November 13, 2012

"Both Gen. David Petraeus and Gen. John Allen intervened in the same nasty child custody battle involving Natalie Khawam..."

"... the 'psychologically unstable' twin sister of Jill Kelley, whose bombshell claims of being threatened by Petraeus' lover led to the top spy’s resignation last week, the Post has learned."
And in court documents filed by Kelley's sister Natalie Khawam, she name-drops both Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island -- who both have ties to a Providence, RI, lawyer/lobbyist who loaned a whopping $300,000 to Khawam.

Khawam claimed in a July 12 letter to her estranged husband that she took their son "on vacation last year to Martha Vineyard," where their son and "I had a great time at the DSCC [Democratic Senate Campaign Committee] event."

"Sen. John Kerry asked if [her son] would be coming again this year," Khawam wrote. "[Their son] was a superstar at the DSCC last year."

A spokeswoman for Kerry – who the Washington Post reports is being considered as President Obama's next secretary of defense -- had no immediate comment.
Oh, my. Petraeusgate is a gaping maw! Men teetering on the edge. And always another woman. Look out, there are 2 of them! Kelley comes in duplicate: Kelley and Khawam... ka-bam!

ADDED: This story is an immense distraction, with all these spangly details. I'm not sure what parts are going to matter. Is Kerry seriously involved? Is the child custody dispute significant? Will it tie back to Benghazi importantly or is it taking us down a rathole?

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NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Maybe it's not a but Benghazi at all. Maybe they're trying to cover Gen. Kip Ward's ass.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2012/11/ap-general-ward-demoted-repay-111312/

harrogate said...

Some people really get into talking about sex scandals and waxing outraged about them and all the rest, don't they?

It's interesting.

Colonel Angus said...

Voter fraud. Pifffle. Nothing to see here. Illegal aliens flooding the social welfare system and driving wages into the tank. No big deal and you are racist if you say anything about it. Drunken and debauched Secret Service personell understandable, I would be drunk on my ass too if I had to to guard, with my life, and to pretend respect the criminals in the Whitehouse Inflation?? Naw. Just your imagination that everything is costing twice as much as a few years ago. Who needs gasoline or milk or heating oil anyway. Quit whining and bow to Obama

I just don't give a shit and plan to only do things that will personally benefit me...Me...ME!!! I've decided that it is more peaceful and calming to be a low or even NO information voter since it doesn't matter what we do or say.


Actually this sums up my view quite nicely. No point in discussing reality with the so called loyal opposition. Most liberals I debate with are more concerned with scoring topic points than coming up with solutions and this forum is no diffetent.

It was a pleasure talking with some of you. Best wishes.

mccullough said...

Lem,

Love that tune. Patty Smythe is now married to John McEnroe.

Titus said...

Men get horny.

Women need to be dirty.

tits.

Darrell said...

John Kerry has fancied himself as a player for a long time. A couple of months before he began his Presidential run in the primaries, he was at some of the bars on Rush Street trying to hit on co-eds. The girls all told him a similar thing--"You do know you are old enough to be my grandpa, don't you?" They had cellphone pictures and a few recordings of the audio. The Press wouldn't touch it and some of the stuff played on talk radio--WLS. The one non-Lefty newspaper columnist in Chicago--John Kass--did a piece on it, too.

Lem said...

Mr. Big Stuff - Jean Knight

(Oh yeah, ooh)
Mr. Big Stuff
Who do you think you are
Mr. Big Stuff
You're never gonna get my love

Now because you wear all those fancy clothes (oh yeah)
And have a big fine car, oh yes you do now
Do you think I can afford to give you my love (oh yeah)
You think you're higher than every star above


Who do you think you are is a purported quote from one of the emails sent to Kelly the FBI tipster.

Lem said...

It may have been Just Broadwell's Imagination... running away with her.

Lem said...

Petraeus let Broadwell down easy... Get Down - Pan's People & Gilbert O'Sullivan... he still kept her around.

You give me the creeps
When you jump on your feet
So get down, get down, get down
Keep your hands to yourself
I'm strictly out of bounds

Darrell said...

Paula Broadwell's License Discovered in D.C. Park

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/11/13/paula-broadwell-driver-license-found-in-dc-park

Same park as Chandra Levy. Spoiler: Paula's OK. . .just a lost license.

Scientific Socialist said...
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Scientific Socialist said...

By report, Eric Holder knew this summer about the Petraeus investigation yet didn't tell the POTUS. If this is true, then Holder is malignantly derelict of his duties and should resign immediately. If it isn't true and in fact he notified Obama far in advance of November 6, then Obama should tender his own resignation lest he be impeached.

Lem said...

The FBI found secret documents in Broadwells possession... safe to speculate the result of Pillow Talk... no dout.

NotquiteunBuckley said...

JUst how many problems would have been solved, being not of being, had not all those nasty little maybebaybees not just had the gall to start nonbabyin?

Maybe that's why they were aborted in the first place!

Kirk Parker said...

C4 @ 3:32: I see a few more spots where you could have worked in another reference to teh Joooooos. You're slipping, buddy...

Lem said...

Paula C

A song about a breakup...

AllenS said...

These revelations might seem funny to us, but to those grunts who have their ass in the grass, these kinds of things ruin morale.

When those in charge are busy with anything but showing leadership and a concern about whom they command, innocent people die.

Those doing the fighting have to follow rules of engagement that these commanders require that they follow, service members die needlessly.

I'd bust everyone involved down to the rank of E1.

Roger J. said...

WEhat AllenS--but Allens: I fear the four stars couldnt find the operating end of a D-handle shovel

Pogo said...

"I just don't give a shit and plan to only do things that will personally benefit me...Me...ME!!! I've decided that it is more peaceful and calming to be a low or even NO information voter since it doesn't matter what we do or say.
"

I second this comment by DBQ. I've been thinking about it since I read it yesterday.

I cannot see any point to continuing to vote in MN, now that the voter ID law lost. I've seen fraud and no one gives a shit. Hell, they think it's funny.

They even tried voter fraud at our neighborhood association meeting. (God were they pissed when it failed.)

It was for me Kristallnacht against an honest and trustworthy vote. I see no point in participating in an evil.

Dalrymple:
"When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself."

AllenS said...

This really pisses me off, Roger. I have no way of knowing, and I doubt if anybody will ever know when the administration knew about all of this, but it seems to me that this might be why nobody did anything about helping those people in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11. These military commanders were not doing their job. They were in a CYA mode.

You'll never hear Bill or Hillary Clinton talking about all of this.

phx said...

No point in discussing reality with the so called loyal opposition. Most liberals I debate with are more concerned with scoring topic points than coming up with solutions and this forum is no diffetent.

Anybody who thinks their side has the corner on righteousness here is just.full.of.shit.

The evidence to the contrary is right here, in this comments section.

Wise up.

phx said...

I just don't give a shit and plan to only do things that will personally benefit me...Me...ME!!!

I'm going to guess you always have.

Pogo said...

"Wise up."

He had, hence his comment.

Roger J. said...

AllenS--like you I am really upset with our senior officers--the bastards were charged with fighting a war and sending troopers out to die--Look like they were more interested in pussy than protecting their troopers.

McTriumph said...

On the way home last night, i stopped by the local bar for a beer. I sat next to two older gentlemen wearing VFW caps. They had an interesting theory, that the Obama administration was discrediting America's two top generals either to politically neuter them or get them to resign prior to the appointment of John Kerry to DOD Sec., Interesting.

Marshal said...

phx said...
No point in discussing reality with the so called loyal opposition. Most liberals I debate with are more concerned with scoring topic points than coming up with solutions and this forum is no diffetent.

Anybody who thinks their side has the corner on righteousness here is just.full.of.shit.

The evidence to the contrary is right here, in this comments section.


Funny how people whining that they don't get to take enough from others causes those others to fight to keep what they've earned. Whoever could have predicted such an outlandish reaction?

wyo sis said...

Don't even try to compare righteousness. There is no righteousness, there are only degrees of unrighteousness.

OK. The Obama administration is the most corrupt of all the corrupt administrations.

Does that feel better?

Aridog said...

What AllenS said and then some. Private E-1 is not low enough.

You could just delete half of the flag and general rank officers overnight and not miss them. We have over 800+ today, for a military that tops out at 1.4 million and declining...doubt we have even 10 full strength Divisions of grunts. WTF do all these high ranks do?

Now you know.

How General Petraeus got his "hero" standing I don't know. One strategic/tactical move like "the surge?" His first combat command was in 2003 as a Major General, so I doubt he was pulling patrol duty as point in Falluja or whatever. Well educated, no doubt bright, fit, and apparently...horny. So it goes.

There was no valid military excuse what-so-ever for a female embedded (pun intended) biographer, known personally to him previously, with his command staff in Afghanistan. People are still dying there, god fucking damnit!

He wasn't the only general chasing twat in Afghanistan, it was/is almost a sport. I had a Major General Division Commander who specialized in it. He even fucked the wife of one of my subordinates. Army caught up to his act when he pissed off enough women and he was shown the door....so to speak. As a Colonel. Even then about 80% of his flings worshiped him as a hero, too.

This kind of crap is just sitting there to be used when convenient. It is never a secret.

LarsPorsena said...

@Airdog:

"...You could just delete half of the flag and general rank officers overnight and not miss them. We have over 800+ today, for a military that tops out at 1.4 million and declining...doubt we have even 10 full strength Divisions of grunts. WTF do all these high ranks do? .."

Yep, we have an inverted management pyramid. A general for every platoon. Not enough riflemen but more than enough generals.

AprilApple said...

The pro-Obama hack media only care about the sex side and the distraction it provides from the terror attack in Benghazi.

Aridog said...

LarsPorsena said...

Yep, we have an inverted management pyramid

I can assure you that the inverted pyramid applies to every single agency in the federal government. New senior executive positions are invented almost daily. Governance has reached that critical mass where the "process" is more important than any service or deliverable.

MayBee said...

On Twitter, a guy from the ACLU says this:

Christopher Soghoian ‏@csoghoian
Journalists: Shame on you all. Tampa Federal Court clerk hasn't received a single call about Petraeus email warrant (mine was the 1st)


J

Hagar said...

Professor,

Does writing a letter testifying to your good opinion of someone seeking to retain custody of her children in a "nasty divorce case" qualify as "intervening" in the case?

As for the judge's opinion of Ms. Khawan's medical condition, have we not recently seen judges removed from cases for expressing opinions they were not qualified to make about defendants in their courts?

LarsPorsena said...

Aridog said...

LarsPorsena said...

Yep, we have an inverted management pyramid

I can assure you that the inverted pyramid applies to every single agency in the federal government. New senior executive positions are invented almost daily. Governance has reached that critical mass where the "process" is more important than any service or deliverable.

11/14/12 8:36 AM
___________________________________

I could bore you for hours on end re this topic with my own anecdotes. Suffice it to say, the 'process' is all even when the results defy common sense.

phx said...

OK. The Obama administration is the most corrupt of all the corrupt administrations.

Does that feel better?


Does it make me feel better that you are intense partisans, with no track record of ever evaluating either side objectively? No record of behaving in any manner other than that of a right-wing jihadist? No record of ever saying anything good towards your opponents, or critical toward your own side?

What is there to admire in a group of people who act more like North Korean citizens than thinking persons?

Hagar said...

Governance has reached that critical mass where the "process" is more important than any service or deliverable.

Silly statement. "Process" is immediately the basis of any government operation on any level, no matter how modest.

Marshal said...

phx said...
What is there to admire in a group of people who act more like North Korean citizens than thinking persons?


More than there is to admire about someone who rants about internet commenters while ignoring similar but worse actions from his own Presidential selection. Oh, and more than there is to admire about some whose only purpose in posting is being an asshole, like for example in this very comment right here.

LarsPorsena said...

Hagar said...

Governance has reached that critical mass where the "process" is more important than any service or deliverable.

Silly statement. "Process" is immediately the basis of any government operation on any level, no matter how modest.

11/14/12 9:11 AM
_________________________________

It's not silly when the 'process' becomes an end in and of itself rather than results.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

"I just don't give a shit and plan to only do things that will personally benefit me...Me...ME!!!>

I'm going to guess you always have.

Au contraire mon sockpuppet. There are multiple charitable activities that I USED to participate in that I will no longer, since the dirtbags who benefit are most likely those scum who voted [more than once probably as well] for Obama and more FREE STUFF.

Food pantry and food drives.....you have food stamps, use them on food, dirtball, instead of drugs, cigarettes, junk food and beer.

Clothing drives.......if I know you, I "might" personally buy you a coat otherwise....get a job.

You Obama voters have free money in the form of food stamps, subsidized rent, subsidized utilities, free phone and free health care [I have to pay cash for my medical care...no insurance] AND we are paying for you through taxes. I don't care about your problems.

Homeless shelter donations of my time, goods and money....see all of above.

Local organizations where I am/was an elected Board Member or other official and spent countless hours away from our own businesses and my family. Municipal Advisory Council, Chamber of Commerce, CSD, Economic Development Council,etc. Sorry. I don't have time for your bullshit and endless bickering,backstabbing and trying to explain simple concepts to people so stupid, I'm surprised they can get through the day. [talk about the real no information people...sheesh]... I resign.

Things I will continue to do 1.) donate time as a volunteer librarian at our LOCAL private/non profit library. Not government affiliated. Plus it is something I LIKE to do. 2.) Donate to the Soroptomist's LOCAL battered women's shelter program. 3.)Knit afghans,slippers, and hats through my knitting guild. for the people in the LOCAL long term care facility who don't have anyone who gives a shit about them anymore.

Since everyone has decided that they want to be Julia and have Big Brother run their lives....who am I to step in their way. You don't need my help. Have at it suckers.

wyo sis said...

For the record. I don't like or condone corrupt government no matter who engages in it.
You seem to want to engage in an argument where each side brings out the minutia of their opponents corruption, defines their own terms and self-righteously claims to be the least evil.

For the sake of moving forward I'll stipulate that both sides are evil.

phx said...

Au contraire mon sockpuppet. There are multiple charitable activities that I USED to participate in that I will no longer, since the dirtbags who benefit are most likely those scum who voted [more than once probably as well] for Obama and more FREE STUFF.

Deep end crap speaks for itself.

Rusty said...

Marshal said...
phx said...
What is there to admire in a group of people who act more like North Korean citizens than thinking persons?

Which is why I question your commitment to the progressive ideology.

wyo sis said...

"Does it make me feel better that you are intense partisans, with no track record of ever evaluating either side objectively? No record of behaving in any manner other than that of a right-wing jihadist? No record of ever saying anything good towards your opponents, or critical toward your own side?

What is there to admire in a group of people who act more like North Korean citizens than thinking persons? "

Didn't the cognitive dissonance as you typed that cause your ears to ring?
Stipulate that all partisans are partisan.
Now evaluate the current Benghazi mess without knowing which administration was in power at the time.
Is it a great thing we should all be proud of or is it a cesspool of corruption that should make everyone sick?

phx said...

Didn't the cognitive dissonance as you typed that cause your ears to ring?
Stipulate that all partisans are partisan.
Now evaluate the current Benghazi mess without knowing which administration was in power at the time.
Is it a great thing we should all be proud of or is it a cesspool of corruption that should make everyone sick


No cognitive dissonance here. I own my contradictions.

All partisans are partisan, that's true. I've been reminded here before that all of us are partisans. I said "intense partisans" because I was trying to not use the inflammatory term "extremists," which is in fact what many of you are IMO.

I haven't weighed in on the Benghazi mess yet. I'm waiting for the facts to be adjudictated by sober heads instead of right-wing extremists.

chickelit said...

phx intones: What is there to admire in a group of people who act more like North Korean citizens than thinking persons?

Need I remind you that all the larger than life posters and other displays of idolatry (Obama is Lincoln, Obama is Reagan) all came from your side. That was disingenuous, phx--even for you. :)

Rusty said...

phx said,
"I haven't weighed in on the Benghazi mess yet. I'm waiting for the facts to be adjudictated by sober heads instead of right-wing extremists"



Steel doesn't melt!

Aridog said...

phx said...

I haven't weighed in on the Benghazi mess yet. I'm waiting for the facts to be adjudicated by sober heads instead of right-wing extremists

Really? Does it mean nothing to you that there are at least two or three persons here, who have served as "duty officers" or "staff duty NCO's" in situations like Benghazi, and they tell you that the basic facts of an organized attack were known within 10 minutes, and communicated to senior offices in Washington at DoD, CIA, and Dept of State?

Odd then that the "video excuse" was used for so long, in my opinion. Even the Libyans in Benghazi knew that was crap.

You see,no matter what reason, real or contrived, is put up for the non-response to the attack and attempt to preserve lives, it stands as a grievous failure on our part. Period.

Please don't insult my intelligence by challenging what I am saying. I've stood duty watches and had to react to incursions as they happened, had to receive and encrypt and re-send messages of the details to appropriate senior offices. Fortunately we never had to order our first fall back tactical contingencies performed of blowing bridges and access points behind our troops. That would have crushed me. Some of those potentials still keep me awake.

Feel free to disagree and treat Benghazi like some fraternity or sorority screw up awaiting some administrative judgment. Trust me, it was not that. No one wants to die and four men did. Maybe more that we don't know about.

phx said...

Please don't insult my intelligence by challenging what I am saying.

Aridog, I'm not challenging what you are saying, and I'm not minimizing anything.

I'm respectfully saying I'm withholding judgment or belief until they are adjudicated by sober-headed nonpartisans apart from those found in Althouse comments.

phx said...

Need I remind you that all the larger than life posters and other displays of idolatry (Obama is Lincoln, Obama is Reagan) all came from your side. That was disingenuous, phx--even for you. :)

I have nothing to do with that stuff. Zippo, nada.

Kirby Olson said...
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Kirby Olson said...

Someone upthread asked if it's determined that Bam won by fraud whether MR would be the new prez. The answer is that once an election has been decided it's certified. At that point it cannot be revisited. We're stuck with Bam the fiscal cliff Benghazi high unemployment illegal immigration the 47% rising gas costs and lowered S & P and all the other blessings of BO and his nutty buddies from Acorn.

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