October 3, 2012

"When it comes to racial demagoguery, the right has become everything it says it hates about the left."

Says Conor Friedersdorf:
If the New York Times was constantly searching for archival footage to prove that Mitt Romney doesn't like black people, or that he is "whipping up race hatred," the conservative media would accuse them of frivolously ignoring the actual issues that this election ought to turn on. It would say that they were exploiting the racial anxieties of Americans to tarnish the character of a man whose long record of public policy-making shows no evidence of racial animosity or radicalism.
Before you reflexively reject Friedersdorf's opinion — which I share —  know that he recently wrote "Why I Refuse to Vote for Barack Obama."
The whole liberal conceit that Obama is a good, enlightened man, while his opponent is a malign, hard-hearted cretin, depends on constructing a reality where the lives of non-Americans -- along with the lives of some American Muslims and whistleblowers -- just aren't valued. Alternatively, the less savory parts of Obama's tenure can just be repeatedly disappeared from the narrative of his first term, as so many left-leaning journalists, uncomfortable confronting the depths of the man's transgressions, have done over and over again.   
He's positioning himself to the left of Obama, but the point is, he's not an Obamaphile, unless he's performing the ministrations of Obamaphilia in a rather subtle fashion.

ADDED: I didn't mean to suggest that I share every detail of Friedersdorf's opinion, only opposition to the exploitation of the old video of him pandering to an audience of black churchgoers. I don't, in fact, agree that Obama has a "long record of public policy-making" that's entirely devoid of "evidence of racial animosity or radicalism." There's some racial animosity and radicalism here and there. He's too far to the left for my taste on many issues (and Romney is too far to the right). He hasn't repressed every shred of racial critique that's ever crossed his mind. That's not a big deal to me. What does bother me is that he hasn't fulfilled the dream that many white people projected onto him — with his fully willing encouragement — that he would take us to a higher ground, racially. But we, the voters, need to take responsibility for our own vulnerability to the idealistic rhetoric that flows so freely from political candidates.

155 comments:

Jane said...

This tape bothers me because it shows a man who ought to know better, LYING.

By January 2007, six months before Obama’s Hampton speech, the federal government had sent at least $110 billion to areas damaged by Katrina. This was more than five times the money that the Bush administration pledged to New York City after 9/11.

The federal government did at times waive the Stafford Act during its New Orleans reconstruction efforts. On May 25, 2007, just weeks before Obama’s speech, the Bush administration sent an additional $6.9 billion to Katrina-affected areas with no strings attached.

Matthew Sablan said...

"For conservatives, complaining that college administrators do less to accommodate students because they're white is perfectly respectable commentary, and anyone who says otherwise is enforcing political correctness; but a specific critique of disaster relief dollars shortchanging blacks is "whipping up race hatred," and labeling it beyond the pale isn't political correctness run amok at all."

-- Who has ever said that schools aren't doing enough to accommodate whites? Also: Obama was -wrong- about New Orleans being short changed.

I think it is a bit odd that we dug back a few years to show a video that made Obama look bad, but whatever. Again, the point of the video is two-fold:

1) To smack the media

2) To give people a new string of "If a Republican had said it" quotes, since the last set was getting stale.

Richard Fagin said...

What Mr. Friedersdorf says about the conservative media is correct. However, what the conservative media says about the likes of The New York Times is equally correct. The question then becomes who is the worse villain.

I'm going to order a copy of the Times' bankruptcy petition when it's eventually filed and have it framed for display in my office, if there's any question about who I think the worse villain is in this case.

Sofa King said...

Um, is there anyone who believe that the New York Times is not constantly searching for archival footage to prove that Mitt Romney doesn't like black people?

Nathan Alexander said...

Obama's response to Romney's "47%" video was to say that if you want to be President, you have to be President of all Americans.

The video proves Friedersdorf, and you, wrong.

It isn't racial demagoguery to attempt to expose racial demagoguery.

Friedersdorf is making a fool's argument.

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Matthew Sablan said...

Remember, just a few days ago, the media was running a story about how Romney didn't think of garbage men because they were invisible to him -- awkwardly using the exact phrase Romney used to describe how he felt while he was a garbage man for a day to understand what it was like.

The NYT and others don't search for tools to destroy Republican candidates, they just make it up as they go, and don't care who they hurt along the way. See: Iseman, Vicki.

Jay said...

Before you reflexively reject Friedersdorf's opinion — which I share

Really?

So your examples of this would include ______?

Pierre said...

Ann are u serious when u agree with the claim that Obama has not governed radically?

smarty said...

The NYT HAS dug as deep and far as possible to find evidence of racism and everything else on Romney.

This tape though, it shows Obama as a liar- eh threw Wright under the bus during his campaign, and here in this speech he threw AMERICA under the bus to build credibility among blacks- just as the news media and the Dems threw America under the bus on the world stage to make Bush look bad (making sure that every Muslim in the world hates us as a nation, when all they wanted was for them to hate Bush).

Only an idiot liberal can so consistently ignore facts to focus on how they feel about the discovery of the facts, or the "tone" of the messenger.

Matthew Sablan said...

Though, his comments on Katrina are certainly going to rankle the people who suffered from fires, ice storms and oil spills where his administration dallied on. Are those people not part of the American Family, Mr. President?, should be the next question posed to him at a press conference.

Jay said...

If the New York Times was constantly searching for archival footage to prove that Mitt Romney doesn't like black people

Who says they are not?

And is this clown seriously comparing the Drudge Report to the New York Times?

And you agree with that?

Matthew Sablan said...

Also, was it the NYT who crowd sourced Palin's emails? If so, that's kind of funny.

Jay said...

Before you reflexively reject Friedersdorf's opinion — which I share

Of course you share it.

You've lived in the lilliest of lilly white, hyper-liberal America for the overwhelming majority of your adult life.

Of course you see "racism" here, there, and everywhere. Its been ingrained.

Jay Retread said...

Ann, when are you going to accept that your Althouse Hillbillies are just out-and-out racists?

Tim said...

"The Daily Caller Video, President Obama and the Race-Obsessed Right"

Bullshit.

The irony of this is, had Barack Obama been as pale as John Edwards, he would have finished no better than third behind Hillary! and Edwards.

Racial identity is not only central to Obama's identity, it is the only reason he got as far as he did.

Yet, in the end, as the tape proves, Obama exploits race to his end. He prostitutes the only virtue he has (being the first Black president) to serve his very narrow, selfish needs; the "promise" of a "post-racial" America is tossed out like a used condom.

And then, adding another layer of irony, upon criticizing this all-to-obviously over-matched, doomed to fail affirmative action hire, it is conservatives who are labeled as "racists;" not, mind you, to have a discussion about race in America, but to shut down dissent.

Friedersdorf is full of shit; and if you believe he is correct, then so to are you Althouse.

The Crack Emcee said...

Richard Fagin,

What Mr. Friedersdorf says about the conservative media is correct. However, what the conservative media says about the likes of The New York Times is equally correct. The question then becomes who is the worse villain.

No it isn't - the question is "who can you trust?"

Dancing with the lesser of two evils still leaves you dealing with evil - and open to being screwed.

Don't you get that?

Matthew Sablan said...

Who qualifies as an "Althouse Hillbilly?"

gmama3 said...

Riiiight....... and a phoney Texas National Guard memo from the 60s deemed by the left to be "fake but accurate" wasn't worse. At least no one disputes the authenticity of the video.

Save me the hand wringing.

TreeJoe said...

Seriously Ann? Mitt Romney isn't claiming to be a post-racialist who will bring America together. Romney didn't throw his long-term reverend under the bus when the views espoused by said reverend came to light. I could go on.

The video is further proof that Obama will happily stroke racial tensions. That he continued to publicly proclaim a close, familial relationship with his pastor.

...

We have a President built upon Persona. The Persona was built by a campaign. All evidence from outside of that campaign is that the Persona is largely false. He's not a constitutional scholar, he's not a consensus builder, he will use racial speeches to promote distruct of african-americans towards the U.S. government when it suits him...

And, as you've pointed out, the overwhelmingly liberal media has no desire to dig into Obama's recent past to breakthrough his persona. They won't dig into Biden. They won't analyze what it means to put Samantha Power, Susan Rice, and Valerie Jarrett within close earshot....

So what, exactly, is wrong with raising this video showing exactly who Obama was 1 year before he was elected president?

bgates said...

I like that emphasis on which I share, as if it improves his standing for you to say "I could no more disown Conor Friedersdorf than I could my typical white faculty lounge".

That's as funny as thinking that it gives extra weight to his opposition to attacks on Obama from the right to know that he is on Obama's left.

Jay Retread said...

It is embarrassing to you that you have encouraged them and provided them a home for so long.

chuck said...

If Romney didn't like black people and was "whipping up race hatred", I'd like to know about it. Friedersdorf's argument seems to based on the idea that evident, if inconvenient, facts should be kept hidden. Searches for the ghosts of departed dog whistles is one thing, letting plain statements speak for themselves is another.

Matthew Sablan said...

"It is embarrassing to you that you have encouraged them and provided them a home for so long."

-- If you are so embarrassed and unwilling to answer my question (who counts as "them"), you could always leave.

Jay said...

I'm still wondering how a video of a President saying the government doesn't want to take care of New Orleans post Katrina (which is a lie by the way) is "racist" or in any coherent way demonstrates racism by those wishing to expose the video.

I won't hold my breath awaiting such a coherent explanation.

Patrick said...

It would say that they were exploiting the racial anxieties of Americans to tarnish the character of a man whose long record of public policy-making shows no evidence of racial animosity or radicalism.

"Long record?" The man has no record at all, short of voting "present" when the tough issues came up.

The man presented himself as a "post racial" president, and was presented by others as a racial healer. It is not racist to show that those presentations are false. It is not "exploiting racial anxieties" to refute a claim that Pres. Obama brought up in the first place. You, Prof. Althouse have said that your hope in what he could do for race in America was one of the reasons you voted for him. Why shouldn't the right attempt to convince you that those hopes were premised upon false suppositions?

Whether it is effective is certainly another question. I doubt it is. But to claim that such arguments are out of bounds, as you are when you say they serve to exploit "racial anxieties" is ...bullshit.

Jeff said...

Mr. Friedersdorf is accusing Republicans/conservatives of projection - of accusing Democrats/liberals of playing the race card when it is the conservatives who are doing so. What he ignores (and what I think Ann is either ignoring, downplaying, or dismissing) is that Democrats/liberals don't have to look for tapes of Romney being racist because they *know* that he is. If PB&J is racist, then all white people are definitely racist. Overtly stoking racial (or sexual) animus is how the Democrats maintain their coalition, but when they are called out on it, the messenger is shot (with the racism bullet).

Larry J said...

So, showing evidence that Obama is a racist is racist. Do I have that right?

He can't run on his record because it is lousy, but saying so is racist.

He can't run on what he wants to accomplish in his second term and asking him about it is racist.

He can't be held accountable for anything because doing so is racist.

Fuck you.

Matthew Sablan said...

Jay: I think calling it Obama's "other race speech" set the tone. I wouldn't have tried to gussy the video up and just released it and let it speak for itself. But, my instincts are toward opinion-free journalism, and the Daily Caller and Drudge have more activist journalist bents than I do.

Besides, I think Drudge even said that accusations of racism would fly from all directions. So, you know, it was baked into the cake.

Jay said...

Jay Retread said...
Ann, when are you going to accept that your Althouse Hillbillies are just out-and-out racists?


When are you going to realize you have not the slightest bit of self-awareness or capacity to identify "racism"?

Bob Ellison said...

You share this?

What does it take to make five-year-old remarks the biggest story of the moment in conservative media? A racial angle. That's all it ever takes.

For conservatives, complaining that college administrators do less to accommodate students because they're white is perfectly respectable commentary, and anyone who says otherwise is enforcing political correctness; but a specific critique of disaster relief dollars shortchanging blacks is "whipping up race hatred," and labeling it beyond the pale isn't political correctness run amok at all.


Friedersdorf, author, seems to have realized he was out on a limb in that second quote. He combined about five ideas and three sentences into one inscrutable souffle.

This writing, these ideas, are childish. Boogey-man stuff. You subscribe to this?

John said...

Althouse proves Crack's point. Sadly, she still doesn't understand that a liberal education and sheltered academic life is not the same as walking a mile in my shoes. Not even close.

Jay said...

Jay: I think calling it Obama's "other race speech" set the tone

Ok, so I guess in liberal land the use of the term "race" means (dogwhistle!) we're accusing Obama of racism.

Note: the media went wild over Obama's "race speech" and called it a "races speech"

Ann didn't accuse Obama of racism, nor the media at that time.

Funny how it all works out...

Jay Retread said...

Althouse Hillbillies=commenters at this blog who suffer from poverty of the mind and who go into gnarly hysteria when baited by their master Althouse, usually with racial red meat.

dbp said...

In the world inhabited by Conor Friedersdorf, if the president was a racist or had an identifiable record of stirring-up racial discord, anyone who points that out is automatically a racist.

Sort of how those who pointed out "racial mismatch" decades ago were dismissed out of hand.

The systematic closemindedness of the left never fails to astonish.

Marshal said...

The clear difference is that the leftist media were searching for events that had to be interpreted beyond their meaning to claim Romney was race baiting. In summary, there was no actual race baiting by Romney.

On the other hand Barack Obama is race baiting - supported by lies - in front of your very eyes. But you claim these series of events are the same? Bizarre.

Matthew Sablan said...

"Althouse Hillbillies=commenters at this blog who suffer from poverty of the mind and who go into gnarly hysteria when baited by their master Althouse, usually with racial red meat."

-- You do know Althouse was of the opinion that the Obama phones video (which I've never bothered to watch so I have no opinion) was racist (or at least, being exploited in a racist way? I don't really know. I saw the comment number and didn't bother with the thread.)

I think it might be good to pause and get a better read on Althouse (and the commentators) before continuing on this line of reasoning.

bgates said...

Who has ever said that schools aren't doing enough to accommodate whites?

Allan Bakke, Wendy Wygant, Cheryl Hopwood, Jennifer Gratz, Barbara Grutter, Crystal Meredith, Abigail Fisher....

The Crack Emcee said...

TreeJoe,

Seriously Ann? Mitt Romney isn't claiming to be a post-racialist who will bring America together. Romney didn't throw his long-term reverend under the bus when the views espoused by said reverend came to light. I could go on.

Two things:

1) Nobody's rejecting Romney for the sins of his "church."

2) Ann left out that Friedersdorf also did a column saying he can't vote for Romney either.

Friedersdorf is closer to my position than anyone else's here,...

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Matthew Sablan said...

"Ok, so I guess in liberal land the use of the term "race" means (dogwhistle!) we're accusing Obama of racism."

-- I think it is more the tone, than anything else. I didn't watch the Hannity segment, but I could see people being offput by the Daily Caller's piece. Again, I don't agree that the video is racist (or that running with it is), just that I think the well was poisoned a bit by the lead up, which made it a fight not over the facts in there (I, for one, think when Obama says the administration [Bush, at the time] didn't do enough for AIDS alone should have been a gaffe at the time that was reported).

Jay said...

a specific critique of disaster relief dollars shortchanging blacks

Except the "critique" is a hysterical lie, demonstrates an ignorance of what the Federal Government's role is in a disaster, and completely ignores the fact that a black mayor hid out in a hotel and a white Gov revealed herself to be incompetent & clueless during the whole thing.

A "critique" it certainly was not.

But don't worry, Ann shares this silly view.

Curious George said...

"Before you reflexively reject Friedersdorf's opinion — which I share..."

What a steaming pile. The lefty media has called Romney and Ryan over and over and over for fucking racism that IMAGINED...Obama's golfing...RACISM BECAUSE HE'S LIKE TIGER WOODS...his Chicago roots...RACISM BECAUSE CHICAGO HAS BLACK PEOPLE...on and on and on and on.

But yo uhave Obama in his own words making lies and tha's the equalizer?

Give me a fucking break.

Bryan C said...

"It would say that they were exploiting the racial anxieties of Americans to tarnish the character of a man whose long record of public policy-making shows no evidence of racial animosity or radicalism."

But Obama's record does show evidence of racial animosity and radicalism. How is it exploitative to note that the President, when the opportunity arises, sounds an awful lot like a pandering race-baiter?

And did the author sleep through the whole "47%" controversy? A relatively straightforward statement that did not even mention or imply race was used, quite casually, to accuse Romney of racism.

Jay Retread said...

Matthew, Althouse is now embarrassed she attracted all of these lazy Althouse Hillbillies to her porch. So she is now trying to distance herself from these embarrassments. Also she gets off on making her Althouse Hillbillies jump.

"Get a move on you dumb racist Althouse Hillbillies! I said JUMP!"

The Crack Emcee said...

Curious George,

Yo uhave Obama in his own words making lies and tha's the equalizer?

Give me a fucking break.


Why? You guys aren't holding Romney to his lies, so what's the diff?

You're all guilty,...

Writ Small said...

Agree with the broad point Ann is making, which is that Republicans highlighting instances where Obama appears to pander on racial grounds is self-defeating. Almost anyone who is stirred up by such examples is already anti-Obama. The undecided are just as likely to be turned off.

A far better strategy is to focus on Obama's manifest failure as a leader.

The Crack Emcee said...

For the record:

I am an Althouse Hillbilly - and proud of it.

Matthew Sablan said...

You know what's sad though? This video is being treated as a more serious attack on Obama, the candidate, than his failure in F&F and Libya.

Sit on that and marvel.

Jay Retread said...

Yes you are Crack, our pretend negro commentor.

bagoh20 said...

If you dig up both guys back yards and you only find racist skeletons is one of them, then yea, blame the diggers.

karrde said...

@Jay Retread,

How many times has any criticism of Obama been met with cries of "racism" from the defenders of Obama?

Who is looking for racists everywhere? Which side is trying to hide the recent (within a year of last Presidential election) speech of a politician?

Do my questions make me a racist hillbilly?

If so, why?

Matthew Sablan said...

"Yes you are Crack, our pretend negro commentor."

... Uh... wow. Are we -sure- Retread isn't just a parody like America's Politico? I mean like, really, super-duper, 100% sure?

edutcher said...

I think Ann wants to re-establish her street cred as being a Liberal on social issues.

Problem is, if anybody held a gun to that woman's head to make say she got her ObamaPhone, it was SEIU, not the Tea Party or El Rushbo.

Jay Retread said...

Althouse Hillbillies=commenters at this blog who suffer from poverty of the mind and who go into gnarly hysteria when baited by their master Althouse, usually with racial red meat.

Now that's projection.

(it's also pathetic, but most Lefties are)

Salamandyr said...

Friedersdorf's basic point is undermined by the fact that the Left has been doing everything in their power to find archival footage of Romney's racial demagoguery, much as they have attempted to do with every Republican candidate in my memory.

The Republican's attempts are actually an adoption of Democratic methods. You may not like it, but to hold them accountable for something while giving their opponents carte blanche to do the same thing seems to me to be wrong. His (your?) attitude seems to be that it's okay for Dem's to do this because they're terrible people, but Republican's are supposed to be better people so when they engage in Democrat tactics, it somehow makes them worse than when Democrats do it.

And I don't give someone credit for being critical of Obama from the left. "Wah! He's not destroying the country fast enough for me! Wah!"

Christopher in MA said...

Ann, when are you going to accept that your Althouse Hillbillies are just out-and-out racists?

I'm sorry, sir, but your race card has been declined. It has expired.

Jay said...

Uh-oh. There is another video out, and guess who said this in 2002?

"It’s hard to imagine that the powerful in our society would tolerate the burgeoning prison industrial complex if they imagined that the black men and Latino men that are being imprisoned were something like their sons. "

And of course:

I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but rich people are all for nonviolence. Why wouldn’t they be? They’ve got what they want. They want to make sure people don’t take their stuff. But the principle of empathy recognizes that there are more subtle forms of violence to which we are answerable. The spirit of empathy condemns not only the use of firehoses and attack dogs to keep people down but also accountants and tax loopholes to keep people down. I’m not saying that what Enron executives did to their employees is the moral equivalent of what Bull Connor did to black folks, but I’ll tell you what, the employees at Enron feel violated. When a company town sees its plant closing because some distant executives made some decision despite the wage concessions, despite the tax breaks, and they see their entire economy collapsing, they feel violence

I guess exposing these words is racism.

cubanbob said...

Crack to cut to chase, who are you voting for that isn't the lesser of the evils?

Jay Retread, with his self-rightous snark once again proves that he is an an idiot and a communist but then again I repeat myself.

edutcher said...
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Right is right! said...

Many of us warned you this is what we would get if we elected a radical African as president. We are working our way to a race war. If Obama loses look for the black ghettos to erupt into riots.

edutcher said...

Jay said...

Uh-oh. There is another video out, and guess who said this in 2002?

"It’s hard to imagine that the powerful in our society would tolerate the burgeoning prison industrial complex if they imagined that the black men and Latino men that are being imprisoned were something like their sons. "


Link, por favor?

Sorun said...

If the New York Times was constantly searching for archival footage to prove that Mitt Romney doesn't like black people...

Lame assumption that such footage exists. If it did, NYT would've found it because they are looking. What a dumbass.

Rich B said...

Althouse Hillbillies? This is considered wit? In what precincts?

BTW, I thought Conor F was the Atlantic's house conservative, sort of a David Brooks type.

I think we need Meade to vouch for the integrity of Ann's mind. I am beginning to wonder.

Jay said...

Obama fighting injustice every step of the way!

Illinois, like many states in the country, has an education system that is funded by property taxes. It is fundamentally unjust. So you have folks up in Winnetka, pupils who are getting five times as much money per student as students in the South Side of Chicago.

LINK to more of Obama's race baiting.

garage mahal said...

Since when is an idiot with a modem and the NYT comparable?

Oso Negro said...

Our hostess' response to this episode is to shift attention from the content of the video to the fact that Republicans have introduced it into the discussion. The effect is a high-class BenSmithing. In the poll thread, commenter AJ Lynch said

"You, on the other hand, Althouse are a bit of a pussy with your lack of opinion or reaction to what you saw on the tapes. Analyze it with some passion - tell us is this what you want a president to say to special interest groups. Was Obama validating what Romney said -that many people like to act like victims. Hell, Obama said they were victims of the fed govt and white privilege."


Ann never answers this, and her reaction to the content of the Obama video remains unknown to her readers. It is unpleasant to say so, but I fear it may be simply that it is OK for Obama to go street with that audience, because he is a black person. This smells of the soft bigotry of low expectations.

Salamandyr said...

So a video showing candidate Obama participating in racial pandering and forwarding an ignorant, vile slander about the Federal Government's response to Katrina, is somehow an indication of the Right's racism.

I think you need to re-check your premises.

Matthew Sablan said...

"Since when is an idiot with a modem and the NYT comparable?"

-- I'd go with at least since the NYT's shamed themselves with the Iseman smear.

Jay said...

Speaking of property taxes, the government in PA was looking at funding schools via a higher state income tax and repealing all property taxes.

They stopped this effort because there would have been a $1.5 million dollar shortfall.

So in the nation's 5th largest state they can't find $1.5 million to cut from 67 counties.

Unreal.

bagoh20 said...

"Ann, when are you going to accept that your Althouse Hillbillies are just out-and-out racists?"

Sure, but we hate all races equally. That's what makes us better than your type.

rhhardin said...

I don't think there's a racist base among conservatives to appeal to.

There's a huge racist base on the left.

YoungHegelian said...

The phrase "our pretend negro commentor" wins the Althouse Forum Honorary Wiccan Perp Award for 2012.

TWM said...

Pardon me but I'm no Hillbillie. I'm a redneck from Mississippi although I left there decades ago.

And I will bet money that I have more and closer relationships with blacks than anyone working at the New York Times or the University of Wisconsin.

Richard Dolan said...

"... the conservative media ..."

That little phrase is the problem. It turns out to refer, in this instance, to Drudge, Daily Caller and Hannity.

Despite all the marketing hoopla yesterday, the speech wasn't different, except perhaps in tone, from what Obama has said many times elsewhere. As for 'racial demagoguery', you're more likely to find that if the subject is voter ID laws or affirmative action. The latter was, of course, a major theme (if more often in the subtext) of Obama's 2007 speech. The very premise of that discussion is a policy of dividing people into racial classes, each to be accorded different treatment, a premise that CJ Roberts has rightly called a "sordid business."

Carnifex said...

Does anyone even care if some white liberal cries racism any more. I mean, the only place they live are white bastions of liberalism. So if a tree falls in a forest...

Have any of these defernders of diversity ever spent a night in South Chicago, or South Philly, etc...I have, and I can tell you racism is alive and doing very well in those places.

I've decided to tell anyone else about MY racism, and how I think to fuck the hell off.

So to the OP. FUCK OFF!

I yesterday opined about the video and how it was more damning to the media than to Zero. I just think Mr. Smallballs is trying to cover his own ass. He knows that the media has been exposed(nasty sight) for the lying sycophants that they are, and America has no further use for their useless asses.(well Andy might. Take a cold one Andy)

Molly said...

There is a substantial part of the right who has been persuaded that the right has unilaterally disarmed: that unfair attacks from the left are not discredited by left-leaning media, while unfair attacks from the right have not been made because the right puts a high value on playing fair.

This isn't the only thing that differentiates establishment Republicans from non-establishment Republicans, but Brietbart and the tea-party and (I guess) talk radio have all been on the side of "Oh you want to play rough? We can play rough."

The Crack Emcee said...

Matthew Sablan,

Uh... wow. Are we -sure- Retread isn't just a parody like America's Politico? I mean like, really, super-duper, 100% sure?

Some of what goes on here is amazing, isn't it? I'm talking mind-blowing.

If I didn't see it with my own two eyes - or, many times, end up being the target of it - I'd deny it was even possible to happen. Seriously:

If you want to understand the depths of stupidity or depravity, hang around here long enough and you'll get a mouthful,...

Valentine Smith said...

Demagoguery my ass.

Zero has 983 executive orders vs 63 for Bush in less than half the time in power. That's WITH control of both Houses for 2 years. That's protofascism.

Every postmenopausal broad I know is in the tank for the Big Zero. It's as if they've nurtured every perceived slight, every faint insult over the last 40 years and now it's payback time to every ex-husband, disappointing son and indifferent father. It's not because Zero is the taboo fantasy gone unfulfilled in their brief youth. It's because Zero fulfills some masochistic need to adore the golden hero. One who looks nothing like all those venal corrupt, and above all crushingly disappointing men in their lives.

dave in boca said...

Ann is wrong to agree with Friedersdorf and wrong not to point out that Katrina victims had already received over $100 billion to rebuild when the ignorant demagogue---who happens to be half-black---began his inflammatory rant at Hampton, an all-black university.

If any white, Hispanic, or Asian-American had done the same thing in front of an audience of his/her fellow ethnic and racial peers, the mainstream media would have killed the campaign within a week. Obama is---as the LATimes liberal columnist put it so well---the Magic Negro. He is lifted up by the media---including the "celebrity news" media that most Americans know and watch more than the lame legacy alphabet networks---and levitates magically above his dismal record on the economy, etc.... He will do much more damage to the this country if he is elected to a second term---period.

TWM said...

"If you want to understand the depths of stupidity or depravity, hang around here long enough and you'll get a mouthful,..."

That's what she said. (Sorry, it was just too perfect . . .)

Right is right! said...

Crack, you want a "mouthfull"? Typical.

TWM said...

"Ann is wrong to agree with Friedersdorf and wrong not to point out that Katrina victims had already received over $100 billion to rebuild when the ignorant demagogue---who happens to be half-black---began his inflammatory rant at Hampton, an all-black university."

One should really differentiate between Katrina victims from New Orleans and those from the Mississipp gulf coast. I'm pretty sure Barry wasn't talking about the latter group.

Jay said...

Molly said...
but Brietbart and the tea-party and (I guess) talk radio have all been on the side of "Oh you want to play rough? We can play rough."


Yep.

And the punching back makes Ann uncomfortable. So instead of discussing the issues being spoken about, she will simply say "racism" and move along to avoid the uncomfortable.

Right is right! said...

Crack probably wants "loose shoes and a warm place to shit" as we'll. LOL

TWM said...

"And the punching back makes Ann uncomfortable."

I've noticed this as well.

Balfegor said...

The thing about Obama is, he occasionally plays the Black racist, but it's fake. He's pandering to Black racists in his audience (and occasionally to self-hating Whites) -- there's no reason to think he believes his own race-baiting any more than he believes his campaign speeches.

The Crack Emcee said...

cubanbob,

Crack to cut to chase, who are you voting for that isn't the lesser of the evils?

I don't vote for evil - I'm out.

I've even made the decision, just this morning, that I'm not voting at all this election - for anything.

My disillusionment has been transmuted into an eye-opening experience, and - I'm almost sorry to say - I'm kinda enjoying it.

edutcher said...

Thanks, Jay. Just wanted to see it.

Carnifex said...

Does anyone even care if some white liberal cries racism any more. I mean, the only place they live are white bastions of liberalism. So if a tree falls in a forest...

Precisely, the Lefties have managed to take all the shame (and there should be shame attached when the epithet is justified) out of the word.

Have any of these defernders of diversity ever spent a night in South Chicago, or South Philly

Think you mean North or West Philly. South is all Irish and Italian (mostly Italian), it's where the Navy Yard and the Open Market are.

West Philly is rough, but not that bad.

North Philly is very bad, they hate each other - girls have been murdered for their earrings.

The Crack Emcee said...

Rich B,

I thought Conor F was the Atlantic's house conservative, sort of a David Brooks type.

Nope - he's a lib.

John said...

"And the punching back makes Ann uncomfortable."

Ann is confortable only after putting up a false -middle of the road- front, and then falling back on projecting her misguided world view -who are the real racists- on the right. Can't seem to find it in herself to apply the same standards to both sides.

Green said...

So, althouse, are there ANY legitimate criticisms a republican can make of a democrat without it somehow being shadowy racism? Or are republicans restrained to marquis of queens bury rules while democrats are allowed to shiv people in the back with a knife, and if a republican fights back at all they risk losing your "support"?

The Crack Emcee said...

Green,

Are republicans restrained to marquis of queens bury rules while democrats are allowed to shiv people in the back with a knife, and if a republican fights back at all they risk losing your "support"?

I'm going to try and explain this again:

The Right is supposed to be different - better. To play the Left's game just proves that's a lie, so what do you expect?

You're supposed to get smarter, not prove you can be as despicable as they are,...

Larry J said...

The Right is supposed to be different - better. To play the Left's game just proves that's a lie, so what do you expect?

You're supposed to get smarter, not prove you can be as despicable as they are,...


So, telling the truth about Obama being a racist is wrong? That's pretty stupid even for you.

Big Mike said...

There are two sentences in the middle of Friedersdorf's screed that bother me immensely. The first is

These conservatives don't care that President Obama's actual record on racial matters is anything but radical.

@Althouse, when you added "I don't, in fact, agree that Obama has a 'long record of public policy-making" that's entirely devoid of "evidence of racial animosity or radicalism.'" I was a little relieved at the evidence of your sanity. But then in the next sentence you wrote "There's some racial animosity and radicalism here and there," I got upset all over again.

Under Eric Holder's administration the Department of Justice has adopted as its official policy that African-Americans cannot ever be guilty of hate crimes and racial discrimination. In effect, this administration has turned the notion of equal justice before the law into the notion that certain groups are legally privileged due to the injustices of a half century ago. Perhaps this notion is mainstream in the faculty lounges of this country's law schools, but those of us who have to live in the real world think that this is very, very wrong.

Then Friedersdorf's very next sentence is

Nor do they care that his reelection poses zero threat to white people as a class.

The threat is not to white people "as a class," whatever that is supposed to mean. But his reelection is a serious threat to people who want a better life available to our children then we had.

Big Mike said...

The Right is supposed to be different - better. To play the Left's game just proves that's a lie, so what do you expect?

@Crack, devout Christians are supposed to turn the cheek. But where in the Bible does it suggest that they keep on turning. After a while it's time to get down in the gutter with the riff-raff scum and make them sorry they ever started something.

Green said...

So, emcee, exposing how despicable they are is being despicable?

The Crack Emcee said...

If there's one thing I liked about Breitbart, and miss about him, it's that he understood where the line was.

The rest are simply out of control, with no sense of humor and, really, no sense.

It's embarrassing how little composure - and how much desperation - the Right is showing now.

Don't play poker, guys,...

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Christopher in MA said...

What does bother me is that he hasn't fulfilled the dream that many white people projected onto him — with his fully willing encouragement — that he would take us to a higher ground, racially.

"The dream." Based on what, beyond white guilt?

But we, the voters, need to take responsibility for our own vulnerability to the idealistic rhetoric that flows so freely from political candidates.

Easy to say now. Some of that clear-eyed vision would have been useful four years ago.

Right is right! said...

Has anyone noted that Crack,like all black people, identifies himself as black first? He might present himself as a "black conservative" but the black comes first. Typical.

Sloanasaurus said...

Who is Barack Obama. Is he the guy giving this speech with a heavy accent to an all black audience. Or is he the guy talking with a different accent about how he no longer follows reverend wright?

Something about Obama is fake. How can people accept that a person can be this way. It's not acceptable. Its the same thing Yassir Arafat did when he talked peace in english and war in arabic.

How fake is Obama in other areas?? Its pathetic.

Big Mike said...

@Carnifex, I know precisely what you mean. I sent my children to "majority minority" public schools while the liberals of my acquaintance sent theirs to private schools or sold their houses to move into white neighborhoods with negligible minority enrollment in the local schools.

I have relatives who were driven out of South Chicago by Blacks -- and I don't mean that they got frightened and left despite efforts of their new neighbors to live in peace with them. I mean their houses and yards were vandalized despite their own efforts to live in peace with the new neighbors. There was a deliberate policy to drive the honkeys out and they left.

And I've personally spent many nights in North Philly. I've felt the waves of hatred wash over me simply because of my skin color.

I had hoped that I was wrong in 2008 and that Obama really would try to bring peace between the races. From where I sit he has done precisely the opposite. He has to go if we're ever going to fix things.

BarrySanders20 said...

Althouse Update:
"What does bother me is that he hasn't fulfilled the dream that many white people projected onto him — with his fully willing encouragement — that he would take us to a higher ground, racially. But we, the voters, need to take responsibility for our own vulnerability to the idealistic rhetoric that flows so freely from political candidates."

Congratulations. You have just discovered that selling Obama as Mr. Racial Healer Man was really snake oil with a bit of menthol. Who knew?

What do you mean "we"? It's the ones who were so prepared to swallow the elixir when given the opportunity that need to "take responsibility for your own vulnerability." I reject that this vulnerability is caused by vaginas, though I am willing to be convinced otherwise.

From my perspective, i.e. not introspective, this is the rubes self-identifying.

The Crack Emcee said...

Larry J,

So, telling the truth about Obama being a racist is wrong? That's pretty stupid even for you.

What? You don't think this is old news, at best? THAT's the charade you guys are trying to pass off. And where are you truth-tellers on Romney's problems? THAT'S "new" news - but you have no obsession to relay those, correct? Why?

Because you're now practiced liars.

Palladian said...

Unhappy with the lack of attention paid to his embarrassingly stupid "Althouse hillbillies" trolling routine and his racial slur against a black commenter ("pretend negro"), and eager to seed the comments section with "evidence" that this blog is full of "racist wing-nuts", Jay Retread logs out of his "Jay Retread" account and logs in to his "Right is right!" Moby account and posts more tiresomely stupid shit.

Patrick said...

Since when is an idiot with a modem and the NYT comparable?

You're right. The NYT is many idiots, and they also have a printing press.

Sloanasaurus said...

What? You don't think this is old news, at best? THAT's the charade you guys are trying to pass off. And where are you truth-tellers on Romney's problems? THAT'S "new" news - but you have no obsession to relay those, correct? Why?

It's not old news. We need to be re -reminded of these things often so that we don't become complacent with them. Its good to have North Korea around so we can be reminded of the evils of socialism.

It's good to see how fake Obama really is so that we can be reminded that everything he says is more on the fake side than not.

BarrySanders20 said...

I think I said what Crack said. This was obvious four years ago to anyone paying attention.

The reason it's been Drudged up again is to remind people why Obama was elected the fiirst time:

MayBee said...

"old" tape?

The tape is "old"? 5 years is old now?

The Crack Emcee said...

Big Mike,

@Crack, devout Christians are supposed to turn the cheek. But where in the Bible does it suggest that they keep on turning. After a while it's time to get down in the gutter with the riff-raff scum and make them sorry they ever started something.

Nope - that's a rationalization. Jesus got get nailed to a cross, which should tell you the limits:

"Turn the other cheek" is pretty clear-cut.

You don't like it? Resign.

That's your only choice,...

The Crack Emcee said...

Green,

So, emcee, exposing how despicable they are is being despicable?

But you're not "exposing how despicable they are" - plus we know that - you're now only showing how despicable you can be, too.

Kinda defeats the point, don't you think?

Nathan Alexander said...

Did Jesus turn the other cheek when he encountered the moneylenders in the temple?

BarrySanders20 said...

"Jay Retread logs out of his "Jay Retread" account and logs in to his "Right is right!" Moby account and posts more tiresomely stupid shit."

Yep, Palladian. Wright is Wright's sockpuppet is showing again.

Nathan Alexander said...

When you understand the difference between being patience with personal insult/injury and with not tolerating evil/injustice, you can talk about turning the other cheek.

But not until then.

Nathan Alexander said...

Zero has 983 executive orders vs 63 for Bush in less than half the time in power. That's WITH control of both Houses for 2 years.

I'd like a link to where you got this information.

How about Clinton and Reagan on executive order totals?

The Crack Emcee said...

Right is right!,

Has anyone noted that Crack,like all black people, identifies himself as black first? He might present himself as a "black conservative" but the black comes first. Typical.

I realize this guy is a moby, but I wish someone else would set him straight when he tries to pass this bullshit off.

chickelit said...

Tell certain liberals and progressives that you can't bring yourself to vote for a candidate who opposes gay rights, or who doesn't believe in Darwinian evolution, and they'll nod along.

Litmus tests.

Nathan Alexander said...

But you're not "exposing how despicable they are" - plus we know that - you're now only showing how despicable you can be, too.

Showing unedited video of a person's own freely-spoken words is despicable?

That's even dumber than anything shiloh says.

MayBee said...

Althouse- it would be interesting to read what you thought the 'higher ground racially" was going to entail, and how you thought Obama would take "us" there.

chickelit said...

Litmus tests make political analysis easy for those who can't be bothered to think.

The Crack Emcee said...

Palladian,

Unhappy with the lack of attention paid to his embarrassingly stupid "Althouse hillbillies" trolling routine and his racial slur against a black commenter ("pretend negro"), and eager to seed the comments section with "evidence" that this blog is full of "racist wing-nuts", Jay Retread logs out of his "Jay Retread" account and logs in to his "Right is right!" Moby account and posts more tiresomely stupid shit.

Thanks, Bud.

I hadn't gotten down that far yet,...

The Crack Emcee said...

Nathan Alexander,

Did Jesus turn the other cheek when he encountered the moneylenders in the temple?

Another rationalization:

If you're a Christian, he's your boss, and he tells YOU how to behave.

He, apparently, could do what he pleased,...

CWJ said...

Welcome back Palladian!

I Callahan said...

Althouse- it would be interesting to read what you thought the 'higher ground racially" was going to entail, and how you thought Obama would take "us" there.

That would be an interesting answer. However, I don't think she can. It's one of those "I can't give you a definition of porn, but I know it when I see it" kind of things.

BarrySanders20 said...

Maybee,

Your comment made me think of this song, which fits in some of the recent discussion about voting motivation and what certain voters may have felt about Obama. Take me there other Barry!

Life is a mystery, everyone must stand alone
I hear you call my name
And it feels like home

Chorus:

When you call my name it's like a little prayer
I'm down on my knees, I wanna take you there
In the midnight hour I can feel your power
Just like a prayer you know I'll take you there

I hear your voice, it's like an angel sighing
I have no choice, I hear your voice
Feels like flying
I close my eyes, oh God I think I'm falling
Out of the sky, I close my eyes
Heaven help me

(chorus)

Like a child you whisper softly to me
You're in control just like a child
Now I'm dancing
It's like a dream, no end and no beginning
You're here with me, it's like a dream
Let the choir sing

(chorus)

Just like a prayer, your voice can take me there
Just like a muse to me, you are a mystery
Just like a dream, you are not what you seem
Just like a prayer, no choice your voice can take me there

Just like a prayer, I'll take you there
It's like a dream to me

William said...

Every fair person would agree that black people have a right to their grudges. History is what it is. But I think everyone would also agree that, beyond a certain point, rancor is unjustified and self defeating. The anger of the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam is more likely to perpetuate racism than overcome it.....Obama said some factually incorrect things in order to heighten his audience's sense of grievance. That doesn't make him Minister Farrakhan, but it doesn't make him a racial healer either.....There was a New Orleans congressman who diverted an emergency vehicle during the flooding in order to go to his home to pick up his bribe money. To ignore such outrages while manufacturing others is just wrong.......In the 19th century, well bred women liked to pretend that they had transcended base sexual feelings. Oh, sure. In our era, well bred women like to pretend that they have transcended all feelings of racial animus. Oh. sure. Althouse has not achieved transcendence but perversion.

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TreeJoe said...

Crack Emcee said,

"Two things:

1) Nobody's rejecting Romney for the sins of his "church."
"


I'm sorry Crack, was the officiant of Romney's wedding controversial? Did Romney spend 15+ years listening to controversial sermons by this pastor with statements such as,

1. We brought 9/11 on ourselves
2. "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."

...

Now, if Romney's pastor/reverend were making statements of a similar nature, and Romney had named a book after one of his sermons, had him officiate his wedding, and spent over 1.5 decades listening to him and praising him in various speeches...

yeah, then I'd expect such a thing to be scandalous.

The Crack Emcee said...

Sloanasaurus,

It's not old news. We need to be re -reminded of these things often so that we don't become complacent with them.

it IS old news, and you're even admitting it ("We need to be re -reminded of these things,...") how can you be "re -reminded" of what you don't already know?

What you're becoming complacent with - and it's a scary thing to watch - is being manipulated into lying, self-denial, and a whole host of other behaviors that make you Obama's equal, not his better.

Even worse is, you simply don't care you're a tool now,...

The Crack Emcee said...

Nathan Alexander,

Showing unedited video of a person's own freely-spoken words is despicable?

When you're not doing it for both sides? Yeah. That's the problem:

None of you is interested in spreading anything close to the truth - and claiming you're doing so in the name of truth.

What you're doing is lying.

And that's despicable,...

CWJ said...

For me, my eyes have been opened by the althouse two-step. Sins of the left are presented bloodlessly but at least acknowledged. Sins of the right are presented In an emotionally personalized fashion. Sins of the left are acknowledged but leave no lasting mark. Sins of the right are magnified and internalized. This passes for evenhandedness and moderation; but only if ignore Althouse's own words as to which side's actions actually affect her.

Its a sham and I'm done. I'm glad Palladian is back, but as for me, I think I'll just go back to reading this blog rather than actively commenting.

Paul Zrimsek said...

I could certainly get on board with the idea that Obama is entitled to believe or even say whatever he likes so long as he doesn't try to turn it into public policy-- but only if the rest of us get cut that same amount of slack. No sign of that yet, certainly not around here.

The Crack Emcee said...

TreeJoe,

I'm sorry Crack, was the officiant of Romney's wedding controversial? Did Romney spend 15+ years listening to controversial sermons by this pastor with statements such as,

1. We brought 9/11 on ourselves
2. "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."

...

Now, if Romney's pastor/reverend were making statements of a similar nature, and Romney had named a book after one of his sermons, had him officiate his wedding, and spent over 1.5 decades listening to him and praising him in various speeches...

yeah, then I'd expect such a thing to be scandalous.


Why does it have to be an apples/apples - oranges/oranges comparison? Why can't it be "these guys did this dirty shit, and these guys - because they're different people with a different outlook from a different part of the country - did this dirty shit"? I'll tell you:

Because you have no interest in the truth.

None of you are interested in serving the interest of the truth, or the country, or our politics even:

You are part of the problem and refuse to back away from being so,...

Aridog said...

R is R said ...

Has anyone noted that Crack,like all black people, identifies himself as black first?

Bullshit. 98% of Crack's comments do no such thing. And WTF do you mean "like all black people?" How many black Americans do you know? "All?" Hey, put up a Blogger "profile" with a photo, you know, the one with the white pointy hood.

How many other non-central European Americans do you know? How many "black," "tan" or "brown" folk live near by you, and how many do you associate with frequently?

I don't like Obama's race pandering, and I like your kind even less...however, both are essentially the same thing, you and Obama have a lot in common.

When Obama spoke of little or no federal response to Katrin in New Orleans, he was full of shit. Not guessing, I know, I was fucking there. Our teams arrived 2 days before land fall....white and black alike...and were still there when Obama gave that lying bitch ass speech.

So, you give him a hand up in his race bullshit with your race bullshit. Maybe he'll give you a job as poster boy for that part of the campaign.

MayBee said...

Wasn't the great "N*ggerhead Rock" story unleashed on Perry by the New York Times?

Pogo said...

@Aridog

RisR is a moby.

Just ignore it.

TreeJoe said...

Crack,

You are projecting man. You don't even name the "truth" you are referring too - just producing a blanket statement.

I'm tired of politicians. I'm tired of big problems being kicked down the road and made worse in the process.

I want a basic social safety net that provides emergency medical services, prevents hunger, and prevents homelessness short of psychological issue or continuous terrible decision making.

After that, I want the federal government sticking to things it needs to: trade, foreign relations, national projects, defense,etc.

So you can see, Obama's policies do not work for me. I could still like him if he was a unifier. If he acted presidential. If his first instinct was to defend the U.S. - for example, if he said, "I don't agree with that video but I'll defend to the death the right for someone to say those offensive things."

Republicans, as a whole, don't interest me either. But there are some exceptions. There are some principled folk. Ryan is one of them; there's a few others.

I look to people's actions to determine "the truth". What do you look at?

edutcher said...

MayBee said...

Wasn't the great "N*ggerhead Rock" story unleashed on Perry by the New York Times?

WaPo, but, hey, it's distinction without difference.

Jay said...

William said...
Every fair person would agree that black people have a right to their grudges


Bullshit.

If you were a victim of Jim Crow, then you have standing to hold a grudge.

If you're 22 and standing on the corner in Baltimore dealing drugs with an EBT card in your pocket, it isn't "reasonable" for you to hold a grudge against a white person.

Larry J said...

The Crack Emcee said...
Larry J,

So, telling the truth about Obama being a racist is wrong? That's pretty stupid even for you.

What? You don't think this is old news, at best? THAT's the charade you guys are trying to pass off. And where are you truth-tellers on Romney's problems? THAT'S "new" news - but you have no obsession to relay those, correct? Why?

Because you're now practiced liars.


It isn't my job to point out Romney's shortcomings as a candidate. That's Obama's problem. It's stupid to think that Republicans should go around trashing their own candidate, joining the Democrats and the Press (but I repeat myself).

This video is "old news" only in the fact that it's from 2007. The Press was there and deemed it "not newsworthy" because they didn't want the message about an up and coming Democrat to get out. I guarantee you that this is the first time almost anyone has seen the complete video.

Valentine Smith said...

Nathan Alexander
"I'd like a link to where you got this information."

Powerline.com and it's wildly inflated.

Actual numbers:

Barack Obama (2009-Present)
EO's 13489 - 13623 = 134

George W. Bush (2001-2009)
EO's 13198-13488 = 290

William J. Clinton (1993-2001)
EO's 12834-13197 = 363

George Bush (1989-1993)
EO's 12668-12833 = 165

Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
EO's 12287-12667 = 380

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html

Matt said...

TreeJoe
What do you mean by 'principled folk'? It seems to me that when people say that what they really mean to say is they like someone who thinks like they do.

If you truly like principled folk then you would have to like right wing dictators and communist dictators as well. The key is what principle.

I personally do not see Ryan more principled than Obama. Although he is probably more principled than Romney. However when one runs for president one tends to stretch themselves any which way to win. Anyone too principled would probably not win or even get nominated. But the appearance of being principled! Now, there's something. That could work... and has.

Coketown said...

I don't think Conor is being fair. The point of addressing Obama's race baiting is to join the left's monologue concerning issues of race. That seems to be all the left cares about, considering all statements by Republicans are critiqued racially. Skinny is "code" for black, etc. Obama is scrutinized more rigorously because he's black, etc. The left finds it unacceptable to talk about issues of substance, like Obama's reneged promises, his cronyism, fast and furious, targeted assassinations, vastly expanded electronic surveillance, etc. These issues are entirely ignored by the left, when it was all the rage during the Bush years. So what's a chatterbox conservative to do when nothing he says is considered by the left? Talk about what they're talking about, of course. Race! That's the ticket. But, oh no, it's being ignored again. Hey guys. Aren't you watching? Obama is being egregiously racist. He's affecting a phony accent and raising racial animosity against white people. Isn't this the in-thing? Isn't this what causes you all to lather in seething disgust when you think such things are found in the subtext of conservative speech? Why the sudden lack of interest? Ok, fine. What do you want to talk about?

You can see why this is frustrating. Our national dialogue is entirely ungratifying. At least during the Bush years there was a dirty, malicious, unscrupulous back-and-forth between two sides that hated each other. Now it's just one insular side rolling their eyes about the other.

damikesc said...

If the New York Times was constantly searching for archival footage to prove that Mitt Romney doesn't like black people, or that he is "whipping up race hatred," the conservative media would accuse them of frivolously ignoring the actual issues that this election ought to turn on.

Washington Post published a false story about him bullying a presumed gay kid when Mitt was in high school.

Just noting that the press has done far worse...

What does it take to make five-year-old remarks the biggest story of the moment in conservative media? A racial angle. That's all it ever takes.

I should, again, note that the press used a FIFTY-YEAR OLD EVENT --- that likely never happened --- to paint Romney as anti-gay.

And for any faults he has, Crack does not play the race card to any appreciable degree. His anti-Mormon crusade is a bit tiresome, but he isn't playing martyr.

Matt said...

Yes, the Obama executive order falsehood has to be put to rest.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/executiveorders.asp

He's done far fewer than any president in 100 years. Even JFK and Gerald Ford did more.

The Crack Emcee said...

TreeJoe,

Crack,

You are projecting man. You don't even name the "truth" you are referring too - just producing a blanket statement.


Something objective Americans can judge accordingly:

For instance, to harp on Reverend Wright - when Romney said that Obama would make this a less Christian nation - while insisting the Mormon church's BS is off-limits is disingenuous at best.

Romney said that on Hannity's show, too, BTW.

Why not admit they're all playing us? That would be the truth. That would be a help. That would be a patriot looking out for the country.

Or flip it around:

To harp on Romney's Bain Capital, or Salt Lake Olympics fiascos - but leave out Obama's financial connections to Bill Ayers - is just as wrong.

In their partisan zeal, no one is interested in exposing anything close to an accurate picture of what Americans should know about these two men (and, maybe more importantly, their associates) they so fervently want to lead this nation.

Each presents one side of a badly warped picture, claiming it's "the truth."

Of course, the media is the worst offender here - this is supposed to be their job - but, right now, it's the blogosphere that's pissed me off the most because the claim was they were going to be answer to this very problem.

But, instead, everybody's lying now,...

The Crack Emcee said...

Larry J,

It isn't my job to point out Romney's shortcomings as a candidate. That's Obama's problem.

Oh, my bad, I thought you were a citizen.

It's stupid to think that Republicans should go around trashing their own candidate, joining the Democrats and the Press (but I repeat myself).

My bad again - I put "We The People" above the political ambitions of the parties desiring to rule us - is that wrong?

This video is "old news" only in the fact that it's from 2007.

No, it's old news because it doesn't tell me anything I didn't already know.

The Press was there and deemed it "not newsworthy" because they didn't want the message about an up and coming Democrat to get out.

Hey, Romney revealed he doesn't understand one lick about science to The Washington Examiner - a conservative paper - should we just say The Press was there and deemed it "not newsworthy" because they didn't want the message about an up and coming Republican to get out?

Aren't they, too, just as guilty - and is that your idea of serving the national interest?

I guarantee you that this is the first time almost anyone has seen the complete video.

And I guarantee you I'm barely stifling a yawn,...

Revenant said...

If the New York Times was constantly searching for archival footage to prove that Mitt Romney doesn't like black people, or that he is "whipping up race hatred,"

"If"?

Molly said...

You call it idealistic rhetoric, I call it Nuremberg Rally-style falsehood.

The only way for us voters to "take responsibility" for what flows from our politicians is, in this particular case, by voting out of office the source of the effluent.

Synova said...

If there WAS archival footage that showed Mitt Romney whipping up raical hatred or lying about what the government did to eff over white people...

...I think that the NYT should be showing it!

What is it about this that I'm missing?

Where is the double standard? We heard all about the racist rock and Perry even though he had nothing to do with it and his family painted it over. A Republican can destroy his entire career by the foolish uttering of a single word that someone sees as racist.

If there was archival footage of Romney that was *homeopathic* white supremist, we'd see it all day long. If Ryan wore black face for a high school play because the play had a black character he would have to work in the private sector.

Explain the double standard to me.

Yes, conservatives complain about the made up stuff like the racist rock, but this premise that we *wouldn't* want to know if there was archival footage of Romney being a racist jack ass assumes some pretty vile things about conservatives.

And figure, if the assumption demands that nature of conservatives who supposedly "don't want to know", what does the equivalent say about liberals?

Amartel said...

It's exploitative to show a video of St. Barry the Bountiful exploiting black people. A video that was suppressed by the Palace Guard media (they were all there) because it makes their candidate look bad. It's all the fault of the right. Waah. (Wait, what?)

Bullshit to all of this. To the article's frail thesis that the right should not expose the left's racial hypocrisy and demagoguery, to Althouse for continuing to maintain that Obama's racial grievance mongering is a minor thing (CWJ, above, is right), and to Crack Emcee's vague rules about what is appropriate for the right.

Obama's fully paid up and ongoing enthusiastic membership in the church of black liberation theology is old news, IF you've been paying attention. Meanwhile I doubt anyone with a pulse and a brain cell is unaware that Romney is a Mormon. (The brain cell requirement excludes the idiots found by Howard Stern and their like.) A lot of people already know that Mormons have some very odd religious beliefs, but most people do not know the racism and hypocrisy inherent in black "christian" theology and how it affects the governing principle on the left. That is fair game. Especially coming straight from Obama himself, the same guy who told us he rejected Rev. Wright, but only when his grotesque racism was inconveniently publicized.

The article argues that the right should not publicize the left's hypocrisy on race because the right does not like it when the left publicizes its hypocrisy. Except there is all the evidence in the world that the left's publicity machine, the Palace Guard, lies all the time, covers up, distorts, suppresses, excerpts selectively as a matter of course. The left's "exposure" of the hypocrisy of the right these days consists of lying all the time. That's the other half of the relevancy of this video, that it was suppressed by the media. It does not matter whether the author of the article disapproves of Obama and says he won't vote for him; he's still working for and protecting the left.

"The right is supposed to be different, better." It is, if you prefer smaller, efficient, constitutional government. You do have to understand that this will never be perfectly realized, there will never be the perfect candidate. Apparently Paul Ryan isn't even good enough for you. You live in a state of perpetual outrage. "There's a line that's not supposed to be crossed." What. The. Fuck? Vague bullshit rules that will guarantee defeat, permanently, of the principle of smaller, efficient, constitutional government. Yes, let's give the Obama cult free rein for another four years rather than vote for a Mormon. That's rational thinking.

Colonel Angus said...

The reality is that Obama can do or say anything, anything at all and there will be a large segment of the electorate that will still support him.

Teflon President indeed.

sane_voter said...

Uh-oh.
Now Ann is over at Instapundit throwing out the GOP is ugly for publicizing this 2007 video and the Obamaphone lady and she can't vote for such ugly people.

But Rev. Wright is A-OK!

Biden, "Put you back in chains" is A-OK!

Got it.

Scott M said...

"When a company town sees its plant closing because some distant executives made some decision despite the wage concessions, despite the tax breaks, and they see their entire economy collapsing, they feel violence,”

...said a man who's never experienced actual violence...ever.

James said...

So President Obama puts on a minstrel show, doing an Al Sharpton impersonation, and it is racial demagoguery to just show him doing it? Really?