day you posted a link to a left wing blog which lied about the OIG report on the FBI allegedly spying on anti-war groups merely because they were anti-war.

Why would anyone believe your claim today?

Jay said...

No conservative groups were denied

Really?

None, ever?

That's what you're going to go with now, liar?

Jay said...

Isn't this reassuring:

Part of this, the report said, was due to unclear guidance in the law. “Regulations do not define how to measure whether social welfare is an organization’s ‘primary activity,’” the IG said.

In a response to the IG report, Joseph Grant, the acting IRS commissioner for tax-exempt and government entities, also pointed to confusion over how to enforce the law. “There are no bright lines for what constitutes political campaign intervention,” Grant wrote.


The IRS can't interpret the relevant laws.

William said...

The way an IRS audit chills free speech, a harmless little joke like Obama's empowers IRS agents.

Seeing Red said...

Wolf is Barry's 2nd cousin.

Cedarford said...

Excerpt of John Kass, Chicago Tribune on the scandals:

What Obama requires is another relaxing vacation. This time, the man needs a visit to Happy Land.

So please take my hand, Mr. President, and we'll fly there, over those political storm clouds in Washington, to where things were just about perfect:

Back home to Chicago. Grant Park. November 2008.
Can you remember the looks of genuine adoration in their eyes?

Some were so overcome they couldn't help but weep for joy. Others barely stopped their lips from twitching. Still others were wiggly with excitement, like puppies unable to keep still, and we know what puppies do when they're excited.
Many hugged and offered high-fives, or loudly clapped, or clinked glasses and gave each other profound smiles of satisfaction and joy.

And that was just the journalists.

The rest of Obama's voters were ecstatic too. But as historians will no doubt tell us, American journalists were especially thrilled.
Not all. A few grumpy types complained that messianic politics is never healthy for the Republic. But who could listen with all that joy in their ears?

The Republican establishment — the War Party — had been vanquished, and deservedly so, for talking out of both sides of its mouth about the need for a smaller government while feeding from that monstrous defense industry trough. They're in the wilderness still, and should remain there for a while.

And Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton had already had her wings clipped. Remember? She and Bill had dared suggest that Obama had played the old Chicago race card on her in the Democratic presidential primary — that primary of the 3 a.m. phone call. The media response was to crush her.


Seeing Red said...

Via TaxProf Blog:

The Internal Revenue Service is now facing a class action lawsuit over allegations that it improperly accessed and stole the health records of some 10 million Americans, including medical records of all California state judges.

According to a report by Courthousenews.com, an unnamed HIPAA-covered entity in California is suing the IRS, alleging that some 60 million medical records from 10 million patients were stolen by 15 IRS agents. The personal health information seized on March 11, 2011, included psychological counseling, gynecological counseling, sexual/drug treatment and other medical treatment data.

"This is an action involving the corruption and abuse of power by several Internal Revenue Service agents," the complaint reads. "No search warrant authorized the seizure of these records; no subpoena authorized the seizure of these records; none of the 10,000,000 Americans were under any kind of known criminal or civil investigation and their medical records had no relevance whatsoever to the IRS search. IT personnel at the scene, a HIPPA facility warning on the building and the IT portion of the searched premises, and the company executives each warned the IRS agents of these privileged records," it continued.

According to the case, the IRS agents had a search warrant for financial data pertaining to a former employee of the John Doe company, however, "it did not authorize any seizure of any healthcare or medical record of any persons, least of all third parties completely unrelated to the matter," the complaint read.

The class action lawsuit against the IRS seeks $25,000 in compensatory damages "per violation per individual" in addition to punitive damages for constitutional violations. Thus, compensatory damages could start at a minimum of $250 billion.

Seeing Red said...

That article was from March.

Jay said...

Talk about pathetic spin:

The government is simply too big for President Obama to keep track of all the wrongdoing taking place on his watch, his former senior adviser, David Axelrod, told MSNBC. “Part of being president is there’s so much beneath you that you can’t know because the government is so vast,” he explained.

--Watching the left make the right's arguments for them is funny.

Brennan said...

Catholic Professor audited by IRS after writing op/eds critical of fake Catholic organizations

The hearings are going to be epic if all these witnesses are able to testify about the timing of their audits.

cubanbob said...

IRS agents are government employees. The TEA Party wants to shrink the size of government. Some people are looking to preserve their phoney-baloney jobs. It ain't rocket science. Funny thing is that Holder just admitted the TEA Party is right. The government is to big to control. Too bad Nixon isn't around. He would be enjoying this turn of events.
It's official folks; the prez is now Trickey Barry Milhouse-Hussein Obama.

AllenS said...

At the very least, Lois Lerner needs to be fired immediately.

Hagar said...

The "tea party" groups are political and come under (c)(3), not (c)(4), which is for "social welfare" organizations.
The distinction is important for both reporting requirements and what is tax exempt activities.

What the groups received was not "additional scrutiny," but harassment. The IRS knew that the registrations could not ultimately be denied; it was just about delay, cost, frustration, and of course, milking for information that then was (most illegally) passed on to other entities.

And it is not just the IRS. The EPA also waves fees and expedites processing for favored ("green" or political) requests, while dragging their feet and charging the full monty to applicants not in favor.

And so it goes.

Brennan said...

Nice. Barack Obama, Eric Holder and David Axelrod all make the Tea Party case for smaller government on the same day.

The line to shove this in Greg Sargent's face forms to the left.

garage mahal said...

Um, so?

It answered your question.

Read before posting.

Matthew Sablan said...

Garage: Your link -doesn't- though. It doesn't say they were harassed due to their politics; it doesn't show that they had equal treatment to conservative groups (there's no mention of harassingly asking for details about unrelated family and social media posts, unless I missed those when I skimmed.) These denials may have, simply, been routine denials.

Seeing Red said...

Not too big to fail, Uncle Sam.

Brennan said...

The "tea party" groups are political and come under (c)(3), not (c)(4), which is for "social welfare" organizations.
The distinction is important for both reporting requirements and what is tax exempt activities.


How do you define "political"? How can the IRS?

How could they tell the difference between a group that teaches about the constitution and whether or not that makes them political?

These rule sets, as they cannot be universally defined, are poor upon reflection and completely wreckless based on the factual evidence we have. Who the hell does the IRS think they are assuming they are the dictionary?

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

It answered your question.


No it didn't.

You're a documented liar.

Jay said...

The Internal Revenue Service is now facing a class action lawsuit over allegations that it improperly accessed and stole the health records of some 10 million Americans, including medical records of all California state judges.


As I said the other day, if you don't think these people would leak electronic health records, you're dumb.

Jay said...

No conservative groups were denied, yet liberal groups were.

There were no liberal "groups"

There is 1 group you mentioned.

Again, you are a useless idiot.

Drago said...

Matthew Sablan said..."Garage: Your link -doesn't- though. It doesn't say they were harassed due to their politics; it doesn't show that they had equal treatment to conservative groups (there's no mention of harassingly asking for details about unrelated family and social media posts, unless I missed those when I skimmed.) These denials may have, simply, been routine denials"

Correct.

The article itself is utterly devoid of any information that would actually allow the reader to come to a conclusion about whether or not disparate treatment for conservative groups actually occurred.

Which, of course, is the intent of just such piece.

More typical, everyday and humdrum lefty deflection.

Of course, more actual and alleged IRS abuse is surfacing everyday, for example, just today:

http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/irs-face-lawsuit-over-theft-60-million-patient-health-records

What could go wrong with letting Obama's henchmen in the IRS have complete and unfettered access to all of your health records?

I mean, really?

Remember this one?: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/13/the-irs-admits-to-targeting-conservative-groups-but-were-they-also-leaking/

Good times, good times...if you're a lefty.

mrs whatsit said...

Hagar, actually the Tea Party groups in question were applying for (c) (4) "social welfare" status.

AJ Lynch said...

Jay said in response to Axelrod's lament that the govt is too big:

"--Watching the left make the right's arguments for them is funny."

Jay- that should be the comment of the day!

AJ Lynch said...

How is Organizing for America not a political group?

Jay said...

Notice how the silly, lying troll posts this:

The Internal Revenue Service, under pressure after admitting it targeted anti-tax Tea Party groups for scrutiny in recent years, also had its eye on at least three Democratic-leaning organizations seeking nonprofit status.

As if it is supposed to mean anything.

I mean, 500 conservative groups were targeted and 3 left leaning ones were, so why not pretend they are exactly the same?

dumbass

garage mahal said...

No it didn't.

3 liberal groups were denied. Deal with it, bag o dicks.

One of those groups, Emerge America, saw its tax-exempt status denied, forcing it to disclose its donors and pay some taxes. None of the Republican groups have said their applications were rejected.

Progress Texas, another of the organizations, faced the same lines of questioning as the Tea Party groups from the same IRS office that issued letters to the Republican-friendly applicants. A third group, Clean Elections Texas, which supports public funding of campaigns, also received IRS inquiries. Link.



cubanbob said...

IRS agents are government employees. The TEA Party wants to shrink the size of government. Some people are looking to preserve their phoney-baloney jobs. It ain't rocket science. Funny thing is that Holder just admitted the TEA Party is right. The government is to big to control. Too bad Nixon isn't around. He would be enjoying this turn of events.
It's official folks; the prez is now Trickey Barry Milhouse-Hussein Obama.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

3 liberal groups were denied.


Um, no they weren't.

You can't read.

You are a total & complete embarrassment.

Methadras said...

Oh no, The Obama Administration isn't hyperpartisan at all. They are Warp Factor Obama Partisan.

Jay said...

Notice to the resident dummy how this:

had its eye on at least three Democratic-leaning organizations seeking nonprofit status

Becomes this:
3 liberal groups were denied.

Why it is almost as if the stupid troll can't differentiate between being asked for more information and being "denied" or something.

Again, you're a useless idiot.

Jay said...

3 liberal groups were denied

No 1 liberal group was denied, and your pathetic attempt to change the subject makes you look even more stupid.

You should follow the first rule of holes, but you will, instead, persist.

Methadras said...

garage mahal said...

Chilling free speech is -bad.-

No conservative groups were denied, yet liberal groups were. Whose free speech is being chilled?


Being denied that status is a declarative statement. They were denied, not approved, they got their answer, there is no free speech chill in that regard. Are you trying to compete with neutron stars for density comparisons?

HA said...

How did we get to the point that the IRS is rationing our First Amendment rights?

garage mahal said...

I stand corrected. Emerge America was denied 501(c)4 status. They are a 527. Progress Texas and Clean Elections Texas were approved.

traditionalguy said...

The pro Israel defense groups were automatically deep sixed by Drone Killer's loyal followers.

What a pathetic excuse for a Government.

The Roman Empire was better run than the Obama's excuse for a 5th column enemy terrorist dressed up as a well meaning American President.

Matthew Sablan said...

Group hug?

Jay said...

This:

The IRS singled out tea party and other conservative groups for “burdensome” scrutiny because of their politically charged names and delayed approving some applications for so long that the groups simply gave up, according to an official government audit, released Tuesday



Is totally the same as 1 liberal group being denied.

Really, it is.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Keep shilling for Obama, you fat lefty piece of shit.

It's sad, your entire identity is tied up in leftwing politics. Your failures in academia, your failed marriage and personal life, loss of custody of your daughter, you literally have nothing good going as an individual.

So you get engrossed in lefty politics, you try and give some meaning to your life as part of the collective. It's Bushe's fault you are a failure, its Scott Walker who is to blame for the disintegration of your family.

Must be rough for you, first Walker gets resoundingly endorsed by your home state, and now your last best great black lefty hope is going down in flames.

If/when you decide to kill yourself, please do it in a manner that is respectful to others. Think "Bitchtits was here" ala Shawshank Redemption rather than pulling a Speedbump Tsarenov.

CEO-MMP said...

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

It answered your question.


No it didn't.

You're a documented liar."


Careful Jay. The sainted caplight will come riding in on a white horse and yell at you because "Garage Mahal DOES NOT lie!".


Meanwhile, if you read the link he posted, you'll see that one of the 3 groups was approved and 2 withdrew.

And yet...

Ah, skip it. Garage is a lying sack of crap. I used to have some respect for him.

He's like the party girl that used to just party cuz she liked it herself, then she had to keep doing it cuz no one would actually go buy her dinner and take her on a real date, they just picked her up, bought a 6 pack, fucked her and left her to walk home alone.

That's garage, walking home alone, liberal spin sperm dribbling down his thighs wishing someone loved him for him.



bagoh20 said...

How likely do you think it is that someone high up at the IRS said: "Sure someone might catch on, but by then the election will be over." Nate Silver says it's about a 99.5% chance. OK, he didn't, but only because nobody he knows is asking.

Methadras said...

We really need to crown our current local idiots Garage, Inga, Ritmo, PHX, R/V, et al. as the King of the Eristocracy. Who shall it be?

bagoh20 said...

That's slanderous. Garage always buys the beer.

garage mahal said...

and delayed approving some applications for so long that the groups simply gave up

Maybe the Tea Party didn't know they could still operate before its application for tax-exempt status was approved.

Or maybe they were getting legal advice from President Creams in his Jeans.

CEO-MMP said...

We really need to crown our current local idiots Garage, Inga, Ritmo, PHX, R/V, et al. as the King of the Eristocracy. Who shall it be?



King? Still gotta be Garage. He at least stays on point to do his job.

bagoh20 said...

President-Mom-Jeans is such an ass. It's hard not to believe he's been hurt by Garage in the past. Deeply hurt.

CEO-MMP said...

"Maybe the Tea Party didn't know they could still operate before its application for tax-exempt status was approved. "

Maybe they were scared off by the IRS telling them if they didn't provide every little bit of information they could be charged with perjury?

Like if the IRS wants a list of what kind of reading material your group favors and you say "The US Constitution, fuckwad" but someone in your group read Atlas Shrugged and mentions it on your group's website, you get the full weight and terror of the most efficient terror cell in world history down on your head.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Aww, your delicate sensibilities offended Bagoh?

Am I not adhering to your "rules of civility?"

Boo hoo hoo.

Sadly for you, my free speech is not chilled by your objections.

Duly noted, and ignored.

bagoh20 said...

Every king needs a queen, and that's gonna be the one that's the prized title.

CEO-MMP said...



President-Mom-Jeans is such an ass. It's hard not to believe he's been hurt by Garage in the past. Deeply hurt


You mean like "okay, but don't hold my hand in public"?

CEO-MMP said...

Ritmo's the queen. Or maybe phx.

Inga's the jester. And ed. Like Punch and Judy.

Matthew Sablan said...

Guys, guys, Garage admitted he misread the article. No need to pile on the one time he actually listens and checks what he's saying with his source.

Hence: Group hug.

CEO-MMP said...

"Hence: Group hug."

No way. Bags is a groper.

furious_a said...

The bumper stickers print themselves:

Sinn Fein: the political wing of the IRA.
White House: the political wing of the IRS.

Seeing Red said...

Forbes has the article about the IRS medical records grab.

That was fast work.

Now we get to rehash Obamacare & the IRS all over again, it might sink in this time they get to access your checking account and take the money out.

Hagar said...

mrs whatsit,

I think you are wrong. c-3's can be asked for their donor lists, and these groups were asked for just that.
c-4's do not have to list their donors.

Garage's crap about "no groups being denied" is just that - crap.

It never was about denying the groups status, just delay and harassment.

furious_a said...

How did we get to the point that the IRS is rationing our First Amendment rights?

The same way we got to the point were the IRS are going to ration access to health insurance exchanges, waivers and subsidies -- enough voting-eligible citizens acquiesced to it. The rationing will go something like this:

Greetings, citizen. I'm a frightening and inquisitive gov't official. Would you like to sign this pre-printed ballot, or should I just tear up your health-care access card here and now?

Wake up and smell the Chicago.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

Maybe the Tea Party didn't know they could still operate before its application for tax-exempt status was approved.


Now the high school educated bozo, who demonstrated in this very thread he can not read news articles, is giving legal advice.

That's nice

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

Maybe the Tea Party didn't know they could still operate before its application for tax-exempt status was approved.


Oh wait, he's creating a straw man of "operate"

Of course he's an idiot.

bagoh20 said...

"Aww, your delicate sensibilities offended Bagoh?"

Just stating the obvious. Everyone is thinking the same thing. With such obsession, there are only two possibilities: either you are a weak moby or somewhere in the past you lost some sweet Garage love. I just think someone should tell you that your slip is showing.

MadisonMan said...

Obama will get to the bottom of this.

Levi Starks said...

Stop clinging to your Bible,Guns,and tax free status.

furious_a said...

garage: Maybe the Tea Party didn't know they could still operate before its application for tax-exempt status was approved.

...or maybe they didn't know they could get their request hand-carried through the approval process by an IRS section director, who could make said approval retroactive.

garage mahal said...

or somewhere in the past you lost some sweet Garage love

I've crushed a lot of hearts and dreams. And I don't even mean to!

Inga said...

Wow, I wasn't even involved in this poo flinging thread and yet was dragged into it by the local obsessive loons. Why are they so fixated on us?

gerry said...

Obama has spoken to his minions.

Hmmm. This is getting interesting. It's not going to go away soon. Even.with.resignations.

Hagar said...

You have to listen carefully.
"Common Cause" and Karl Rove's "Crossroads" are 501-(c)(4) organizations and engage in political lobbying.

Most of the "tea party" (with lower case t's) organizations ask for 501-(c)(3) status, which makes them exempt from income taxes, but limits them to "educational" efforts; they are supposed to not go overtly partizan politcal.

The MSM (and such people as Garage) tries to make it all look like one vast right-wing conspiracy concocted by Karl Rove and the Westboro Baptist Church, so the conflate the different organizations and categories to cause as much confusion as they can.

eddie willers said...

Justice delayed is justice denied

Jay said...

Low level staffer:

The director of the Internal Revenue Service division under fire for singling out conservative groups sent a 2012 letter under her name to one such group, POLITICO has learned.

The March 2012 letter was sent to the Ohio-based American Patriots Against Government Excess (American PAGE) under the name of Lois Lerner, the director of the Exempt Organizations Division.


Bob said...

The investigators looking into Benghazi just got their new assignments. Nothing to see here folks; move along.

Matthew Sablan said...

Now Jay, just because you sign something doesn't mean you're responsible for it.

ken in sc said...

The German Home-School refugees should go into hiding. How many illegal aliens do we already have here? It should not be hard to set up an underground railroad for them and move them around to friendly jurisdictions. Maybe they could learn Spanish.


CEO-MMP said...

"Inga said...
Wow, I wasn't even involved in this poo flinging thread and yet was dragged into it by the local obsessive loons. Why are they so fixated on us?"

Dragged into nothing. Go back to your upside down sleep.

CEO-MMP said...

garage mahal said...
or somewhere in the past you lost some sweet Garage love

I've crushed a lot of hearts and dreams. And I don't even mean to!"

I'm not buying that for a second, you shameless hussy!

edutcher said...

Let's see how garage feels about this one:

IRS is being sued over the theft of 60 million medical records.

Can't wait for BarryCare next year.

Seeing Red said...

The German parents should go to a church for sanctuary.

Drago said...

So, what was the specific event or directive that kicked off a lot of this lefty-luvin' IRS "fun fun FUN!"?

Well, perhaps we'll never know....

http://washingtonexaminer.com/what-sparked-irs-abuses-treasury-report-redacts-first-item-in-all-timelines/article/2529736

Drago said...

Nobody says it better (much of the time) than Ace:

"David Axelrod, after having fought for five years to blow up the size of government to Leviathan scale, now uses the size of government to excuse Obama's scandals-- No man could run a "government so vast."

http://ace.mu.nu/

The gall. The gall.

Alex said...

Who cares? They're Tea-thuglicans and deserve to be stomped on. I'm with Media Matters on this one - it's time to use the full FORCE of the government to stamp out the SCOURGE of right-wing politics FOREVER.

edutcher said...

Drago said...

Nobody says it better (much of the time) than Ace:

"David Axelrod, after having fought for five years to blow up the size of government to Leviathan scale, now uses the size of government to excuse Obama's scandals-- No man could run a "government so vast."

http://ace.mu.nu/

The gall. The gall.


Son of "I know nussing. I zee nussing. I hear nussing"

More here.

Apparently, the rats are starting to smell one of their own and look for the exits. The editorial boards of the Gray Lady, WaPo, and USA Today today all are suddenly upset over the AP's phone records.

Drago said...

Alex: "Who cares? They're Tea-thuglicans and deserve to be stomped on. I'm with Media Matters on this one - it's time to use the full FORCE of the government to stamp out the SCOURGE of right-wing politics FOREVER"

Alex, give it up.

There is no sarcastic over the top comment you can make to illustrate the lefts hypocrisy and extremism because the left routinely exceeds it.

It has become impossible to caricature the left.

It's really just who they are.

jr565 said...

Julian Bond weighs in on the affair. Those racists tea partiers had it coming:

Julian Bond, chairman emeritus of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, joined anchor Thomas Roberts on MSNBC on Tuesday where he said that he did not believe the federal government was complicit in any wrongdoing given the news that the Internal Revenue Service singled out conservative groups for added scrutiny. He said that it is right of the government to look into the Tea Party, which he called “overtly racist” and the “Taliban wing of American politics.” Bond made these comments after noting that his group was illegitimately targeted by the IRS in 2004.

Bond said that his group was singled out by the IRS in 2004 after he delivered a political speech critical of President George W. Bush. Though his organization was later cleared, Bond said that his group was “unfairly targeted.”

However, Bond said that there are no parallels between that case and the charge that the IRS devoted undue scrutiny to conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

“I don’t think there’s a double standard at all,” Bond said. “I think it’s entirely legitimate to look at the tea party.”

“I mean, here are a group of people who are admittedly racist, who are overtly political, who tried as best they can to harm President [Barack] Obama in every way they can,” Bond continued.

“They are the Taliban wing of American politics and we all ought to be a little worried about them,” Bond asserted.

When asked if his assessment of the Tea Party was “a little harsh,” Bond said that it was not. “The truth hurts,” Bond insisted.

Alex said...

Hell I tried to top Julian Bond, but the left writes their own caricatures.

Dante said...

Does anyone know what it means to not have a grant of tax free status?

Are you required, for instance, to pay taxes during that time?

edutcher said...

jr565 said...

Julian Bond weighs in on the affair. Those racists tea partiers had it coming:

Peachfuzz, as we called him when I was a Poli Sci major in undergrad school, is the quintessential Has-Been that Never Was.

In the 60s, he was supposed to be the New Black Moderate Intellectual. As life has passed him by, he's become a racist.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

garage mahal,

One of those groups, Emerge America, saw its tax-exempt status denied, forcing it to disclose its donors and pay some taxes. None of the Republican groups have said their applications were rejected.

Progress Texas, another of the organizations, faced the same lines of questioning as the Tea Party groups from the same IRS office that issued letters to the Republican-friendly applicants. A third group, Clean Elections Texas, which supports public funding of campaigns, also received IRS inquiries.


That equals one group denied, and two questioned.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

The talking points are in, Media Matters and Daily Kos have distributed them to the retarded kool aid drinkers, and they will parrot them ad nauseum.

The true believing kool aid drinkers cannot be reached, but fortunately the genie is out of the bottle at this point and their bleating is in vain.

Many prominent Democrats are already trying to distance themselves from the shitstorm, but the retard cannon fodder trolls on this site are too stupid to cut their losses.

Hagar said...

You might want to read James Taranto's column over at the WSJ site today.

gerry said...
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jr565 said...

I don’t think there’s a double standard at all,” Bond said. “I think it’s entirely legitimate to look at the tea party.”

and conservatives, apparently think its entirely legitimate to look at the NAACP. So there. Na na boo boo.

edutcher said...

President-Mom-Jeans said...

The talking points are in, Media Matters and Daily Kos have distributed them to the retarded kool aid drinkers, and they will parrot them ad nauseum.

I've wondered where Ritmo and the rest of the Eloi have been. Rough week so far.

And it ain't over.

Can't wait for the Friday document drop.

creeley23 said...

Your goon squad government at work.

chrisnavin.com said...

Maybe Obama can appoint Van Jones as investigative czar or something?

That'll fix it.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

I think Ritmo may have switched to some less obvious sock puppets or just fucked off since his comments started getting deleted.

One can hope at least.

edutcher said...

Ritmo, shilol, some phony folksy, and many other comic characters exist so we always have a supply of trolls.

As soon as there's a pig in flight, we'll hear from them.

But it may not be until the weekend.

edutcher said...

PS garage can breathe easily.

Just 2 "rogue" employees operating out of 4 offices are responsible for the IRS abuses.

garage mahal said...

That equals one group denied, and two questioned.

Yep. No Tea Party groups were denied to my knowledge.

Marshal said...

garage mahal said...
No Tea Party groups were denied to my knowledge.


You'd think garage would realize the zero denials fact makes the extra scrutiny and delay even more outrageous. But that would require he think critically about the talking points he was given instead of just regurgitating them. So no chance.

garage mahal said...

You'd think garage would realize the zero denials fact makes the extra scrutiny and delay even more outrageous

The Tea Party weren't the only groups that experienced delays and extra scrutiny. Shockingly, it's not all about you. Well it is, but shouldn't be.

Marshal said...

garage mahal said...
The Tea Party weren't the only groups that experienced delays and extra scrutiny. Shockingly, it's not all about you. Well it is, but shouldn't be.


Tea Partiers were the only ones who went through it because of their political positions though aren't they? Shockingly you can't manage even one iota of honesty.

eddie willers said...

Julian used to "pass" for white until he figured out there was more money in being a repressed negro.

Jay said...

The Tea Party weren't the only groups that experienced delays and extra scrutiny

Hysterical.

He's actually trying to actually pretend there is some equivalence here.

garage mahal said...

Tea Partiers were the only ones who went through it because of their political positions though aren't they?

They did single out groups from name searches.

96 of 298 groups scrutinized were Tea Party. Of them 29 approved.

Jay said...

By the way, garage got his talking point (Liberal groups received same IRS letter!!! from the Daily Kos.

Just FYI.

Mark said...

Sitting on an application is much more effective than killing it, because then the people trying to form the group are unlikely to try re-grouping under a different charter.

Jay said...

96 of 298 groups scrutinized

There were more than 298 groups.


You need fresher talking points, moron.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

They did single out groups from name searches.


You're a silly, pathetic, fucking hack.

There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months. In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows. As applications from conservative groups sat in limbo, groups with liberal-sounding names had their applications approved in as little as nine months. With names including words like "Progress" or "Progressive," the liberal groups applied for the same tax status and were engaged in the same kinds of activities as the conservative groups.

Carry on, moron.

Mark said...

Yeah. It's squirrels all the way down over in Garage land.

Jay said...

96 of 298 groups scrutinized were Tea Party.

Uh huh:

When tax agents started singling out non-profit groups for extra scrutiny in 2010, they looked at first only for key words such as 'Tea Party,' but later they focused on criticisms by groups of "how the country is being run," according to investigative findings reviewed by Reuters on Sunday.


Uh-huh:
at the time of the letter, the group was in the midst of the application process for tax-exempt nonprofit status — a process that would stretch for nearly three years and involve queries for detailed information on its social media activity, its organizational set-up, bylaws, membership and interactions with political officials.

The letter threatened to close American PAGE’s case file unless additional information was received within 60 days.

American PAGE first applied for tax-exempt nonprofit status in late 2009. It was granted 501(c)(4) status last year.


Everything you post here is a lie or in service to a lie.

Jay said...

Mark said...
Sitting on an application is much more effective than killing it


No Mark, in garage-land, you can "keep operating"

He actually said that above trying to rationalize his lies.

AprilApple said...

Garage- Watch this and then eat some shit.

Democrats are rotten, evil and corrupt - to the core.

Mark said...

Actually went over the the Emerge Now site to look at what they're about.

Emerge America is changing the face of American politics by identifying, training and encouraging women to run for office, get elected and to seek higher office. Our intensive, cohort-based seven-month training program is unique. As the number of elected Democratic women remains flat or even declines, the need for our work is growing across the country.

Two thoughts: That's about as directly political as you can get. Personally, I don't think that's a reason to be denied Tax Exempt status, but it does seem to at least skirt the regulation that "Section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from supporting political candidates, and are subject to limits on lobbying. They risk loss of tax exempt status if these rules are violated." I would make the case that training candidates isn't the same as supporting their candidacies, but it surely isn't clear.

Second, they seem to be working quite explicitly outside the Democratic Party establishment. Nobody said the Obama Administration loves all on the Left equally, and with a few notable exceptions the Administration has something of a "Boys Club" reputation.

So it wouldn't surprise me if a group whose CEO worked for the Hillary! Campaign in '08 might have had the screws put to it.

edutcher said...

A little grist for the mill:
75% of donations from the Cincy IRS office were Democrat.

Discuss.

Jay said...

Total coincidence I'm sure!

In February 2012, seven Democratic senators wrote a letter to the Internal Revenue Service commissioner requesting an investigation of “social welfare” organizations.

“We write to inquire if the Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) is investigating or intends to investigate whether groups designated as “social welfare” organizations, and thus receiving tax and other advantages under section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code (IRC), 26 U.S.C. § 501(c)(4), are improperly engaged in a substantial or even a predominant amount of campaign activity,” the letter read.

Mark said...

You see, actually digging into the opposition's talking points is fun and rewarding!

Jay said...
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garage mahal said...

There were more than 298 groups.

Sorry, I'll believe the IG report over what a car thief, Darrell Issa, says as reported by Fox News, for obvious reasons.

Jay said...

75% of donations from the Cincy IRS office were Democrat.

I can't believe it is that low!

Jay said...

Mark said...
You see, actually digging into the opposition's talking points is fun and rewarding!


Yes, but it is not useful for the garage types.

See, he thinks he has actually refuted the idea that conservative groups were targeted by producing 3 that went through a similar process.

You can't fix dumb.

traditionalguy said...

NB:The IRS used its Gestapo level powers to personally attack traditional Catholic and Protestant religious leaders with Star Chamber demands for appearances at personal audits that singled out their speech on religious issues and demanded to know who hired them. This cost them great time and money producing unnecessary documents and left the Gestapo powers experience hanging over their heads.

If such conduct happened at any other Federal Agency, a Federal Judge would eventually make them pay for it. But the IRS has always been intentionally unregulated and given quasi-terrorist vigilante methods to get the Taxes.

Obama is at the gates using IRS and EPA Federal Agents as his SS Battalions. Will Congress stop him?

garage mahal said...

See, he thinks he has actually refuted the idea that conservative groups were targeted by producing 3 that went through a similar process.


298 applications went through extra scrutiny. 96 were Tea Party groups.

Matt said...

Jay, I saw that article. To be fair to Carl Levin, we need to provide a baseline for what he deems an acceptable 501(c)(4) group.

http://www.barackobama.com/about/about-ofa?source=footer-nav

President-Mom-Jeans said...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_IRS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-05-15-18-31-03

Obama announces the acting Director of the IRS has resigned.

But Bitchtits says that nothing was done wrong.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Go get your new talking points, fatass.

Hurry up.

Matt said...

The acting director of the IRS worked at the IRS for more than 25 years. He is resigning now because of how he unfairly targeted liberal groups while Bush was President.

/garage

Matthew Sablan said...

More low-level employees, like the acting director of the IRS, are expected to take responsibility for the actions of their local office.

edutcher said...

garage mahal said...

There were more than 298 groups.

Sorry, I'll believe the IG report over what a car thief, Darrell Issa, says as reported by Fox News, for obvious reasons.


The actual number is almost 500.

And this is reported not only by Mr Issa*, but also Jim Jordan (BA in Economics (University of Wisconsin–Madison, no less), two-time NCAA Division I wrestling champion, and MS in Education)

Jay said...

75% of donations from the Cincy IRS office were Democrat.

I can't believe it is that low!


There will always be a certain number of transients in for tax season as well as a number of Republicans sitting out a recession.

* Since said vehicle was found abandoned and no charges were pressed, garage is doing to Mr Issa what he claims we are doing to Choom.

Jay said...

298 applications went through extra scrutiny. 96 were Tea Party groups.

Uh, 298 applications went through extra scrutiny.
295 were conservative groups.

Idiot.

Jay said...

Me:e thinks he has actually refuted the idea that conservative groups were targeted by producing 3 [others] that went through a similar process.

garage:
96 were Tea Party groups.

Again, you can't fix stupid.

Jay said...

Notice how badly garagie has to hold on to the meme.

"98"!!!

Uh, more than 98 were conservative.

I said conservative.

You continue to beclown yourself at each & every turn.

AprilApple said...

Colorado conservative groups targeted by IRS

garage mahal said...

Uh, 298 applications went through extra scrutiny.
295 were conservative groups


What page of the IG report did you find that on?

garage mahal said...

Jay?

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Jay said...

He's already "former"

Former acting IRS commissioner Steven Miller says their investigation has pinpointed two "rogue" IRS agents in their Cincinnati office at the center of the targeting of conservative groups.

Jay said...

96 were Tea Party groups.

Um, so?

Among the criteria used by IRS officials to flag applications was a "Be On the Look Out" list, or a BOLO, which was discontinued in 2012, according to the report. The criteria on the BOLO included:
-- Whether "Tea Party," "Patriots" or "9/12 Project" was referenced in the case file.
-- Whether the issues outlined in the application included government spending, government debt or taxes.
-- Whether there was advocating or lobbying to "make America a better place to live."
-- Whether a statement in the case file criticized how the country is being run.
-- Whether it advocated education about the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.


Garage thinks repeating "tea party" over & over means something.

Garage is stupid.

garage mahal said...

Uh, 298 applications went through extra scrutiny.
295 were conservative groups


Cite for this? You must have got it from somewhere.

Marshal said...

garage mahal said...

Cite for this? You must have got it from somewhere.


It's hilarious when garage pretends to care about facts.

Almost Ali said...

Congenital liar Barack Obama said acting IRS commissioner Steven Miller resigned (ie was fired), but Obama was apparently (and naturally) lying on two counts: First, Miller is still there, he hasn't left the building. Second, his "acting" term ends as previously scheduled in early June.

Drago said...

garage: "Cite for this?"

LOL

Yes, make sure you provide a cite for your assertions.

More importantly, make sure it's a "credible" cite.

What's a "credible" cite, you ask?

Good question.

Of course, garage doesn't have an answer.

Like pornography, garage can't define it, but he knows one when he sees one!

LOL

Of course, given garage's "linking" habits, get ready for a "credibility" ruling that is centered around Firedoglake, media matters, daily kos, etc.

LOL

Jay said...

garage mahal said...


Cite for this?


Beyond comical.

Hey, remember the other day when you linked 3 times to that silly left wing blog that abjectly lied about the OIG reported related to the false claims that the FBI "spied" on anti-war groups merely for being anti-war?

You admit you were wrong about that, right?

garage mahal said...

Have a cite?

"Oh hey, remember the other day....!!??"

LOL

Jay said...

garage actually thinks that CNN reporting that the IRS "targeted conservative groups" means that, well, only Tea Party groups = conservative or something.

Again, garage is stupid.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...


LOL


I take that to mean you refuse to admit you lied.

furious_a said...

Obama has paid stooges at Media Matters and OFAy to do this sort of dead-ender backing and filling and blowing smoke...

...and here's garage flailing around for free, like a sucker.

furious_a said...

Sinn Fein: the political wing of the IRA.
White House: the political wing of the IRS.

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