May 25, 2012

"Literally, it’s called ‘he who is inserted by his fellow man into his throat,’ about oral sex between two men."

"It doesn’t say it is permitted, but it doesn’t use the word ‘abomination’... and I was so happy, I called my friends in Baltimore. This was the first time I had ever seen a loophole that allowed me to have a sex life within a halachic framework.”

Says Y-Love — Yitz Jordan — "who decided to become Jewish at 6 years old, after seeing a 'Happy Passover' announcement on TV." Jordan is black (and a rapper) and says he's always known he is gay. 

I'd like a link to that powerful ad, and I have not done my own research on that text with the loophole. 

18 comments:

chickelit said...

Didn't read the link. Is this guy looking for a legal loophole to avoid the proverbial poophole, or just a law with some teeth?

bagoh20 said...

It's very hard to get a meeting with God's lawyer. He's quite good, fully booked, and expensive. Until you've had that meeting though, I would be careful about investing too much in a perceived loophole. It might be there, but you don't want to end up in court against that dude - ruthlessly deep pockets.

deborah said...

Well played, chick. I just think he needs some lovin' any which way.

Richard Dolan said...

However you say it and in whatever form you prefer it, love is a many splendored thing. More, please.

chickelit said...

@Richard Dolan: But isn't he just talking about dull sublunary lovers' love?

edutcher said...

Last I looked, the God of Israel wasn't noted for his sense of humor and had a sign over his desk that said, "There is no plea bargain in Heaven".

Pete said...

Aaaaand, after only 6 comments, Chickelit wins the thread!

The Crack Emcee said...

"This was the first time I had ever seen a loophole that allowed me to have a sex life within a halachic framework.”

Your whole life is a search for a loophole, just so you can put your dick in it.

I have nothing against gays, but the/this mindset is sickening,...

virgil xenophon said...

Lets not get sucked into any potentially untoward biting commentary; rather we should try hard to stiffen our resolve not to swim in the potentially turgid sociall waters the thrust of this commentary hints at. Rather, we should remain open wide to the various possibilities for deep, penetrating insights about the nature of various sticky situations one may potentially find oneself encased in while, of course, remaining alert to the role that naked ambition plays in the minds of those who would reveal themselves as people who would eagerly prostitute themselves for shameless personel gratification.

greenlantern said...

I thought it was about sex with a Hollaback Girl. Now I'm losing interest.

virgil xenophon said...

Lets not get sucked into any potentially untoward biting commentary; rather we should try hard to stiffen our resolve not to swim in the potentially turgid sociall waters the thrust of this commentary hints at. Rather, we should remain open wide to the various possibilities for deep, penetrating insights about the nature of various sticky situations one may potentially find oneself encased in while, of course, remaining alert to the role that naked ambition plays in the minds of those who would reveal themselves as people who would eagerly prostitute themselves for shameless personel gratification.

virgil xenophon said...

Sorry, I know I'm incorrigable, and undoubtedly a bad, bad, person, but once was enough..

chickelit said...

@virgil: You should lay prostate with shame for that!

Penny said...

But twice is even better, virgil!

Penny said...

Have some empathy, virgil.

It's HARD "coming out".

First 13, then 15, and now just before the release of a new single.

YoungHegelian said...

So many folks look at other religions as if the default settings were those of Christianity. Well, they're not. To wit:

1) If you're not ethnically Jewish you really can't be an Orthodox Jew. Maybe, just maybe, you can be a guy & convert if you marry a Jewish girl, but even that is iffy. But, if your mother isn't Jewish, you aren't Jewish. "I want to be an Orthodox Jew" just doesn't cut it. God chose His people, and you weren't invited to the party. Live with it.

2) Searching for loopholes in a well-known biblical text is a fool's errand. There is upon every bit of text heaps & heaps of rabbinic commentary. If your loophole is way out of line with those commentaries, you're screwed.

3) Guys, do you think in a faith that makes one keep two sets of dishes so that a speck of meat doesn't touch a speck of dairy lest a "kid ...be boiled in its mother's milk" (building a fence around the Torah), it's ever going to be okay to smoke pole? Have you ever heard the phrase "unclear on the concept"?

Methadras said...

It's utterly pathetic that again, another homosexual has to look through the cracks of law, morals, and society to justify his existence because he's really ashamed of it. BTW, has he rocked the mic with the pantyhose?

Palladian said...

This guy is the kind of person the kids call a "hot mess".

I don't need a rabbi to tell me that sucking cock is OK!

Being a queer near a huge Chassidic neighborhood in Brooklyn is interesting... it's astounding how many times one is propositioned by frum men.