July 23, 2012

"Three teenagers accused of killing a 62-year-old father-of-12 in West Rogers Park were playing a game called 'Pick 'em out and knock 'em down' when they videotaped themselves punching him in the face..."

They were caught after they posted the video on Facebook.
Similar attacks — some resulting in death — have previously been reported in Missouri, New Jersey and Decatur. The game also goes by the name “Knockout King,” and experts say it is a grab for attention....

“We know that juveniles don’t think out consequences clearly,” Beth Huebner, an associate professor of criminology at the University of Missouri-St. Louis, told the Associated Press after a 72-year-old Vietnamese immigrant was killed in another “Knock ‘em out” case in St. Louis last year.

“They see something on YouTube and say, ‘I want to get that sort of attention, too.’ They don’t think about the person they’re attacking maybe hitting their head."

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Dust Bunny Queen said...


I'm not puzzled that liberals are so stupid. I am puzzled that people so stupid can have such a remarkably high opinion of their own intelligence.


That is because they mostly hang around each other. Never have any challenging conversations with people who disagree with them. Since the echo chamber that they live in is a comforting cocoon where everyone things the same things.

Like little bobble head dolls they nod in unison without really thinking about the ramifications of their thoughts or the veracity of their regurgitate opinions.

If they are suddenly confronted with a disturbing difference of opinion, they must put their fingers in their ears and go-----> la la la I can't hear you.

To do otherwise would be to expose that your entire intellectual framework is a lie.

AndyN said...

garage mahal said...

Interesting stats from the CDC: Here

Gun Deaths by State per 100,000 population. Look to be the deep red states.

This simply cannot be true, since it goes against almost everything I read here. Hmmph.


From the site that AlterNet lifted the map from: "Note that these figures include accidental shootings, suicides, even acts of self-defense, as well as crimes."

Because obviously people bent on killing themselves wouldn't bother if they didn't have access to a firearm. And a law-abiding citizen with a carry permit should just acquiesce to having a thug beat him to death rather than add to the gun death toll in the process of saving his own life.

I'd actually be interested to see this data broken out into separate maps for accident, suicide, homicide and self-defense. I bet one of those would still have a strong correlation between number of deaths and number of McCain voters. The other three, maybe not so much.

garage mahal said...

No, your link was snarky anti-Conserativism bullshit on a post that has nothing to do with gun control, gun deaths, or gun laws.

Perhaps I should have directed it at one of Pogo's posts in hindsight, as that's who I think I was responding to. My bad.

But, would you like to file a Butthurt Report Form?. Or are you going to be alright?

Penny said...

Two on one in surprise attack using fists + video bragging rights = GAME!

Rusty said...

Andy
What you want are the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics.


Garage and intellectual honesty don't meet up too often.

Freeman Hunt said...

The prison probably doesn't stock Ovid or Cicero. So much for being Latin Kings.

Penny said...

This list of "Things That City Kids Don't Understand" is enormous!

Perhaps it would be easier to ask them exactly what it is they DO understand?

And I'm damned serious about this. I really want to know.

Michael K said...

The CDC has been on a campaign to ban guns for years. Now, they are nail guns ! The whole public health segment of the medical profession is heavily lefty. The members are all government employees or academics. They include guns as a "cause of disease." It's a racket.

Penny said...

Special message to Civil Rights activists:

I have no interest in what you have to say. You gave up the right to speak for ANYONE when you chose to not be part of educating those you claim to represent...oh sooooo many years ago now.

Penny said...

Games are fun.

As long as you can convince yourself that you're "WINNING"!

ricpic said...

...what is it they DO understand?

They dimly understand white fear. Ergo: GIBSMEDAT!

Penny said...

Hey, Charlie Sheen has recent "Winning"!! experience. How about we put him in charge of a focus group to hear out what the Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's understand?

Would it seem rude to open up this group to members of the NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus?

Hell, I don't know? Maybe I should just leave this in Charlie Sheen's hands.

Brian Brown said...

garage mahal said...


My link didn't contain anyone calling for more gun control.


Do you ever get tired of proving how stupid you actually are?

Penny said...

Yeah, I know. I let the sarcasm get the best of me there.

But I meant it when I said that I really want to hear what city kids "understand"... when other...more important people...who let them down... are shown over and over again...of being INCAPABLE of speaking for them...and resolving what have become...nearly INTRACTABLE societal problems...that they, themselves have benefited from.

Penny said...

Maybe I should take DBQ and Allie Oop along to make sure my head and heart stay in flux, and therefore, somehow balanced.

Good ladies, both.

garage mahal said...

Do you ever get tired of proving how stupid you actually are?

No! It's fun actually watching you flail away and get so frustrated when an objection to your esoteric wingnut bullshit arises.

CLUE: Saying "you're stoopid!", on its own, doesn't win a lot of arguments on the internet.

ampersand said...

The Latin Kings must be celebrating diversity and inclusivity now,both among their members and their victims.

The media has come a long way as well,in the old days assaults on non-minorities rarely saw the light of day.

William said...

On the bright side, the Latin Kings are apparently now inclusive enough to accept black kids with anglo names. The KKK, for a long time now, has accepted Catholics, and it's only a matter of time before they start accepting black members who can prove Confederae ancestry. By such fits and starts does America evolve into a more tolerant society......It won't happen, but if some of those people who were so outraged at the Zimmerman case expressed similar outrage at this happening, it would help difuse some of the resentment that a crime like this engenders. If you wish us to believe that such a crime is not stereotypical, then ostracize the offenders.

Brian Brown said...

garage mahal said...

No! It's fun actually watching you flail away and get so frustrated when an objection to your esoteric wingnut bullshit arises.


Um, except your link calls for gun control when you said it did not.

And you can point to no instance anywhere, at all, where I've posted "bullshit"

Idiot.

Big Mike said...

The subculture that these teenagers belong to has been studied and studied and studied. But no one seems able to believe the research.

Item: The money in your pocket isn't really yours. It's theirs. It just happens to be temporarily in your pocket.

Yeah, seriously. That's what they believe.

They don't expect to live to see 21, so threats of punishment, up to and including execution for murder, don't have much impact on them.

Again, seriously.

So what can one do with them? They're amoral, nihilistic, and expect to die young. I don't think anyone knows.

garage mahal said...

Um, except your link calls for gun control when you said it did not.

My link didn't call for gun control. If it did, you would paste it.

Triangle Man said...

@Rocketeer

You can go to CDC Wonder and make maps however you like. If you look at gun homicides, the "blue" states that have high rates are IL, MD, DE, and DC.

AndyN said...

The KKK, for a long time now, has accepted Catholics, and it's only a matter of time before they start accepting black members...

I won't post links because a lot of them lead to some pretty objectionable stuff, but all you have to do is google "black klan member". The Klan is a branch of the democratic party, I doubt they'd turn down anybody who's willing to pay the membership fee.

Paul said...

"Should we just ban fists now? LOL! "

Well in the U.K. they ban knives (including boy scout knives) and anything that is a 'offensive weapon'. Even the Surefire E2D defender flashlight is banned.

There are MPs that want to ban the teaching of martial arts to.

So while they may not ban 'fist' they may ban teaching of effective hand to hand self defense.

Jeremy said...

This "game" has been going on in St. Louis city for quite some time now. Several years.

The local newspaper (we only have one) tries to cover it up though, either hides the mention of it or omits it.

Known Unknown said...

But, would you like to file a Butthurt Report Form?. Or are you going to be alright?

I'm not butthurt, I'm just calling you out.

Fernandinande said...

Sowell: A Censored Race War?

ken in tx said...
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ken in tx said...

The Klan exists mostly in the minds of the Southern Poverty Law Center and a few skin head drunks hanging out in biker bars. The Klan as an active organization has been disestablished through civil lawsuits. For example, all Klan property in Alabama was seized and turned over to the NAACP.

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