February 28, 2013

Apparently, people hate Anne Hathaway.

But why?

Psychology professor says:  "When times are good we prefer actresses with rounder faces...They convey these ideas of fun and youth."

But Hathaway hath a narrow face, which "suggests she would be popular when times are more challenging... As the economy improves, Hathaway...  may just be a reminder of bad times."

The haters have been chided by Lena Dunham (of "Girls" fame):
"Ladies: Anne Hathaway is a feminist and she has amazing teeth. Let's save our bad attitudes for the ones who aren't advancing the cause," Dunham tweeted.
I hope you can tell that's sarcasm. (Dunham is a genius. Interpret her words accordingly.)

I haven't been reading the anti-Hathaway scribblings (and I've never seen Hathaway in anything), but I would simply assume that women reject idealization of someone that thin.

155 comments:

traditionalguy said...

I suspect that Ann Hathaway is too smart, too athletic, and too smooth to be allowed to live by other women.

Shouting Thomas said...

I didn't even know who she was till she did the gratuitous beaver shot for PR.

I'm in favor of gratuitous beaver shots, but not the creepy feminist babbling afterward.

And, it wasn't even that good of a beaver shot.

So, I hate her.

madAsHell said...

Dunham is a genius.

Just another fat chick with tattoos.

Mitchell the Bat said...

The sad thing about Anne Hathaway is she doesn't know she's a robot.

Bob R said...

That's born rich and privileged, fat chick with tattoos to you!

EDH said...

I would simply assume that women reject idealization of someone that thin.

With a full set of knockers. Can't forget the knockers.

OT: So, was that affair with the older guy a dream episode on "Girls"? The last few episodes seem unconnected from each other.

Lem said...

If Hathaway wants it to stop, all she has to do is take some time off in rehab.

ricpic said...

"As the economy improves" ha ha ha ha ha.

Shouting Thomas said...

I'm not getting the economy bit.

Does that mean that we like fat bottomed girls when boom times hit?

Fat bottomed girls really make the world go 'round?

AprilApple said...

Dunham is a genius.

That's sarcasm, right?

sonicfrog said...

So I guess the torch has been passed from Sarah Jessica Parker?

John said...

Women do tend to hate other women who are thin and have big tits. See e.g. the nearly pathological hatred many women have of Jennifer Love Hewitt.

In Hathaway's case there is some of that going on. But I think also it is the fact that she is a fair actress at best and yet seems to get all kinds of good parts and be completely over exposed. Nothing earns scorn like undeserved success.

Patrick said...

Dunham is a genius.

That's sarcasm, right?


Althouse is a genius. Interpret her words accordingly. ;)

John said...

If Dunham is a genius, it is unintentional in the way Chance in Being There was a genius. I think she actually means what she says and has no idea what brilliant satire and sarcasm her views actually are.

Lem said...

Idea for a photoshop.

Ann Hathaway Eyes and Julia Roberts Lips.

Ctmom4 said...

It has nothing to do with her being thin. And, she doesn't have big boobs! ( Did you see the pink dress?) She loves showing them off, though. The article explains why people hate her. Even in a crowd of Hollywood phonies, she stands out as phonier than the rest. And the "beaver shot" ST refers to - like she totally didn't know that climbing out of a limo in a skin tight dress slit up to her behind the world would see she wasn't wearing underwear! Right.

garage mahal said...

I hope you can tell that's sarcasm

Oh no. That was clearly a threat.

Bob Ellison said...

"thin" is a virtue. That's weird.

phx said...

It has nothing to do with her being thin. And, she doesn't have big boobs! ( Did you see the pink dress?) She loves showing them off, though. The article explains why people hate her. Even in a crowd of Hollywood phonies, she stands out as phonier than the rest. And the "beaver shot" ST refers to - like she totally didn't know that climbing out of a limo in a skin tight dress slit up to her behind the world would see she wasn't wearing underwear! Right.

Aren't there any Supreme Court Justices or Democratic congress critters you should be getting all judgy judgy about?

John said...

CTmom4,

Her boobs are smaller than they once were thanks to the weirdos who run Hollywood making her starve herself. But if you see her in a 2005 movie called Havoc, where she does extensive nude scenes before she got so thin, she has a solid C if not D cup breasts. She isn't quite Jennifer Love Hewitt territory, but had a great chest before she starved herself.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

I don't pay much attention to current actors or actresses....or movies.....So like many others I wasn't aware of Hathaway.

However, this post about Ann Hathaway is the perfect opportunity to link to this hilarious clip of Ann Hathaway spoofing Les Miserable. I LOLed especially about half way through.

I wish we could watch without the damned gratuitous commercial in the beginning.....grrrr,

Lem said...

Some "hate" samples.

The reason I hate Anne Hathaway is that she's an annoying combination of Fishsticks Paltrow and Julia Roberts. Pretentious, self-aggrandizing twat who should remember that she was in Havoc. THAT has to be her most defining role. She can win whatever accolades, but to me, she'll always be that white bread girl trying to act like a chola. That was supposed to be a comedy, right?
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I will never understand why people think this Steve Buscemi eyed twat is pretty. Half your face looks like it's melting, seriously wtf?
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Her eyes remind me of a 3-toed sloth's:

Blair said...

I dislike her. My reasoning is that there is nothing about her which is particularly distinctive. She's moderately attractive, but not particularly stunning. She can act, but she's not a great actor. She doesn't seem to have any great personality or intellect. There is nothing, in other words, which should suggest to us that this woman should be famous or successful. And yet she is. Why?! It's the unfairness of all that which causes people to despise her. And I don't blame them.

Synova said...

I don't have any negative feelings toward Hathaway. And I've known who she was since the Princess Diaries, (and I never know who actors are, because I don't pay attention), which was a very cute movie and Hathaway is an excellent comedic actress... slap-stick physical comedy even.

If she's getting a lot of hate from the cool kids these days it's probably because she failed to know her place and is pretending to be a "real" actress and take on serious roles that the "real" actresses were supposed to get.

When she got the role of cat woman in the last batman there was a bit of fuss because she wasn't supposed to be a sex-pot actress or an action-thriller actress and then she had the gall to do Les Mis.

Yes, Lena, she's a "feminist" and I don't really care. She also is foolish when it comes to men. Ditz, even. And her dress (with the darts) was amazing and she was classically elegant and glamorous. Is she too thin? Yes. But if actresses got hated for that, Keira Knightly and a handful of others would be reviled by those same cool kids.

But really, that's about all Ms. Knightly has, so it doesn't pile on insult to injury in the same way.

Larry J said...

traditionalguy said...
I suspect that Ann Hathaway is too smart, too athletic, and too smooth to be allowed to live by other women.


Why does it seem that so many women are doomed to live the rest of their lives filled with the petty hatreds and drama of middle school?

John said...

Synova,

As I said above, people think she is a fair actress unworthy of the parts and success she has had. And nothing brings out scorn like perceived undeserved success.

Nomennovum said...

"I suspect that Ann Hathaway is too smart ...."

Smart? Not so much. Just a hot woman controlled by her emotions.

She fell in love with a tall, dark, and handsome Italian scam artist who stole millions, Raffaello Follieri. She didn't dump him until he was on his way to jail. She's no smarter than Rhihanna or any uneducated piece of trailer-park trash.

Nomennovum said...

"Why does it seem that so many women are doomed to live the rest of their lives filled with the petty hatreds and drama of middle school?"

DNA.

edutcher said...

As my mother always said, women hate other women a lot more than men hate other men.

The big reason I was always skeptical of the whole Feminist Sisterhood scam.

Ann Althouse said...

Dunham is a genius.

Exactly how many people watch her show?

William said...

I've seen Jennifer Lawrence on a couple of talk shows. She seems unaffected, funny, and real. She's very likeable. On the talk shows, Anne Hathwaway is poised and very pretty, but her appearances don't have much velocity or impact.......Spencer Tracy seemed like a man of simple decency and Katherine Hepburn a woman of flinty independence. In reality, he was an abusive drunk, and she was his doormat. Movie stars are good at pretending to be who want them to be, and, just enough to keep you guessing, sometimes they are. Jimmy Stewart, for example, was really Jimmy Stewart.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Yes. But if actresses got hated for that, Keira Knightly and a handful of others would be reviled by those same cool kids.

Audrey Hepburn was as thin as Hathaway. (They
look similar
to me) I don't think she was reviled for her thinness. Instead I believe they came up with all sorts of cute adjectives...like fey, pixie etc. Plus times were pretty good back in the 50's so the thin versus fuller face in bad times/good times rule doesn't seem to apply.

Pastafarian said...

I agree with John: Many women hate other women when they have large boobs and a small waist.

Combine this with the soft, feminine, nice-girl image she's crafted, and that's enough to set someone like Lena Dunham off.

Genius? Like totally, fer sure. Like, everyone moderately successful in show business is like totally a genius or something.

Hedy Lamarr was a genius. Lena Dunham is a fat hipster high-functioning retard that polishes all the right apples.

rhhardin said...

I liked Hathaway in the Get Smart dvd. She played the competent feminist vs male nicely.

That's the only place I've seen her.

Synova said...

John, I think that people think she's a second-rate actress, but I think that they are profoundly wrong about that. I didn't see her Les Mis thing, but did she do poorly? She was perfect in Batman... not overshadowed by the star power of Christian Bale at all. Are people upset because she's not sticking to movies where she gets the laughs by falling on her butt or face and contemplating her uni-brow?

Pastafarian said...

Hepburn and Knightly didn't have big boobs or a soft feminine persona.

Renee said...

This is the one who forgot to wear underwear, and someone unintentionally caught it on their camera.

Usually undergarments go on first, so how does one forget to put it one. I don't know. Unless you're three years old, and just learning how to dress yourself.

John said...

Are people upset because she's not sticking to movies where she gets the laughs by falling on her butt or face and contemplating her uni-brow?

Yes. They don't think she is deserving of the success she has achieved.

edutcher said...

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Yes. But if actresses got hated for that, Keira Knightly and a handful of others would be reviled by those same cool kids.

Audrey Hepburn was as thin as Hathaway. (They
look similar to me) I don't think she was reviled for her thinness. Instead I believe they came up with all sorts of cute adjectives...like fey, pixie etc.


The word gamin was used a couple times, too. She was a child-woman (physically) who wasn't a nympho or a ditz, but came across as sophisticated, but not snobbish or affected.

She could also act, but they insisted on putting her in those God-awful outfits dreamed up by people like St Laurent and Givenchy (consider the opening scenes in "Charade").

Nomennovum said...

"Usually undergarments go on first, so how does one forget to put it one?"

Humans are very forgetful it seems. Many women I've dated have whispered to me (usually in public) that they "forgot" to put on their panties. God bless women's forgetfulness; the forgetful ones are the most fun.

rana said...

I thought Anne Hathaway was cute and likeable in her early movie roles. Then, she apparently found out that if she dissed the Catholic Church, joined an OWS protest, and proclaimed that cutting her hair made her look like her gay brother, she would gain credibility with the Hollywood liberal set and be seen as a "serious" actress. That's when the active dislike began.

Ivy said...

She flashes her crotch to the media - then blames them. She pretends to show her nipples at the oscars!
She says all manor of leftist propaganda and like most of those Hollywood princesses doesn't practice what she preaches.

What's to like?

Ivy said...

**manner

Tibore said...

Well, I'm no longer a big fan of hers because of her rips on the Catholic Church. But that doesn't mean I hate her (I'll even go so far as to say she's got cause to hate the Church, though I wish she'd keep it at intellectual disagreement instead of viscerally emotional). And I really, really don't get the hate that's been flowing lately. It seems like it's a combination of "Tear Down The Hero/Heroine" (as recently as Dark Knight Rises she was being praised and adored), "Your 15 Minutes Are Up", and "We Perceive You Now As Stuck Up". During the Oscars, I was astounded by the hatred flowing about her dress (wasn't great, but my God, it wasn't hideous or scorn-worthy either) to her speech (breathy emotionalism is apparently contrived and fake, at least to the internet commentariat). Earlier in her career, both would've been praised, but now it and everything else has turned into hate.

It bugs me. I have a disagreement on what I think are fair, intellectual grounds. But all the Twitterati and internet peanut gallery denizens are hating her for the most superficial of reasons. And that bothers me. Dislike for a substantial reason, please, not just because you think it's time for a new ingenue. And ask yourselves, internet denizens spewing hate, whether you truly have a firm basis for your venom or if she's just a target of convenience for your projection.

Again: I'm not a big fan anymore because she wouldn't be a fan or friend of me due to my Catholicism. But I do not hate her. Nor do I think that's a good excuse for the bile that's been flowing on the 'net about her.

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Misinforminimalism said...

Dunham is a genius.

Jeff Dunham?

Stephen A. Meigs said...

Knowing nothing about her, I'd say a possibility is her looks clash with the image people have of Audrey Hepburn, like two colors that are similar in wrong way.

Nomennovum said...

"She flashes her crotch to the media - then blames them. She pretends to show her nipples at the oscars!
She says all manor of leftist propaganda and like most of those Hollywood princesses doesn't practice what she preaches.

What's to like?"


I see nothing not to like about Hathaway in the first two sentences of yours. Regarding blaming the media ... well blaming someone else is pro forma.

Synova said...

"Jeff Dunham?"

Heh. ;-)

Though he gets points off for demanding his stuff be taken off of You Tube.

elkh1 said...

C'mon, her eyes are too huge, her nostrils are too large, her mouth is too wide, for that narrow face.

Every feature on its own is ok, but they don't fit together. She, if not ugly, is not a beauty.

Nomennovum said...

"C'mon, her eyes are too huge, her nostrils are too large, her mouth is too wide, for that narrow face."

You forgot about her pointy elbows.

Econophile said...

traditionalguy said...
I suspect that Ann Hathaway is too smart, too athletic, and too smooth to be allowed to live by other women.

I don't know about this, traditionalguy. I like Hathaway much more than the homely Dunham.

I understand that some fraction of women are crazy jealous, but I genuinely appreciate pretty women and actually find that they are nicer. I think more women feel the way I do, so I must roll my eyes hearing comments like yours.

What are your thoughts on Ben Affleck? If you dislike him because he's an idiot, would you be frustrated hearing some woman say "Nooo, you just don't like him because he's better looking than you and you are jealous."?

Mitch H. said...

She was fun in The Dark Knight Rises, about the only thing fun in that movie, which was kind of portentous and leaden and overlong. I'm not sure if I've seen her in anything else, I don't watch a lot of Hollywood material these days...



Dunham is a genius.

Jeff Dunham?


Hah. Is he the one we're supposed to despise because his ethnic puppet humor is supposedly racist? I seem to remember a blowhard yelling about that, every time the subject came up.

Renee said...

We make appreciate her ability to act, but why should we like her?

Do actors need to be liked, if they're that good anyways. Only average/bad actors need public relations to get people to buy a ticket for their movie.

She's talented enough to be a jerk, many of us can never afford such a perk in life.

Ann Althouse said...

"Exactly how many people watch her show?"

I watch and rematch every episode. I am personally vouching for her genius. It is not sarcasm.

ed said...

@ Althouse

"I hope you can tell that's sarcasm. (Dunham is a genius. Interpret her words accordingly.)"

Lena Dunham is a "genius"? A sarcastic tweet is "genius"?

Your threshold for "genius" seems a bit low.

and ...

"I haven't been reading the anti-Hathaway scribblings (and I've never seen Hathaway in anything), but I would simply assume that women reject idealization of someone that thin."

Really?

Julie C said...

I mentioned my dislike for Anne Hathaway back in the pink Prada dress discussion. She's a fine actress - she was good in Rachel Getting Married, and The Devil Wears Prada is one of my guilty pleasures. But her little squeaky "it came true!" comment when she walked up to get her Oscar was incredibly phony. And it came on the heels of a number of phony moments as she gathered up all her awards prior to the Oscars.

Backstage after the Oscars, one reporter obligingly asked, "what did you mean by 'it came true'?" and of course she did the whole-gulp- step back- gulp- start crying routine, just as I'm sure she'd rehearsed a million times. Blah.

I don't dislike her because she's thin - I'm thin and I love thin. My favorite thin person is Victoria Beckham. Hah! Lena Dunham has my respect for the way she handled Howard Stern.

dreams said...

I've never really thought she looked that good but I don't understand all her critics. It seems like she wants to be liked but maybe tries too hard and given the unfair treatment of her in my opinion causes me to view her more favorably.

chrisnavin.com said...

Sometimes, I think feminism is as much about including the inevitable gossiping and infighting many women engage in into more and more areas of the public square.

Freedom is next.

Methadras said...

I think Hathaway haters have gotten that way is because they remember her as a sweet, innocent screen urchin and has now leap frogged into projects that have turned her into a pretentious artsy fartsy theater bitch.

gregq said...

"I watch and rematch every episode. I am personally vouching for her genius. It is not sarcasm."

Well, I'd love for you to explain how Lena's comment is anything other than "hey, screw principles, we only find certain characteristics bad when we don't like the politics of the person who has those characteristics."

IOW, she's a thug, and scum.

elkh1 said...

Econophile, Ben Affleck has no neck!

elkh1 said...

Althouse: "I hope you can tell that's sarcasm. (Dunham is a genius. Interpret her words accordingly.)"

I hope you can tell that's sarcasm. (Althouse is a genius. Interpret her words accordingly.)

chrisnavin.com said...

Methadras:

I first took notice of Hathaway when she played Armande, the French epileptic street-orphan in "Broken WIndows, Broken Hearts" a romanticized off-Broadway attack on James Q Wilson's ideas.

She was the little street-urchin who could.

dreams said...

As to Lena Dunham, there is a reason people have to be at least 35 years old to become president. When Lena Dunham is lecturing us about politics or whatever, we should keep in mind that she is young and dumb regardless of her supposed genius.

Petunia said...

Lena Dunham's not a genius. She's an annoying, pretentious hipster who got where she is mostly because of connections through her parents, the low threshold for fame these days, and her willingness to be filmed naked in so many episodes of the execrable "Girls". (Yes, I have watched the show. And it's awful.)

Anne Hathaway is a decent actress and a very attractive woman. What's been so annoying about her lately is her outright campaigning for the Oscar, complete with multiple incidents of false humility; lame attempts to identify with the unemployed by claiming she was "unemployed" between movies for which she, like many other actors, is grossly overpaid; and a gratuitous, intentional crotch shot that she blamed on everyone but herself.

Ann Althouse said...

"Yes, I have watched the show. And it's awful."

Watch the "It's a shame about Ray" episode. Watch it without having all your resistance blocking your view. Maybe watch it twice. Watch it on the theory that it is genius. That's the exercise I'd ask you to go through. I could spell out my reasons for thinking what I think, but I haven't done that.

Nonapod said...

Dunham may be a genius, I know practically nothing about her and I'm sure I'd be a poor judge in any case. But I dislike the word "genius", people throw it around too liberally these days. The term should really be reserved for rare individuals like Isaac Newton and Srinivasa Ramanujan in my opinion.

Amartel said...

The psychology theory is dopey and seems to exist soley to serve as a vehicle for the phrase "as the economy improves." The economy is not improved so why the current Hathaway "hatred?" Wouldn't her thin-facedness be perfect for these challenging economic times?

Also, why such dramatic extremes when talking about actresses? They're just actresses. Hate? Genius? Actors and actresses get famous then they have to stay famous so stories are invented, sometimes based upon reality, to keep them in the current discussion. They are positioned in the pecking order. Frequently they are "hated" so they can "redeem" themselves and have a "comeback." This stuff used to happen organically but now it's much more planned and manufactured. Hathaway's got an Oscar so she's in the pantheon. She'll be fine, she'll return.

Blue@9 said...

Heh, I had no idea women held such hate for Hathaway. Ima guess 99% of her detractors are fatter and uglier (which I'm sure is completely irrelevant).

That article is illuminating. This popped out:

"But be honest. She kind of bugs you, doesn't she?"

It's a weird plea, this little wink. Reminds me of veiled appeals to racism. These n****rs are so dumb, dontcha think?

But she doesn't bug me. I've never gotten a phoniness vibe from her, but even if she does emanate one, is that supposed to be exceptional for a Hollywood actress?

This is just another episode in the grand drama of Women-With-Pens-Rationalize-Hatred-Against-Other-Women-Who-Are-Smarter-Richer-Skinnier-Prettier-Or-More-Successful. You don't think that's real? Go to a feminist site like XX and start ragging on "blonde barbies" or "fake women" or "anorexic sorority bitches"-- you'll be lauded because these are the acceptable prejudices.

Note the recent innovation in speech and culture regarding "real women."
One of the more popular Facebook links going around regards a nude photo exhibition entitled "The Nu Project: Nude Photography That Showcases Real Women." Get it? Thin and beautiful women aren't real women, so feel free to insult them with your batshit crazy rage.


mccullough said...

She's been good in the movies I've seen her in.

And she's good looking.

Any hate is girl-on-girl. That's why Hillary will never be President. Enough women will vote against her.

I Callahan said...

That's when the active dislike began.

And that's when she started getting the bigger parts. Not coincidentally.

Jim said...

12:59. +1 I have nothing to add other than when I found out people hate Anne and love Lena, it only makes me an Anne fan (and an Ann fan).

wyo sis said...

Genius must be very narrowly defined for it to apply in Dunham's case. By the way I define her "genius" yes she has claim to genius when it comes to feminism.

Rabel said...

I feel a compelling need to come to the defense of Miss Hathaway's honor. A stunningly beautiful woman who, in my mind, can do no wrong.

But, I'm weak that way.

As to the breast size question, I've done a little research:
And the results are conclusive.

In the matter of overall hotness:
You be the judge.

Astro said...

I watched the first 6 episodes of 'Girls' to see what all the fuss was about. My impression is that Dunham wants to be thought of as the spokesperson for her generation, and HBO obliged. Aside from the nudity and sex scenes (real? simulated?) it was a lot of 'nothing' like Seinfeld's old show.
I give Dunham credit for being clever enough to get the show on the air (giving herself access to guys for sex as a freebee in the bargain), but I wouldn't equate cleverness with genius in this case.

As for Hathaway, I like her and the 2 movies of hers I've seen, though she exhibits a bit of hypocrisy in projecting a clean-cut image along with the faux 'accidentally' exposed vulva.

Freeman Hunt said...

She's a great actress, and acting is much harder than most people think. I'm glad she's around.

Why do people hate her? Why do people decide to hate any famous stranger they've never heard anything bad about? Some people revel in irrationality. Some people revel in despising others. Yuck.

Fame that big is a curse; eventually strangers will hate you, that's how it works.

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Lydia said...

What's with the Audrey Hepburn comparison?

I'd say much more like young Liza Minnelli.

Nomennovum said...

Look, Anne Hathaway is gorgeous and she can act, but she's no genius. She doesn't have to be a genius, because she's an actress. Being a smart actor is not helpful to your career.

She says some dumb things about politics ... because she's an actress, not fucking George Will.

She lobbies for an Oscar??? What next? Will she demand more monry for her next movie?

Remember, it wasn't that long ago that actors were considered one step (up or down, I can't remember) from whores. And who hates whores (other than wives, mothers, girlfriends, and certain serial killers)?

The only people who hate her without knowing her are her competitors (other actresses and women in general -- meow!) and hopeless male omegas exhibiting a psychopathic case of sour grapes.

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TMink said...

Some people never grow past middle school. "Don't we hate her" is a favorite pastime of middle school girls.

Trey

tim maguire said...

The only movie I've seen her in (Devil Wears Prada) sucked, but my opinion of Anne Hathaway is mostly based on the fact that she was getting anti-wrinkle laser treatments before her 25th birthday.

And it's hard to respect someone like that.

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Rabel said...

Lydia,

Yes, very much so.

vbspurs said...

I, too, "hate" Anne Hathaway. I think it's the teeth. And the fact that she's phoney, unlike the refreshingly unfiltered J-Law.

Remember when she was engaged and duped by that Vatican con artist? Fishy, fishy.

vbspurs said...

Now Lena Dunham, I hate.

Nomennovum said...

AH a young Liza Minnelli?

No.

I know women are able to assess female beauty*, but I find it humorous they cannot express their assessments accurately to others.


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* Because they go out of their ways to beautify themselves for men each and everyday -- at least until they get married.

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Nomennovum said...

Remember when she was engaged and duped by that Vatican con artist? Fishy, fishy.

Yes, and 98% of all femaledom would have fallen for the guy as fast and as hard as AH.

But it's not "fishy" at all. The guy oozed charisma, charm, and good looks. You wouldn't have resisted for 30 seconds.

vbspurs said...

Did any of you watch "The Next Great Baker" on TLC? Google Gretel-Ann (Fischer) and you will see the startling resemblance to Hathaway/Minelli.

Especially Minelli

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Nomennovum said...

I think you're having difficulty seeing through the short hair, vbspurs.

Or are you just having difficulty seeing?

vbspurs said...

Novemnovum wrote:

You wouldn't have resisted for 30 seconds.

I was going to reply, "damn skimpy" or such, when I remembered that (a) I know the difference between a Papal Nuncio and a Papal Majordomo (b) "Italian real estate developer" sounds suspiciously like people who put other people in cement in Jersey.

PS: Loved Anne Hathaway in "Devil Loves Prada", too! I faithfully saw each of her movies afterwards, including the disappointing Jane Austen one. It was during the Oscars presentation, I think, that I irrevocably parted ways with Miss Hathaway. She seemed more than a little prissy next to the clearly baked James Franco.

Nomennovum said...

Hathaway is beautiful. Mannelli is a 5 on a scale of 1-10. That cook is fugly.

Nomennovum said...

"Italian real estate developer" sounds suspiciously like people who put other people in cement in Jersey.

Well, two points on this: (1)Hathaway didn't give a rat's ass about what the guy did. He was rich in her eyes becasue of the lifestyle he lived (funded, it turned out, by investors who did think is was a RE developer with Vatican ties. (2)Hedge funds and other investors, who should be a LOT smarter than some young actress, sure were fooled.

vbspurs said...

The thing is, I WANT to like Anne Hathaway, and I get upset these days that I can't. She comes off as smug, and slightly nutty (I winced when she whispered to her new Oscar statuette).

Maybe that, too, is an element of the irritation.

Nomennovum said...

She comes off as smug, and slightly nutty (I winced when she whispered to her new Oscar statuette).

Can't argue with you there, but isn't LA so full of smug that it causes you to choke?

rana said...

I don't "hate" Anne Hathaway. I dislike her for the same reason I dislike Sean Penn, George Clooney, Julia Roberts, et al. They forget that people of every stripe and political persuasion buy movie tickets. Their contempt for my sort is why I dislike them and why I will not part with my hard-earned money to see any movie in which they feature.

Aridog said...

Dunham is a genius

Genius? GENIUS? At what? Pray tell.

Bob R said...

That's born rich and privileged, fat chick with tattoos to you!

Asked & answered...thanks Bob R.

sydney said...

She's over exposed.

Nomennovum said...

She's over exposed.

The Julia Roberts Effect.

Baron Zemo said...

She is a young Jane Fonda.

What's not to hate.

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Left Bank of the Charles said...

Anne Hathaway is a lovely person and a bankable talent. Sorry haters.

Anne Hathaway was great as Cat Woman in The Dark Knight Rises and the White Queen in Alice in Wonderland, both billion dollar box office movies.

And she has carried several animated roles, so it's not just her looks. But like all the great beauties, she is a brunette.

In any case, we saw her boobs in Love and Other Drugs, and to quote Seth MacFarlane, that made us feel excited and alive.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

I, too, "hate" Anne Hathaway. I think it's the teeth.

What's wrong with her teeth? At least they seem to be her actual teeth and not a row of blindingly white Chiclets.

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O Ritmo Segundo said...

They just hate her because she comes across as a genuinely nice and unapologetically happy person.

Never underestimate the female capacity for jealousy, duplicity and manipulation.

From what I can tell, Ann Hathaway is incredibly nice, down-to-earth and gorgeous. At least, from what I can pick up on.

So yeah, I can see what American women hate about her. She is nothing like them.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Well, two points on this: (1)Hathaway didn't give a rat's ass about what the guy did. He was rich in her eyes becasue of the lifestyle he lived (funded, it turned out, by investors who did think is was a RE developer with Vatican ties. (2)Hedge funds and other investors, who should be a LOT smarter than some young actress, sure were fooled.

And yet, her husband now is nothing like that guy. Apparently some people learn. She deserves a lot of credit for that.

Many other women keep falling for the same stupid and superficial bullshit for as long as they live -- in some way, shape or form anyway. She did not.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I know women are able to assess female beauty*, but I find it humorous they cannot express their assessments accurately to others.

But the funny thing is how personalized that sense is. Most married women think that Meryl Streep and Cynthia Nixon are underappreciated beauties. Which they're really not.

So I think they elevate an androgynous or neutral sense of "strength" or apathy that translates through those faces and make that out to be the end-all-be-all. Because, as easily aggravated, married women, eager to prove that they can do it all, these women must somehow epitomize that. Physically.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Watch the "It's a shame about Ray" episode. Watch it without having all your resistance blocking your view. Maybe watch it twice. Watch it on the theory that it is genius. That's the exercise I'd ask you to go through. I could spell out my reasons for thinking what I think, but I haven't done that.

And you need not do that, either. It would be like trying to provide facts, reasoning and perspective to a mind that has resolved beforehand to not let those things penetrate its opinion.

Baron Zemo said...

Look she might be good enough for you goobers but she committed a shanda when she tried to step into the shoes of two of the greatest babes of all time.

Barbara Feldon and the one and only incomprable Julie Newmar!

She should stick with playing french waifs or something.

Maybe they can remake "Room 222" and she can rip off Karen Valentine.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I've got a theory on the Hatred of Hathaway phenomenon. It's called: Women are Horrible.

Just learned about this phenomenon today, BTW. But it's not too hard to guess at what's behind it.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

To Wong Foo. Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar.

Baron Zemo said...

Or better yet a remake of "Here Comes the Brides."

She might be able to handle the Bridget Hanley role.

Of course they could get Justin Beiber for the Bobby Sherman role and
Pamela Anderson in the Joan Blondell role.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

"Dunham is a genius."

Exactly how many people watch her show?


Lol. Poor Edutcher. ;-)

El Camino Real said...

Dunham is a genius? I'll buy a savant. But a genius?

Baron Zemo said...

Dunham is a dirty hipster twat.

The Geraldine Page of her day.

Do you know the story about Geraldine Page and the Duke when she filmed "Hondo?"

Shouting Thomas said...

I've got a theory on the Hatred of Hathaway phenomenon. It's called: Women are Horrible.

Uh, Ritmo the Retard...

The "bigotry" gambit is not your theory. It's been the standard bullshit for 50 years.

Schoolboy strikes again. This time imagines he invented one of the standard principles of PC. He's a genius!

O Ritmo Segundo said...

So can somebody translate Shouting Thomas' latest brainfart for me? I don't speak his stuffy turdflake language.

Paddy O said...

Her facial features are twice the size necessary for the size of her face.

Shouting Thomas said...

Ritmo the Retard, I don't think it could be dumbed down enough for you to grasp it.

You are just a dumb schoolboy repeatedly burping up your PC indoctrination.

You're not just a retard. You don't really have a fucking idea what you really think about anything. You're just a scared kid trying to please teacher, long after (I suspect) teacher isn't there.

If you need further translation, I'll be glad to help.

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vbspurs said...

DBQ wrote:

What's wrong with her teeth? At least they seem to be her actual teeth and not a row of blindingly white Chiclets.

They're just blindingly white piano keys! Not quite Farrah Fawcett, who was lovely, and I adored her even when she was a coke-addled has-been pooping on Joe Ezsterhas' lawn (read his memoirs).

But still too big for me.

Maybe that's it. She reminds me of Julia Roberts, who dissed me in the ladies loo at MIA. Long story.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Snorting Thomas, have you considered asking the spirits who guard Dear Myrna about whether you should confess the obsessive man-crush you have on me to her?

I swear, the internet is like a sidewalk, and Tommy is a little lost puppy who follows me around everywhere on it. He really can't stand to not walk up, sniff me, and everything else. And then he takes a poop.

Oh Myrna, we ask you for help in containing your lonely widower douche-husband. He needs your comfort and kind words! Oh well, at least he's not screaming at little girls and following around little boys.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

If you need further translation, I'll be glad to help.

The dialectizer will do well enough:

Ritmo th' Retard, ah doesn't reckon it c'd be dumbed down inough fo' yo' t'grasp it.

Yer jest a dumb skoofella repeatedly burpin' up yer PC indockrinashun.

Yer not jest a retard, cuss it all t' tarnation. Yo' doesn't pow'ful haf a fuckin' idea whut yo' pow'ful reckon about ennythin'. Yer jest a scared kid tryin' t'please skoo marm, long af'er (ah suspeck) skoo marm ain't thar.

Shouting Thomas said...

As I said, Ritmo, I much prefer it when you simply plop down into adolescent savagery. So, we're off to a good start.

I'm not going to have to sit through the half dozen posts in which you pretend to be reasonable before you just start screeching.

Congratulations, kid. This is an improvement.

Now, go on. Try to make me cry. Boo hoo!

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Don't you have anything better to do? I mean, being single doesn't mean that you don't have to have a life.

It's ok to have a life, Tommy. Really! You should try it sometime.

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Shouting Thomas said...

I'm going to be rehearsing soon, Ritmo the Retard.

This is your cue. Come on. You can do it.

I cried myself to sleep last night. Well, I didn't actually go to sleep until very late because I was out playing and I got up very early. But, I cried for several minutes.

You broke my heart, Ritmo the Retard.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I'm going to be rehearsing soon, Ritmo the Retard.

This is your cue. Come on. You can do it.

I cried myself to sleep last night. Well, I didn't actually go to sleep until very late because I was out playing and I got up very early. But, I cried for several minutes.


Is this your way of telling me (and whomever) that you think you're like really famous and talented or something?

Rusty said...

db She has an unusally wide mouth. it works for her.

Shouting Thomas said...

See, now, Ritmo the Retard, you've really hurt my feelings and I'm gonna have to go cry.

I'm gonna tell teacher on you!

Shame on you, you being a genius and all, you should know better!

O Ritmo Segundo said...

It sounds like nightly mancrush time is almost over.

Shouting Thomas said...

Ritmo the Retard,

Homophobia is one of the central obsessions of PC.

Shame on you for resorting to homophobia.

Now, be a good schoolboy, and apologize.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

So, you're admitting you have a gay crush on me, then?

Shouting Thomas said...

I'm all about gay crushes on adolescent schoolboys, Ritmo the Retard.

I like 'em young and stupid.

Put that in your little book of quotes you like to pull out from time to time. I'll expect to see that one many times in the future.

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O Ritmo Segundo said...

Wow.

Any other confessions, tonight?

I guess this is your way of topping even yourself. The only way to out-do repulsiveness is to just do it even more outrageously and more repulsively.

You truly are a man of few talents, Tommy. But let no one tell you that you're not the most repulsive thing in the internet ecosystem.

Shouting Thomas said...

Boo fucking hoo!

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Yes, you truly are a sad motherfucking thing, all right.

Craig said...

Except for Brokeback Mountain and The Devil Wears Prada she's a Princess Diaries lightweight.

Chris Althouse Cohen said...

You have seen her in something: Rachel Getting Married. Have you really not seen The Devil Wears Prada? That's an excellent movie with probably Meryl Streep's best comedic performance.

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Tibore said...

After reading the internet, and some of the commentary here, I feel obliged to defend Hathaway. Again, as I said above: I don't think she'd like me because I'd choose to defend the Catholic church that she disdains, so I should be on this bandwagon of "Down With Hathaway!" But I'm finding it hard to take all this hate seriously.

Really, what has she done to earn such spite? She didn't pull a Dixie Chicks brain fart, she didn't wax eloquent at the notion of rescuing poor African children through adoption, she never stood by a Latin American dictator and tell him what a good guy he was (fine, those were the male actors mostly, but still... the point remains)... What's she done?

A fake sounding Oscar's speech? OMG! The horror! A Hollywood personality had an insincere speech! Now she's opened the floodgates, right?

I'm really surprised the hate's surfaced around the Academy Awards, and slightly before. Does anyone recall Mo'Nique trying to charge for appearances during Oscar season in 2010? Where's the abiding hate for that?

Are there reasons to dislike her? Of course! But the level of venom is over the top. Bashar Assad's wife has been accused by the EU of having a role in human rights abuses. Yasser Arafat's wife is still beating the conspiratorial drum of an assasination of her husband. On a far, far lesser but still bad level Dr. Oz's wife has managed to take a talented, scientifically trained and brilliant medical surgeon into a pimp for unproven, new agey "medical" pseudoscience. But Hathaway's getting the bile.

Yes, I know it's ludicrous to compare two dictator's wives to an actress like Hathaway or a producer like "Mrs. Dr. Oz", but that's really my point: The extremity of the viciousness (not necessarily everyone here; I'm talking everywhere on the 'net) has gone so far over the top it warrants the mention. It's gone beyond hyperbolic into the stratosphere of the ludicrously unbelievable. Some of the language I've seen is and should only be applicable to truly vile figures. Yet it's applied to her.

And that's why I can't get onboard with all the hatred, even though I should be one of the first onboard that ship. I can't get onboard with it because it doesn't say zip about her, but instead speaks volumes about everyone else piling on. It says we're willing to be harsh for someone who's committed relatively minor sins at best. It says we're willing to ascribe negative group attributes (everything we dislike about Hollywood) to one person and then crucify her as the representative effigy of the collective when there were other people at the Oscars ceremony who were far, far more insufferable than her (who was that technical - Best Makeup? - winner who was exhorting the crowd to "support the arts". As if he weren't talking to an audience who's entire profession and reason to be there wasn't about the arts, and as if the entire night was a multi-million dollar tribue to the very thing he was agitating everyone "support"). It says we're willing to say the worst things about a person in the most superficial of ways for the most superficial of reasons. And it says we find plenty of reason to take offense at someone who doesn't even know any of us who are talking exist.

Worst of all, it says we're willing to make a towering mountain out of an unimportant molehill.

Fine, we don't like her. Hell, like I said above, I've not been a fan ever since she torched my religion. And fine, we don't like Hollywood superciliousness either. But I'd hope to God that we could come up with better reasons to dislike someone than the ones being thrown around on the web about Anne Hathaway. It's almost like no one out there cares how frivolous they sound.

Synova said...

I bought a copy of Get Smart (it was cheap, but I'd wanted to see the movie.) Maybe I should get around to watching it.

Synova said...

BTW... I figure, Dunham *may* be a genius. When I hear descriptions of her show I never figure she's portraying all the stupid as if it's a good thing. But if she is mostly skewering the idiocy of her "girl" generation, the genius must be in managing to do it in a way that doesn't get her tossed out of the liberal in-group on her tush.

Craig said...

http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=franco%20hathaway%20oscars&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fentertainment%2F2011%2F02%2F28%2Foscars-bomb-james-franco-looks-high-annae-hathaway-overcompensates%2F&ei=EiUwUdaWAcXliAenpoGgDA&usg=AFQjCNHkWexFsVl1HkGMSBA3UeRNfuo5tQ&bvm=bv.43148975,d.aGc

O Ritmo Segundo said...

BTW... I figure, Dunham *may* be a genius. When I hear descriptions of her show I never figure she's portraying all the stupid as if it's a good thing.

It's true. She portrays the common selfish female neuroses as honestly and interestingly as she can. Not in an intentionally good light, but in the most neutral and literarily informative light possible. Its popularity draws from the fact that this is a needed perspective to explore.

I've observed that it's harder to tell a good woman from a bad one, because they get to be more underhanded about things. It's a lot harder for a guy to not stand behind his word, and get called out for it if he doesn't. But social and life situations allow for women to avoid being put to the test of these sorts of displays of personal honor or dishonor, and forever cover up the times when they do occur with their feelings. It's not about who's right or who's wrong but who feels the most strong about it, whatever it is.

So Dunham sets up scenarios that allow one to see not only the credible absurdity of life that but a platform for discussing the motivations that lead to them and their resolution or worsened complication.

No other work of art has done this, so far as I'm aware. I find it incredibly timely, informative and honest. This way of looking at things is long overdue.

shirley elizabeth said...

Hathaways' teeth were too good for Les Mis. That was a big thing that bugged me through the entire movie. They put nasty colors all over the actors' teeth, but they were still all perfectly filled and straight. And it was so noticeable with all of those close-up face shots.

rsb said...

That thin. - that's rich.

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