April 17, 2013

"Investigators believe they have identified a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings..."

"The breakthrough came from analysis of video from a department store near the site of the second explosion. Video from a Boston television station also contributed to the progress, said the source, who declined to be more specific but called it a significant development."

AND: "An official briefed on the Boston Marathon bombing investigation said today that authorities have an image of a suspect carrying, and perhaps dropping, a black bag at the second bombing scene on Boylston Street, outside of the Forum restaurant." 

OR: Not.

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Jay said...

CNN describes suspect as "dark skinned male" and the left is going ballistic on Twitter.

This is a bad, bad day for the left since not only will the suspect not be a white male, but the Assault Weapons Ban & Toomey/Manchin are going down in flames.

Nonapod said...

That was surprising quick (assuming this turns out to be the guy). It took awhile to catch Robert Rudolph and a real long while to catch Ted Kaczynski. I was half expecting this to take years.

Colonel Angus said...

Where are you reading that in the CNN article Jay? I don't see anything referencing gender much less the level of melatonin.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Good. Let the recriminations begin. I'm tired of the calm and rational discussions about the injured, the device and police investigation.

Time for us to get our partisan hate on.

BDNYC said...

Zombie Richard Jewell did it.

Sorun said...

I'm guessing he's a Mexican, and used a Marcophone to detonate the bombs. I could be wrong though.

Larry J said...

I couldn't care less about the race, religion or nationality of the person (or persons) who planted those bombs. I want the bastard(s) caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law, which could perhaps be a federal death penalty.

If the bomber(s) turns out to be white, prosecute. If not white, prosecute. If Christian, prosecute. If Muslim, prosecute. If athesist, prosecute. Screw political correctness.

AllenS said...

(CNN) -- [Breaking news update at 1:47 p.m. Wednesday ]

An arrest has been made in the Boston bombings investigation based on two videos showing images of the suspect, a federal law enforcement source told CNN's Fran Townsend.

Chip Ahoy said...

When authorities apprehended the suspect he had already been captured, bound, his bottom legs blown off so that the tibia and fibula were exposed and hanging by muscle material, set upon a wheelchair, rolled around for an hour and left to die. Authorities are investigating the unusual cruelty and the possibility of networking sites and crowd sourcing affecting the sequence of events.

Marshal said...

Nonapod said...
That was surprising quick (assuming this turns out to be the guy).


We went from publicizing we had no leads to being confident enough we're calling him a suspect in a few hours?

Jay said...

Colonel Angus,

CNN's John King said it live on TV.

Link

Glen Filthie said...

Yeah, right.

And the mudflaps that riotted and killed American politicos in Benghazi during Libyagate did it because of some inflammatory video they saw on Youtube.

Calypso Facto said...

"Where are you reading that in the CNN article Jay? I don't see anything referencing gender much less the level of melatonin."

We certainly wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions about how much sleep the suspect got before setting up the explosives. Are you suggesting jet lag will be the alibi? Or maybe he/she was disgruntled because the race kept him/her awake?

tim in vermont said...

Place yer bets! Jihadi.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

I agree with Slate (to an extent). There will be different set of ramifications based on the suspect. In ascending order:

1. OWS affiliate. Almost no fall-out. There will be a boycott by the media;
2. Crazy. Much finger pointing and posturing but little fall-out;
3. Rightwinger. A deafening scream from the left and media. Increased gun control and more damage to the Tea PArt and Republican brands;
4. Islamic terrorist. Huge impact on our freedoms and much legislation. We'll have bags searched in department stores, movie theatres, and maybe randown TSA searches on the street.

Colonel Angus said...

Thanks Jay. I didn't see video of King.

I think this does illustrate that you can kill and maim a lot of people without using an 'assault rifle".



Rumpletweezer said...

Can I copyright the phrase "dark-skinned caucasian?"

ndspinelli said...

I believe if anyone besides an 80 year old female buys a pressure cooker then it should be reported to authorties..particularly if it's a Middle Eastern male. They don't cook, their women do.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Rumpletweezer said...
Can I copyright the phrase "dark-skinned caucasian?"

4/17/13, 1:10 PM

Superior snark!

Bob Boyd said...

You can check out images from 4chan here:

http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA

chickelit said...

The Marathon is a race but the killer isn't.

I disagree with Ifill's tweet linked above. Any further description, clothing, hair, skin color, may help other witnesses come forward to solve this crime.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Can I copyright the phrase "dark-skinned caucasian?"

You'll be hearing from George Zimmerman's lawyers.

tim in vermont said...

http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/04/17/boston-bombing-suspect-man-black-bag-pic/

Here is one purported pic

chrisnavin.com said...

I hope it isn't a mulatto transgender of unknown origin and/or faith, with perhaps a penchant for polygamy. That would be unfortunate for the community.

X said...

Can I copyright the phrase "dark-skinned caucasian?"


I'm going with middle eastern teabagger or white arab.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Dipped my tow into the fever swamp of daily kos. A direct quote is "please please please let this be a gun nut."

Robert Cook said...

"Can I copyright the phrase "dark-skinned caucasian?"

Perhaps it was George Hamilton.

chickelit said...

Those photos are amazing, Bob. This thing is cracking open.

Michael said...

Except it does not have the "earmarks" of the Eric Rudolf Olympic Park bombing because Eric Rudolf called the cops and alerted them to the fact that a bomb had been planted and that there was only one bomb. Otherwise exactly the same.

creeley23 said...

Great links Bob and Tim!

I'd say the odds on radical Muslim bombers just jumped to 10:1 easy.

bagoh20 said...

Seems too quick to be true, but that would be fantastic. Nothing will work better to reduce these attacks better than a quick capture, trial, and conviction, followed by an "accidental" death at the hands of fellow prisoners.

CEO-MMP said...

someone in gwen ifil's twitter feed, responding to her "oh it's so terrible that they used "dark skinned individual" to describe him" tweet wants to know where Boehner was.

Ah leftists. Y'all never disappoint.

CEO-MMP said...

bagoh20 said...

Seems too quick to be true, but that would be fantastic. Nothing will work better to reduce these attacks better than a quick capture, trial, and conviction, followed by an "accidental" death at the hands of fellow prisoners.


Not professionals, and they picked a target slash time where there were more cameras going than about any other place on earth. There were more bytes of digital film being consumed there at that time than at Lindsay Lohan's last court appearance.

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edutcher said...

The original point said a black man and the trolls were all over fox and the NY Post.

Can't wait for their incisive analysis now.

Sorun said...

They arrested someone but he must have escaped since no one is now under arrest.

Bob Boyd said...

@chickelet

Yes. Fascinating photo-sleuthing.
Don't know if any of those guys are the suspect, but pretty cool stuff all the same.

Here it is again
http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA

bagoh20 said...

Look people, I'm an idiot. I need time to find, delete and repost my comments at least 3 times before being quoted. Help the handicapped, would you?

CEO-MMP said...

bagoh20 said...

Look people, I'm an idiot. I need time to find, delete and repost my comments at least 3 times before being quoted. Help the handicapped, would you?


Sorry bags. I'll try to do better next time.

Oh wait--I just did it again didn't I?

Mark said...

I think Congress needs to immediately ban pressure cookers.

Who needs that kind of cooking power anyway?

rcommal said...

A local Boston TV station (streaming it) is saying that, as of now, investigators are planning a public briefing at 5 p.m. Eastern. It'll happen when it happens, of course.

Shana said...

"Perhaps it was George Hamilton."

Good one, Robert Cook.

campy said...

Also ban ball bearings.

Jay said...

Now CNN is apparently walking back their report.

CEO-MMP said...

and nails. and circuit boards. and duct tape.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Lots of conflicting stories in Boston now,not sure what is going on.

CNN and some of the other news outfits may have jumped the gun on this, I'm not sure what the hell is going on now.

Jay said...

Boston PD and NBC News say no arrest.

The media pretty much sucks.

tim in vermont said...

What I was thinking was that if they knew who it was right away, my money was on the Saudi student. But now, not so much.

Larry J said...

X said...
Can I copyright the phrase "dark-skinned caucasian?"

I'm going with middle eastern teabagger or white arab.


Perhaps he was a Caucasian Arab Evangelical Catholic Muslim who is a military veteran.

Howard said...

If the Proctor-Silex bomber was white, his face would be plastered all over the internets from a very public perp walk. I'm sure it's a macho man from the middle east

CEO-MMP said...

BPD tweeted "no arrest" at about 2:33 but 'sources' are telling WCVB (channel 5 Boston) that a suspect is in custody.

CEO-MMP said...

Courthouse security is high and Federal police are saying the suspect will be arriving at court soon, according to a tweet from WCVB.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Perhaps no "arrest" because they don't want to mirandize the motherfucker.

Or perhaps CNN, AP, Fox, etc all jumped the gun.

I'm really hoping its the former.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

BPD tweeted "no arrest" at about 2:33 but 'sources' are telling WCVB (channel 5 Boston) that a suspect is in custody.



We went through this bullshit on Monday. I don't know why the BPD plays these stupid word games. They would be better advised to just say "no comment".

tim in vermont said...

Those photos make a bit of a case that there was a team involved.

Scott M said...

Perhaps it was George Hamilton.

George Hamilton is a dark-skinned Transylvanian. I can see the confusion, though.

tim in vermont said...

If the gun control vote is such a good thing for Harry Reid, why is he holding the vote on a news vortex of a day like this?

rcommal said...

I think the confusion involves the difference between "arrest" and "in custody." From what I can tell from various, including local, sources the latter appears to be the case. CNN appears to have conflated the two (or maybe their source did and they didn't double-check rigorously enough).

Or maybe authorities aren't ready to release exact status at present.

Regardless, we'll find out when we find out...to state the obvious.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

they picked a target slash time where there were more cameras going than about any other place on earth. There were more bytes of digital film being consumed there at that time than at Lindsay Lohan's last court appearance.

This technological fact is pretty amazing. The numbers of photos and videos from many different angles makes it difficult to "hide in the crowd".

Plus, the hive-mind of the internet is also amazing. The numbers of people who are putting information together and gleaning clues, many of them the same, from the multitudes of digitized images, is something that would not have happened in the time frame that is happening now. Instant communication in the hive-mind. Sometimes for the bad, in spreading falsehoods. This time for the good.

rcommal said...

I know it seems like just semantics but there is a significant difference in terms such as in custody, arrested, charged and etc.

Inga said...

Again MSNBC was the most accurate, they STRESSED no arrest when others were saying there was.

Pogo said...

"By Israel News Agency Staff

Jerusalem, Israel --- April 15, 2013 … Shortly after terror bombs exploded and murdered over 12 people at the Boston Marathon, members of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah were reported to be dancing in the streets of Gaza, handing out candies to passerbys.

The head of an Islamic terror organization in Jordan - the Muslim Salafi group says he’s “happy to see the horror in America” after the bombing attacks in Boston.
"

But it's probably nothing.

CEO-MMP said...

Inga...jesus.

Stop. Just stop.

MSNBC is not an accurate source of news. Ever.

When we have a rapidly developing situation, things are going to be a little fuzzy. Add in the sheer layers of bullshit, multiple federal agencies, multiple state agencies etc etc...it's a wonder anything gets done.

Roger J. said...

The video cam surveillance pics linked above where quite good. But what I am interested in is how one goes from the video cam shots to identifying a certain suspect. Anyway--I suppose all will be revealed to us in the next 12 hours.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

tim in vermont said...
Those photos make a bit of a case that there was a team involved.

4/17/13, 1:42 PM

Didn't Janet Napolitano just say that there was no broader plot? Why does our government feel so relaxed about lying to us? Why don't we get more upset when they do?

MadisonMan said...

I am skeptical.

exhelodrvr1 said...

Calypso,
"because the race kept him/her awake?"

Stop bringing race into it!

rcommal said...

Breaking news is often broken. That's the nature of the beast.

CEO-MMP said...

2:47 WCVB says again an arrest is imminent.

(via twitter)

rcommal said...

MadisonMan: That is the perfect attitude to adopt.

Lem said...

Somebody saw the woman?

I Callahan said...

Again MSNBC was the most accurate, they STRESSED no arrest when others were saying there was.

This assumes that the police and NBC are telling the truth (at least semantically). I don't believe it.

Read the prior comments regarding "in custody" or "under arrest".

CEO-MMP said...

BTW, Inga: WCVB is the ABC affiliate in Boston. They've been doing Boston news a long, long time. They don't have a staff of newsbunnies, they have a staff of serious reporters. They don't pretty up their set for the most part, they still kind of look like news from the 80's. No sneering, no condescension, just reporting. When it's a Boston story, they're the ones I trust the most, over the CBS, NBC and Fox affiliate.
And over NECN.

Because NESN is a better news source than NECN. Or MSNBC for that matter.

C Stanley said...

I find it concerning that details of the imminent arrest are being made public while the arrest is imminent.

Inga said...

"Stop. Just stop.
Fox is not an accurate source of news. Ever."

4/17/13, 1:48 PM

FIFY

I Callahan said...

Inga, you didn't fix anything.

bagoh20 said...

"Those photos make a bit of a case that there was a team involved."

Most of those guy look guilty, and the two guys dressed identical with large black backpacks? They have my vote.



Dust Bunny Queen said...

....the hive-mind. Sometimes for the bad, in spreading falsehoods. This time for the good.

I HOPE! We don't need more people like Jewell scapegoated in a mad rush for justice/vengeance.

Roger J. said...

My personal Irony--I did a wall street journal recipe for boef bourganion using a pressure cooker on that very day--the recipe came out wonderfully--cooked in 45 minutes--and then I find that pressure cookers are also bomb makers.

CEO-MMP said...

Inga, have you ever heard (read) me praise Fox News?

I don't watch Fox News. I don't talk about Fox News, I don't care about Fox News. Why are you intent on turning this into Fox News vs MSNBC?

Roger J. said...

My lady asked me about pressure cookers, and I responded it was based on Boyles law about the effects of pressure. We should probably ban not only high capacity pressure cookers but references to Boyle's law.

CEO-MMP said...

2:58 a reporter for CVB quotes a Homeland cop at the courthouse as saying the media may have jumped to early.


shocking.

rcommal said...

I'm following two, live, continuous local sources, one streaming TV, one streaming radio (different affiliates, as well). (This is in addition to various reports by print/internet media.)

One of them is sticking to "person of interest" and/or "a suspect has been identified" and just said they've been told that there is no suspect in custody, and that there has been no arrest.

The other is stressing they cannot confirm reports of arrest and that in fact they are being told there has been no arrest. However, they are persisting, so far, with "person in custody."

----

We really know nothing for sure, yet, as to what's going on. For all we know...solely for example, and for theoretical example, ONLY...there could be a material witness being held AND there could be a suspect who was identified.

I mean, this is how this stuff goes. It's hard to parse it, and often enough authorities want it hard to parse. (I'm not taking a swipe at authorities by saying the latter; I'm merely stating a reality. I have no idea if that's the case in this instance.)

---

Both local sources have made allusions to a possibility that someone may or may not be expected to show up at a federal court some time today. Way too sketchy to even try and parse that one.

Methadras said...

The struggle to be the first news organization to report something clearly leaves facts in the dust. All it ends up doing is making CNN and other leftard news outlets look like fools. Oh wait...

CEO-MMP said...

Roger, I have one of those electric kettle kind of pressure cookers, not the stove top. You suppose that's evil too? I haven't even unboxed it, would you recommend I contact my local constabulatory to have them come and collect it and save me from harm?

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

CEO-MMP said...

Why are you intent on turning this into Fox News vs MSNBC?


4/17/13, 1:57 PM


I agree with CEO. Why are we pretending there is a difference. NBC and Fox has straight news divisions. Sometimes they do a good job and sometimes they don't. Booth Fox and MSNBC have opinion shows. Opinions are just opinions. They are not true or not true.

Its a really weird tick of the libs.

CEO-MMP said...

WCVB tweet:

Despite all the denials, the Associated Press is standing by its story of a suspect in custody: The official who spoke to the AP did so on condition of anonymity and stood by the information even after it was disputed.

Nonapod said...

Keep in mind this is the 4chan hivemind.

In all seriousness, I wonder if crowdsourcing like that could ever be a useful tool for investigation in instances where you have an over abundance of data (images and video) to go over.

mrs. e said...

Guys, CNN is just getting into FUTURE news. Presumably at some point, they *will* arrest the suspect. Then CNN will have been right.

Roger J. said...

for the cable news networks its all about ratings--facts be damned

Sorun said...

What FOX is doing wrong is listening to the AP and CNN.

rcommal said...

There does appear to be hundreds of people gathering near the federal courthouse. We'll find out if that was the place to be. When we find out.

Methadras said...

And another thing. I don't give a shit if he/she is black, white, latino, arab, canadian, a white supremacist, the local hot dog guy, red, green, yellow, muslim, or whatever. He/she killed and injured people for no other reason to than to create chaos and panic. Let the leftards make political hay out of it. That's all they have left. Anything to fit the leftist narrative, right?

CEO-MMP said...

Media has been moved across the street from the courthouse, no explanation given.

For no suspect in custody they're sure acting guilty.

Sorun said...

BPD tweeted "no arrest" at about 2:33 but 'sources' are telling WCVB (channel 5 Boston) that a suspect is in custody.

Maybe he hasn't or won't be Mirandized. They might tie him to a stake in a field somewhere in Canada and call in a Predator drone.

Roger J. said...

CEO: I used the stove top version and it worked wonderfully--I am, however, afraid of it being declared as some version of an assault weapon and will be confiscated at some time in the near future.

CEO-MMP said...

Courthouse being evacuated. Code red being called.

WTF?

Darrell said...

The cops always play games, knowing that they have 24 hours to bring the actual charges. That way they can play the "but why do you want a lawyer?" game.

CEO-MMP said...

The Boston Federal Courthouse is being evacuated. The reason is not clear. US Marshal vans arrived with heavily armed personnel.
by Neil Ungerleider/Staff 3:07 PM

bagoh20 said...

If these guys are it, we are seeing the birth of something kind of new: Hive Surveillance. We will never be the same. Never as private again, but maybe a little safer, at least from this type attack.

Darrell said...

When the Saudi national was under guard at the hospital, he was just a potential witness. But that didn't stop thirty officers fro federal agencies going through his apartment and nearby structures. They said they didn't find or take anything, but phtogs had pictures of Feds loading black garbage bags filled to capacity into SUVs.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

bagoh20 said...
If these guys are it, we are seeing the birth of something kind of new: Hive Surveillance. We will never be the same. Never as private again, but maybe a little safer, at least from this type attack.

It won't stop suicide bombers. If I were to be a terrorist, I would choose suicide bomb instead of life in prison. Well I think that now . . . who knows what I would think in the actual situation.

CEO-MMP said...

3:10pm: A white van with a police officer clinging to the rear has pulled into the Moakley Courthouse.



Sure sounds like they're fetching in someone.

bagoh20 said...

"phtogs had pictures of Feds loading black garbage bags filled to capacity into SUVs."

That's just what they do as a service for your inconvenience. They take out your garbage for you. It's nice, I think. Often they will feed the dog, and do a load of laundry if needed.

CEO-MMP said...



If these guys are it, we are seeing the birth of something kind of new: Hive Surveillance. We will never be the same. Never as private again, but maybe a little safer, at least from this type attack.


How long until some bright person (unless they have already?) comes up with a spray on substance that can render a person's face and clothes unreadable by digital circuitry?

Michael said...

yes, let us remember the lying liars at the New York Post and Drudge and Fox who kept insisting that a Saudi National was in custody in the hospital only to find that a Saudi National was in custody in the hospital.'

MSNBC will be stricken with the news that a non-skinhead woman confessed to the killing of the prosecutor and his wife out there in Texas. Expecially after all the time they had spent speculating that white supremacists were the probable killers.

CEO-MMP said...

Reporters being moved even further back from the courthouse, bomb threat.

Michael said...

Darrell: I think you are on to something! The police stole the Saudis stuff in plain sight. Maybe when they said they didn't take anything of his they meant "permanently" take anything of his. Steel does melt under high heat by the way.

Original Mike said...

"Investigators believe they have identified a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings..."

Oh, God, I hope he's a white guy! {/sarcasm}

bagoh20 said...

"It won't stop suicide bombers."

Nope. Nothing ever will. At least you can't do that twice, unlike those who get convicted of murder, or leave Gitmo.

Michael Haz said...

Is it too soon to scratch "Swedish Lutheran" off the likely suspects list?

President-Mom-Jeans said...

I can see three helicopters over the courthouse from my office.


Original Mike said...

"I think this does illustrate that you can kill and maim a lot of people without using an 'assault rifle"."

We've been talking about getting a pressure cooker. Maybe I should run out and buy one before the left bans them.

Rocco said...

Roger J:
We will have to ask people you cook for if your stovetop cooker is a Weapon of Mass Destruction or not.

CEO-MMP said...

News helicopters or evil black ones, PMJ?

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Can't tell if they are news or police.

Michael said...

A pressure cooker is an excellent place to hide a pistol.

C Stanley said...

Could the false report of arrest have been disinformation?

CEO-MMP said...

Some judges are going back in the courthouse.

Who'd wanna blow up a lawyer anyway?

AprilApple said...

Boston Massacre parallels. Nice job by Col. Allen West.

CEO-MMP said...

My trackmenot misinformation bar has been stuck on "jenna bush hager" all afternoon. Creeping me out a little.

Roger J. said...

Rocco: no reports of gastic disturbances yet--so I may be OK

Clyde said...

Inga, if MSNBC told me that the sun had risen in the east, I'd look out my window to verify it for myself.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Anyone who wants to get a head start on writing the eventual Assault Cooker Ban can start here, paying special attention to the "Material", "Capacity", and "Feature Keywords" lists at the left.

Inga said...

Clyde, I'm flipping through several cable channels, not staying on MSNBC or any one in particular.

CEO-MMP said...

Inga said...

Clyde, I'm flipping through several cable channels, not staying on MSNBC or any one in particular.


Monday MSNBC was the only thing you ever watched.
And the only one you ever quote.

AprilApple said...

The fact Inga fills her mind with MSNBC bullshit, and likes it! makes perfect sense to me.

AprilApple said...

The fact Inga fills her mind with MSNBC bullshit, and likes it! makes perfect sense to me.

Inga said...

Because CEO they are usually the most accurate, as they were on Monday, as they have been today.

CEO-MMP said...

Sources say the courthouse may be closed for hours so if there's a suspect he may have to go somewhere else.


Imagine that.

Roger J. said...

CEO: its clearly the sequester thing

Inga said...

April, for someone who listens and quotes Limbaugh, I wouldn't be so cocky if I were you. :)

CEO-MMP said...

You sure do like pitching batting practice, don't you?

I'm still waiting for you to tell us when you've ever read me say I watch Fox News btw.

chickelit said...

AprilApple said...
The fact Inga fills her mind with MSNBC bullshit, and likes it! makes perfect sense to me.

The Inga Zone

Inga said...

No CEO, you've been fairly accurate except when you said the cell service was being shut off, who did you quote?

campy said...

They don't just give you the news, they tell what to think about it too.

CEO-MMP said...

Inga said...

April, for someone who listens and quotes Limbaugh, I wouldn't be so cocky if I were you. :)


Funny thing is that Limbaugh has more people devoted to listening to him just to catch him in a mistake than MSNBC has total daily viewers.

Think about that for a moment.

CEO-MMP said...

Kelley Tuthill reports that court personnel were preparing a courtroom for some kind of appearance.

WCVB twitter just now.

Inga said...

Chickie!! Oh wow, I'm honored, honestly:) I was a bit jealous when Edutcher had one and not me.

Roger J. said...

although I do not have a TV nor do I listen to Rush Limbaugh, I suggest if I wanted opinion, I would listen Rush Limbaugh--If I want news I will read the WSJ or CSM.

Colonel Angus said...

Either the media is making stuff up as they go or the law enforcement 'sources' they are getting info from are morons.

Or C) all of the above



CEO-MMP said...

Inga said...

No CEO, you've been fairly accurate except when you said the cell service was being shut off, who did you quote?


I think I was saying that the AP was reporting cell coverage had been cut and I didn't believe it because I was looking at live pictures of people on cell phones.

And as it turned out, cell coverage was indeed not cut off, the AP was wrong.

???


hey Ings, we gonna roll around in the mud again later?

Lyle said...

What if the Islamic Republic of Iran is behind the bombings?

Lyle said...

What if the Islamic Republic of Iran is behind the bombings?

Darrell said...

Michael, I just hate being lied to by law enforcement that thinks that everyone is stupid but them. Actually they divide the world into cops, perps, and future perps.

And fuck you, asshole. Seeing pictures and telling about it isn't exactly conspiracy stuff. Most conspiracy stuff is the result of cops/Feds lying about shit--shit that is immaterial. But pics, etc., show it to be lies and that fuels the bullshit.

Inga said...
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creeley23 said...

And now Obama got a ricin letter.

Original Mike said...

"Inga, if MSNBC told me that the sun had risen in the east, I'd look out my window to verify it for myself."

The New York Times once reported, in an article on solar power, that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

I kid you not.

Inga said...

CEO, only IF you're nice to me.

AprilApple said...

Inga dear - When have I ever quoted Limbaugh? Not that quoting Limbaugh is a bad thing, but I don't recall ever actually quoting him.

Limbaugh is commentary.
MSNBC calls itself "news".
Big dif.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Inga said...
No CEO, you've been fairly accurate except when you said the cell service was being shut off, who did you quote?

4/17/13, 2:39 PM

That was an AP report. They walked it back later in the day.

Darrell said...

The police tactical units did bring out their cell jammers, so it wasn't exactly wrong information. It didn't happen at the cell phone compay level, and people away from the jammers weren't blocked.

Cedarford said...

What are the chances that the pressure cooker bombs used, or could have used evil 15 round ammo clips and assault weapons components as the shrapnel part inside the bombs?

And have we asked The Children! or the Victim Families with absolute moral authority - what we should about that?

CEO-MMP said...

Inga said...

CEO, only IF you're nice to me.



And here I thought you liked it rough.

AprilApple said...

chickelit - lol.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Inga said...

April, for someone who listens and quotes Limbaugh, I wouldn't be so cocky if I were you

Seriously Inga, why don't you listen to Rush or Foxnews? By being here you show yourself to be open to alternate thoughts and ideas. Listen to them for a few months and make up your own mind.

Too many of my friends (on the left and right) shut themselves up into a coccoon.

rcommal said...

I just read a note from the 21-year-old son of a family I've known personally since 1975 who ran the marathon Monday and finished about minutes before the blast. He noted that, indeed, cell phones were cut off for a while.

Make of that what you will.

CEO-MMP said...

Darrell said...

The police tactical units did bring out their cell jammers, so it wasn't exactly wrong information. It didn't happen at the cell phone compay level, and people away from the jammers weren't blocked.

The reports I was hearing and reading said the cell companies had cut service, so that was in fact wrong information.

How far do those jammers work though, do you know?

I saw people a block away from the scene on phones, and we had a commenter here who was at work about 2 blocks over who had coverage.

Inga said...

Bill I used to listen to Rush everyday, it only made me more of a liberal.

Cedarford said...

I mean, if you have 3 lbs of C4 and surround that with 15 lbs of flash suppressors, bayonet mounts, bipods, and say twenty 15 round clips and set it off, You Could Kill or Maim Hundreds!!

Whereas a bomb using 20 ten-round loaded clips as shrapnel would hurt less children!

CEO-MMP said...

I can't make the Inga Zone load.

I'm sure there's a joke or something there.

rcommal said...

That's pretty much what makes sense, Darrell.

Inga said...

Darrell, yes that was Widmerpool, in the Prudential building.

Darrell said...

I would assume the police had multiple cell jammers--around each location where they were defusing bombs (five of them, according to reports). The range isn't very great, so it depends on how many were out there.

rcommal said...

From the note, it seems that phones could be used, then they couldn't. Then later they could. Given that the guy was also talking about moving around quite a bit, the jammers explanation would seem reasonable and in accordance with conflicting reports from ordinary people in the area.

Maybe one of those "which part of the elephant is being touched" sort of situations... .

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Inga said...
Bill I used to listen to Rush everyday, it only made me more of a liberal.

4/17/13, 2:50 PM

I meant with an open mind. If you had listened with an open mind you would not have responded that way. You would have said something "I didn't agree with most of his stuff but he can be witty and entertaining sometimes."

CEO-MMP said...

I used to watch Maddow fairly often, until she took her hard left turn into utter smugness (I can stand a lot of stuff, but smug makes me almost homicidal) and, except for the sheer nutbaggery of him, I kind of admire Olbermann. I mean, KO of a few years ago. Not the complete horse's ass we have now.

I know a guy who was working there at the time O'Reilly and Olbermann started, and he confirmed for me that it really was kind of a toss up who'd do what, that Olbermann almost went down the conservative road and became the Fox News hero.

How hilarious would that be?

I hate O'Reilly.

jimbino said...

The dark-skinned guy should have dressed as a Mohawk Indian.

Colonel Angus said...

Bill I used to listen to Rush everyday, it only made me more of a liberal.

Understandable. I've used to regularly listen to Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz who solidified my conservative viewpoint.

Matthews is especially enjoyable to watch especially when he gets on one of his 'aren't white people horrible' rants. Self loathing at its finest.

edutcher said...

The She Devil of the SS is just flipping, hoping MSLSD is right for once.

EMD said...

Because CEO they are usually the most accurate, as they were on Monday, as they have been today.

Frankly, Al Jazeera is more accurate than most domestic cable news organizations. At least on international news, which is stunning.

EMD said...

I kind of admire Olbermann. I mean, KO of a few years ago. Not the complete horse's ass we have now.

Olbermann's MLB blog was really good. I don't know if he's been doing it this year.

Inga said...

EdBUTCHER, that was actually kind of funny.

AllenS said...

What we're witnessing is major media failure.

CEO-MMP said...

Does it get any worse than Special Ed? Does he still have a show or did they give it to that kid who looks like Rachel?

Inga said...

Hannity gives me acid reflux.

Original Mike said...

"Matthews is especially enjoyable to watch especially when he gets on one of his 'aren't white people horrible' rants. Self loathing at its finest."

Yeah, but cleaning the spittle off the inside of the TV screen is damn difficult.

CEO-MMP said...

Inga said...

Hannity gives me acid reflux.

LOL. At least Hannity really believes what he's saying though. That's the best I can come up with.

Okay, now tell us how you hate Special Ed, or how Rachel makes you nauseous. C'mon...you can do it!

Patrick said...

yes that was Widmerpool, in the Prudential building

With the candlestick.

Original Mike said...

Hannity is a dofus.

Original Mike said...

"Okay, now tell us how you hate Special Ed, or how Rachel makes you nauseous. C'mon...you can do it!"

Bet she can't.

CEO-MMP said...

No bet, Mike. Although if we get edbutcher involved, I bet she would just to spite him.

Colonel Angus said...

Yeah, but cleaning the spittle off the inside of the TV screen is damn difficult.

Im convinced he takes a couple nips of the bottle pre show because there are times I swear he's just short of blitzed.

edutcher said...

Looks like Carl Levin and Jeff Flake may have got ricin packages.

DC, as usual, panics.

Inga said...

I admit it, I love her.

AprilApple said...

I don't think there's anything more creepy and disgusting than MSNBC. The lies and half-truths, the agenda pushing, the speculation-as-news, the leg tingling. It's all so gross.

Original Mike said...

"Looks like Carl Levin and Jeff Flake may have got ricin packages."

Roger Wicker got one yesterday.

Inga said...

Come'on April, admit it Rush makes your apples bake.

Original Mike said...

"I don't think there's anything more creepy and disgusting than MSNBC."

I go there to find out what the loony left is saying, but I find I can't stay long.

Larry Coryell said...

Look around the web for the surveillance video's. One guy who has a big black pack back, which looks like the one found with one of the bombs, then later doesn't have, is distinctly Middle Eastern looking. OTOH a guy holding a backpack, which looks like the one found with the other bomb, is a disheveled looking white guy. So maybe everyone can get their 'wish' as to the color of the attackers.

The media just doesn't know anything significant yet for sure, but feels compelled to report continuously. I really don't think they've done such a terrible job given the situation their managements put them in (none has the courage at a management level to just say after 10 minutes each night, 'that's all we know about this story that's really important, now we'll fill you in on the earthquake in Iran', or whatever)

Darrell said...

Careful, Inga.
AprilApple is great.

Inga said...

Oooooo Darrell, what ya gonna do? I'll call CEO to come and kick your ass, be careful.

Colonel Angus said...

Jeff Flake is a hard core fiscal conservative whose vote against TARP won him big points with opponents of massive government spending.

Larry Coryell said...

Look around the web for the surveillance video stills. One guy who has a big black back pack that appears to be one of the two of which remnants were found, then later doesn't have it, is of distinctly Middle Eastern appearance. But a disheveled looking white guy is carrying in front of him a back pack which looks like the remains of the other one found. So maybe everyone will get their 'wish' as to the color of the attackers.
I don't think the major media has done such a bad job on this story, given the stupid constraint their managements impose on them. They don't have enough actually new and important information to fill the vast quantities of time they devote to stories like this, but none of the managements have the courage to just cut it short and cover something else. But I think they've generally resisted the temptation to go into nonsensical speculation, certainly to compared to Everyman on the internet at least.

Darrell said...

He's welcome to try, but I was thinking about all your golden shower fantasies. I think your neighbors have tapes of you jilling off to Chris Matthews and Keith O.

Darrell said...

And since you used to post as shiloh as well until AA made you stop, you could also tell us about all those trips over the equator on US Navy vessels.

Inga said...

Darrell, thats sick, I don't think that will make you look more manly in April Apple's eye.

This silliness always happens in these threads when the news lags.

Larry Coryell said...

Look around the web for the surveillance video's. One guy who has a big black pack back, which looks like the one found with one of the bombs, then later doesn't have, is distinctly Middle Eastern looking. OTOH a guy holding a backpack, which looks like the one found with the other bomb, is a disheveled looking white guy. So maybe everyone can get their 'wish' as to the color of the attackers.

The media just doesn't know anything significant yet for sure, but feels compelled to report continuously. I really don't think they've done such a terrible job given the situation their managements put them in (none has the courage at a management level to just say after 10 minutes each night, 'that's all we know about this story that's really important, now we'll fill you in on the earthquake in Iran', or whatever)

AprilApple said...
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Inga said...

"And since you used to post as shiloh as well until AA made you stop, you could also tell us about all those trips over the equator on US Navy vessels."

4/17/13, 3:19 PM

You think I'm Shiloh? Bwahahahahahaha! I'm sorry but I have lady parts.

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