December 25, 2012

"The governor knew what he had to do. He confiscated their sports equipment..."

"... telling them that if they insisted on celebrating Christmas as a 'matter of devotion' they could do so privately at home, 'but there should be no gaming or reveling in the streets.'"

15 comments:

Mogget said...

I quite like Hassan's book, _The Right to be Wrong_.

DADvocate said...

Others seek to paper over the nation's diversity of traditions by insisting on a homogenized, religion-free culture.

Amazingly, these are the same people perpetually clucking about the virtues of diversity.

edutcher said...

Nothing's changed.

We're supposed to be in devotions to the Messiah these days, too.

YoungHegelian said...

Let's not shoehorn colonial Massachusetts Calvinism into the modern secular issues with the public place of religion in a democracy.

The Calvinists were all for religion in the public square. Indeed, they had trouble understanding what else a polity could possibly be founded upon other than a shared faith. But it needed to be their faith, reformed from all the excesses of the intervening ages since Christ.

When, in this case, they decry something as "papist", they are, of course, decrying the Catholic Church. But the chance of the Catholics making inroads into Plymouth Colony short of an armed invasion by the French or Spanish, were slim to none. Their real target were their backsliding Anglican brethren, who seemed to lurch to and fro from Calvinist Puritanism to high-church almost Catholicism.

The Puritans were right to be afraid. They ultimately lost the battle for the English soul, and an Anglican Church arose that was as high-church as the Roman one. Why, it even based its liturgy on the Sarum Use, a Latin liturgy from the ancient days, translated into English.

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Methadras said...

Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to baptists about church and state has allowed democrats to lead us to these preposterous notions of separation of. In this day and age where some modicum of religiosity is being driven out of the public sphere, is it any wonder we are having these new turmoils of lack of ethics, a devaluation of morals, a set of mores that advance nothing but ones own personal vices over the virtues of others.

EDH said...

The governor knew what he had to do. He confiscated their sports equipment...

"They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal."

jr565 said...

Methadras wrote:
Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to baptists about church and state has allowed democrats to lead us to these preposterous notions of separation of. In this day and age where some modicum of religiosity is being driven out of the public sphere, is it any wonder we are having these new turmoils of lack of ethics, a devaluation of morals, a set of mores that advance nothing but ones own personal vices over the virtues of others.

I would think that having Christmas be a national holiday belies the whole lefty argument about how we can't have CHristmas Trees, but must have holiday trees.Can we even have Christmas?

traditionalguy said...

Calvinists. had courage to sail to nowhere with nothing much as twenty. year. olds

They had to learn tolerance.
Using their error to approve current atheist. intolerance is a sophiist trick that deserves condemnation from honest men.

Chip Ahoy said...

That's interesting. I did not realize Calvinists were sailors.

I'm familiar where their story picks up as great manipulators of anil blue dye and a specialized twill out of Nîmes, de Nîmes, denim so blue denim, great makers of of blue denim pants. Expanding eventually into other areas, their sect gained its peak of prominence under the leadership of a twenty. year. old. who proclaimed the sturdiness of their codpieces from gigantic billboards notably in Times Square, for by then the sect had expanded their textile enterprise to lighter cottons and briefer garments so that the line included such things as t-shirts and boxer's short pants, where their leader at the time Marky-Mark would grab his absorbent double cotton panel as if to silently and majestically challenge "Don't even suck it."

Still revered in Britain. His icons and memorabilia are bartered to this day.

chrisnavin.com said...

It's the way some are advocating for the evacuation of religion from the public square, the laws, and civic life that's troubling.

What's replacing it?

Chip Ahoy said...

Speaking of bullshit, last month I left a check for my rent after hours in their dropbox with a note for the ladies in the office.

The note was thank-you letter from a make believe visitor thanking the building for allowing me to house them, what with all the animals and noise and chaos and such. It went on about how well everything worked out fairly well getting them all together in time before it starts raining but they pretty much did it by themselves. And not everyone's here, we expect they'll show up at the last minute. We got almost all of them, although some don't have two, and others have more than two but in the end it'll probably work out okay.

Thanks mucho, Noah

There was a little Christmas card tucked into my door jamb this morning signed by all the people in the office. I forgot about that note I wrote. That was joke. But they're all Christians, except for one and now that I think about it, the thing probably got 'em because all they ever usually get are complaints and work orders, and late rentals and difficulties and such.

Methadras said...

chrisnavin.com said...

It's the way some are advocating for the evacuation of religion from the public square, the laws, and civic life that's troubling.

What's replacing it?


Secular progressive multi-cultural diversity pablum.

Astro said...

So what were these horrible sports that were being played? I'm guessing lawn darts. Authority figure types have always hated lawn darts.