August 23, 2012

McCaskill 48%, Akin 38%.

Rasmussen, today.

64 comments:

Andy R. said...

Now that Akin is toast, we should talk about how the official RNC platform and VP candidate Ryan both don't believe in a rape exception for abortion.

Andy R. said...

It's pretty obvious how to defeat the Christianists in America. We just have to ask them to explain to America what they believe.

Their idiocy and illogical and hate is so self-evident that the vast majority of America recoils in horror and rejects them.

Shouting Thomas said...

Get a life, Andy

Quaestor said...

How do you stand on the death penalty for rapists, askewhatguy?

AprilApple said...

Since rape resulting in pregnancy is at .0005% - this is a big deal!

Rape. Ovulation. Vagina. Death to the fetus. Obama is for partial birth abortion. weee.

Salamandyr said...

Andy, do you believe that a woman 39 weeks pregnant has the right to an abortion?

Sorun said...

Their idiocy and illogical and hate is so self-evident that the vast majority of America recoils in horror and rejects them.

And yet you have this bizarre obsession about them getting political power.

AprilApple said...

Democrats threw 1.5 million to get Akin elected. It's paying off.

AprilApple said...

Claire McCaskill is one of the worst money grubbing money wasting senators we have, and we get to keep her. Oh joy.

I hope, at least, she is pro vagina.

bagoh20 said...

"Their idiocy and illogical and hate is so self-evident that the vast majority of America recoils in horror and rejects them."

Then you have something in common, so go outside and play together. The adults have important things to do.

Bob Ellison said...

In the grand scheme of things, this is a good outcome, even for conservatives. Claire McCaskill seems to be a pretty good person, and she's not as stupid as Akin. So she's a Democrat-- so what? Dems will find it difficult to vote leftward next year.

Matthew Sablan said...

"His (Ryan's) view was noticeably absent from the Romney campaign's initial reaction to Akin's comments, which stated: "Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape.""

Ryan's view does not matter here, Romney's view does. Trying to frighten people that Romney would oppose abortion in instances of rape is just uninformed scaremongering.

AprilApple said...

Andy is stuck in a silly Andrew Sullivan Christianist hate loop.

Bob Ellison said...

Well, AprilApple, maybe I'm wrong-- is McCaskill so bad? I'm not from MO, and I haven't seen the evidence. What are the big complaints?

Salamandyr said...

Andy, do you believe that an abortionist should end a 13 year old girls pregnancy without informing either her guardian or the police?

Do you believe that it should be legal to induce labor in a late term pregnant woman, allow the fetus to enter the birth canal, and then shove a scalpel into its head, vacuum its brain out, then dismember it for easier passage out of the woman's body?

Do you believe that a fetus, accidentally born alive after a botched abortion, should be thrown alive into the medical waste disposal, or have its throat slashed by the doctor?

Matthew Sablan said...

I even used HuffPo so I don't have to deal with people trying to discredit the source.

Right is right! said...

He is only down by that little? After the lamestream media and the east coast moderate Republican establishment trashed him? Give him time and he will come back. The good voters of Kansas will not be herded that easily by New York media elites and weak kneed country club Republicans. Romney has shown his true colors with this episode.

Matthew Sablan said...

... the good voters of Kansas?

Salamandyr said...

Quite frankly, the problem is not Todd Akin's position on abortion. It's his moral cowardice in defending it.

AprilApple said...

Well, for starters, Claire went against the voters wishes and voted for ObamaCare, which is very unpopular in MO.

Nathan Alexander said...

There's actually still plenty of time for Akin to get the lead back, as liberal overreaction creates backlash, or as people actually ponder the choice of letting McCaskill stay in office due to one stupid statement by Akin on a topic that probably won't come up in any legislative way during Akin's term.

It would be better if Akin withdrew, maybe.

But if he doesn't, it will be interesting to see how this plays out:

1) If Akin wins, will liberals see this as a rebuke of their ideology, or will they just make disparaging comments about Missouri voters?

2) If Akin loses but the GOP still regains control of the Senate, will liberals rethink their "War on Women" propaganda?

AprilApple said...

Akin's apology was the dumbest most embarrassing thing going.
It's not the rape rape rape, it's his ineptitude.

Right is right! said...

Non-Christians, like Muslims and Jews, who are try to take over this country know that splitting America from its core values will get them closer to their main objectives. Abortion is key to this stratergy. So that is why there is this constant drum beat of making good Americans who believe in life out to be kooks because they oppose the killing of innocent babies. The religions of death have no such quams.

Bob Ellison said...

If Akin wins, will liberals see this as a rebuke of their ideology, or will they just make disparaging comments about Missouri voters?

The question answers itself.

bgates said...

What are the big complaints?

Have there been any pieces of legislation passed during the last four years that you didn't like? Well, she's a Democrat, so she voted for those. She also used taxpayer money to fuel a private plane for close to 100 flights between DC and her home (she said the flights were all within Senate rules but cut a check for $88,000 to the Treasury when the story broke) and failed to pay close to $300,000 in taxes on the same plane.

That's just what wiki lists.

yashu said...

In the grand scheme of things, this is a good outcome, even for conservatives. Claire McCaskill seems to be a pretty good person, and she's not as stupid as Akin. So she's a Democrat-- so what?

For one thing, we need enough Senate votes to repeal Obamacare. MO was one we were counting on. Now it's likely lost to the other side.

chickelit said...

48 + 38 = 86

The other 14% are still hoping for a better outcome.

yashu said...

.. the good voters of Kansas?

Right is right, moby is moby.

bgates said...

Hat, it's the Christians who are the root of your concerns. The problem is too many potential voters will sit the election out, thinking neither party will stand up to their influence. That's why I urge you to go to Charlotte and rally the Democratic Party to take a principled stand and call Christianity stupid and evil.

EMD said...

I think we should really keep obsessing about something that will no doubt fundamentally change our nation's trajectory in the next few months.

Romney's secret plan to establish Mormon Rape Baby Farms is coming along nicely! ... Oops!

Palladian said...

Did you ever notice how Andy R. usually posts the first comment in the threads that he trolls? Think about how pathetic that is... sitting around, refreshing the Althouse page, waiting for a new post, so he can splutter his usual nonsense. Sad, really, especially for someone do young.

Speaking of commenting, I'm going to have to quit until the word verification system gets fixed. I have better things to do than typing in that shit 10 times.

Right is right! said...

Given Romney's own religous back ground is it much of a surprise that he quickly jumped on the anti-Christian bandwagon here?

Chip Ahoy said...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Be an big antagonistic dick thread is down there ↓ one

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

ricpic said...

...Muslims and Jews, who are trying to take over this country...

Together? Muslims and Jews are in cahoots to take over America? Amazing, the stuff you learn on this site.

Chip Ahoy said...

I'm curious no commenters mentioned the possibility of running a 3rd party candidate, given the situation it seems more possible than what happened in Alaska with Lisa Murkowski. Am I missing something important, like dates or something?

Andy R. said...

In answer to your questions, I support the right of a woman to make medical decisions about her body and her pregnancy with the consultation of medical professionals.

I would need to think more about medical professionals reporting to police before I weighed in on that.

purplepenquin said...

I'm curious no commenters mentioned the possibility of running a 3rd party candidate, given the situation it seems more possible than what happened in Alaska with Lisa Murkowski

Commentators may not be saying anything about it, but Sara has.

What I find really interesting is that the same crowd that claims the Walker Recall was "anti-democracy" are now working to overturn a primary election...

creeley23 said...

There's actually still plenty of time for Akin to get the lead back...

Anything's possible, I suppose, but Akin has dropped about twenty points in a week and he's lost the support of the Republican Party.

How can he remain a viable candidate?

Sloanasaurus said...

I still don't get how liberals are able to support aborting a child after 7 months of pregnancy... or even after three months for that matter. It is totally sick. How far is that from just gassing handicap people?

I mean if a gal was pregnant - say at 14 weeks - and a guy came up and stabbed her in the belly for the purpose of killing her unborn child? Why isn't that murder?

leslyn said...

Stay in the race, Todd. We like your combover.

Sloanasaurus said...

Les say you were 6 months pregnant and someone came up and stabbed you in the belly for the sole purpose of murdering your unborn child. Wouldn't that be murder? What if your unborn child was the product of a "forcible" rape. Would it not be murder anymore beause of the rape fact?

Salamandyr said...

In answer to your questions, I support the right of a woman to make medical decisions about her body and her pregnancy with the consultation of medical professionals.

I would need to think more about medical professionals reporting to police before I weighed in on that.


So, you think it's okay then, but you're too weak kneed to say it. You're as big a fanatic as Akin, and just as big a moral coward.

Thank you for the clarification.

chickelit said...

Penis beak misspelled a well-known politician's name for the umpteenth time: Commentators may not be saying anything about it, but Sara has.

It's gotta be purposeful, but why?

Jay said...

Andy R. said...
Now that Akin is toast, we should talk about how the official RNC platform and VP candidate Ryan both don't believe in a rape exception for abortion.


Now that we know you're retarded, we can talk about the fact that the Dem Abortion Platform Does Not Exclude Partial-Birth Abortion.

Note: More people favor restricting abortion in America than favor gay marriage.

Please, please, please make this election about abortion.

Palladian said...

It's gotta be purposeful, but why?

Maybe for the same reason commenter jimbino spells our country's name "Amerika"?

Lem said...

What you do in Missouri matters to millions of Americans.

bbkingfish said...

This is getting too good.

First, the GOP gives us Todd Ryan, then Paul Akin. This on top of nutballs like Ron Rand and Ryan Paul.(They all vote the same and recycle the same 12 talking points.)

Now, they have teed up the Catholic pedophile scandle for the MSM. Cardinal Dolan? What could they be thinking?

Take heart Paterno supporters! Pedophilia is fashionable in the Party of God! (Come to think of it, both Joe and Jerry were big-time GOP fundraisers in PA.)

NAMBLA, Scientology, and atheism have all found a home in the American mainstream under the Republican big tent.

Lem said...

The democrats gave us sheets Bird, a Tax cheat for treasury Secretary.. This on top of nutballs like Charlie Rangel and the Wiener (They all vote the same and recycle the same 12 talking points.)

Matthew Sablan said...

"Pedophilia is fashionable in the Party of God!"

-- To be fair, it wasn't a Republican found in a compromising position with a non-adult.

Amartel said...

Progressive Blob McCaskill did not pay 4 years of taxes, amounting to over $300,000.00 including interest, on her expensive private plane. Oooopsie. Honest mistake.
In addition, she billed the government for her travel on the plane. Ooopsie. Honest mistake.
In addition, she billed taxpayers for purely political use of the plane. Ooopsie. Honest mistake?

Oh, and she voted for Obamacare.
Tax cheat. Hypocrite. Party apparatchik.
This could have been an easy win.

Amartel said...

bbkingfish is trying to start a meem. [Sic.]

Left Bank of the Charles said...

It would appear that of the 9% who have abandoned Akin, 4% went to McCaskill and 5% to some other candidate presumably to be named later.

Now, if no other candidate presents herself, will that 5% or so go back to Akin? That's his only hope.

Nathan Alexander said...

This could have been an easy win.

It may still be.

Things blow over, given time.

Quaestor said...

AndyR wrote:
In answer to your questions, I support the right of a woman to make medical decisions about her body and her pregnancy with the consultation of medical professionals.

The inner weasel strikes.

Askewhatguy opens the discussion with a calumny, and retires with a cowardly evasion... One thing can be said for AndyR, he's consistent.

Issob Morocco said...

Sometimes when it is legitimate stupidity, voters minds will shut down and not accept that.

In this case that appears to be the medical occurence!

Mr. Akins your Missouri Village is calling you home.

CWJ said...

Claire Mac was also one of the very first to throw in with Obama during the 2008 primary battles. For Obama critics that alone may be sin enough.

It gave Obama significant female cred at a time when breaking ranks with Hilary was still the exception rather than the rule. It was a high risk move for Claire Mac at the time, and to my knowledge I've not noticed any reciprocity from the white house for Claire or MO in return. You'd think that we would at least have gotten more than our fair share of stimulus money out of the deal.

Bottom line - she's done much for Obama and democrat initiatives in the senate, but what has she done for MO?

bbkingfish said...

Matthew Sablan said...

"-- To be fair, it wasn't a Republican found in a compromising position with a non-adult"

Not true, Matt. Sandusky was definitely GOP. And Paterno was Mr. GOP in PA.

You remember his seconding speech for GHW Bush at the '88 convention, don't you? He really brought down the house. The good folks of the Moral Majority ate it up and begged for more, as I recall.

As recently as a year ago, any GOP official in PA would have told you to expect a 10-point win for the ticket. It didn't matter who the Republicans ran, so they said. That's how unpopular Obama was.

But all that's changed now. It must be nearly two months since I've seen a Romney campaign ad on Pittsburgh TV. A smattering of SuperPAC ads; that's it. I don't think Romney/Ryan even has a campaign office in town, which surely must be a first. If they have one, their campaign website doesn't list it, and the phone number must be unlisted. The ticket is way behind in PA, and is sinking fast. If PA already is off the table, I have a hard time believing Romney/Ryan has much of a chance nationally in November, although much ink is left to be spilled, and air time filled, about the purported horse race.

What could have caused this dramatic sea change, Matt? It sure as hell isn't anything Obama said or did.

Here are some articles by a member of one of the best-known conservative families in the state. His brother was the first guy to take on Specter, back in the '92 Senate primary, and was the originator, as far as I know, of what is now known as the Akin/Ryan approach to abortion in the case of rape. The author's take on the PSU affair probably is a little different than what you've been reading.

If Obama retains office on November 6, I would expect the Justice Department to announce an investigation of our attorney general/governor's handling of the Sandusky investigation somewhere around November 7. (Who do you suppose put the arm on those Second Mile board members for the $640,000 in contributions for Corbett, Matt? I have a guess, or maybe two.)

http://freindlyfirezone.com/national-news/item/231-gov-corbett-could-have-stopped-sandusky-but-didn%E2%80%99t

Revenant said...

I support the right of a woman to make medical decisions about her body and her pregnancy with the consultation of medical professionals.

So women only have the right to make choices regarding their bodies if they talk to a doctor first?

How radically anti-choice of you, hat guy. :)

Jay said...

bbkingfish said...

Not true, Matt. Sandusky was definitely GOP. And Paterno was Mr. GOP in PA.


Paterno donated $500 to Obama in 2008.

You can't make a post here without lying.

Jay said...

bbkingfish said...
It must be nearly two months since I've seen a Romney campaign ad on Pittsburgh TV. A smattering of SuperPAC ads; that's it. I don't think Romney/Ryan even has a campaign office in town, which surely must be a first. If they have one, their campaign website doesn't list it, and the phone number must be unlisted


Romney is running ads every evening in PA you propagandist.

Oh, and here is the Romney Pittsburgh office contact info which can be found in 30 seconds on Google:

Pittsburgh Victory Center


Phone: 412.513.7489

100 Fleet Street
Pittsburgh, PA, 15220


Do you enjoy coming to the Internet to beclown yourself?

harrogate said...

Nathan queries:

"1) If Akin wins, will liberals see this as a rebuke of their ideology, or will they just make disparaging comments about Missouri voters?"

Well, we might see many liberals do both of these things at the same time. I myself would probably engage in a bit of both, were Akin actually to win a Senate seat.

Thank goodness conservatives don't make disparaging comments about voters in liberal states. "Anti-American," "elitist," etc. Those would be the sort of terms that the Althouse comment boards would hardly recognize!


"If Akin loses but the GOP still regains control of the Senate, will liberals rethink their "War on Women" propaganda?"

That's an interesting question. One of the things it assumes (by labeling it "propaganda") is that liberals do not believe that there is such a thing as a GOP "War on Women," but only talk about it to persuade "swing voters."

I think, on balance, that assumes a degree of bad faith that just isn't there in the arguments liberals are making when it comes to social issues.

bbkingfish said...

Jay said...

"Romney is running ads every evening in PA you propagandist.

Oh, and here is the Romney Pittsburgh office contact info which can be found in 30 seconds on Google:

Pittsburgh Victory Center


Phone: 412.513.7489

100 Fleet Street
Pittsburgh, PA, 15220"

100 Fleet Street appears to be a vacant building in the Borough of Green Tree.

The phone number is a Sprint cell phone; no answer, but the voice message indicates it belongs to some guy named "Bob." It doesn't sound very official. No call back yet from "Bob," but I'll keep you posted. And, BTW, there still is no listing for Pittsburgh, address or phone, on the official R/R 2012 campaign website.

Don't believe the first thing that pops up on Google, kid.

As I said, the only ads I've seen on Pittsburgh TV have been SuperPAC ads; none from the R/R Campaign. That doesn't mean there aren't any; it may surprise you, but I don't monitor my TV 24x7.

By the way, I've noticed a marked similarity between your posting style and that of Matthew Sablan.
You both seem to be devotees of the "Liar, liar, pants on fire," school of argumentation.

You guys both in the same junior high school?

Eustace Chilke said...

Akin is as arrogant as he is foolish. The Missouri Republican party is just as stupid or more. It was no secret who McCaskill wanted to run against and what she was doing to get her chosen opponent nominated.

She's doing everything she can right now to save him. No negative ads here yet. They'll wait to see if his ego will keep him in the race. After the 25th of next month his name will appear on the ballot even if he's dead on election day. After that they'll plaster him.

In the meantime they don't even have to do anything. He's down over 20 points in the polls and still plunging. But he gives no sign he will quit. This moron thinks he can take a campaign that relied on the loon wing of his base state wide and win. Blinded by ego.

If he's determined to kamikaze this race the Republicans should refuse to caucus with him should he, by some miracle, win. And announce it now. Because he says he can still win and he needs to be persuaded that it's no use. There is no measure too extreme if necessary to get this crap weasel out of the way.

Dante said...

Now that Akin is toast, we should talk about how the official RNC platform and VP candidate Ryan both don't believe in a rape exception for abortion.

Andy, please provide your definition of when life begins and ought to be protected by law.