May 6, 2012

"George Zimmerman is as black as Obama's son would have been had Obama married a white woman."

Says commenter Hari, at the post "George Zimmerman is 'one-fourth black, four times as black as Warren is Indian, though the New York Times describes him as a "white Hispanic."'"

See also, "Who is this woman?"
Don't you think Genevieve resembles Obama's mother, who was white? Imagine being a heterosexual man and feeling that you weren't supposed to be attracted to a woman who reminds you of your mother. There's this alternate never-to-be-written Obama search-for-identity book titled "Dreams From My Mother."
And "Obama — trying to be 'careful' — addresses the Trayvon Martin killing": "You know, if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon."

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By the way, I assumed it was conventional wisdom that men tend to feel attracted to women who remind them of their mothers, but I can see that I'm being mocked over at a blog I won't link to for referring to that relatively banal reality. Oh, hell, I don't care: here's the link.

It's really astounding how prissy lefties have become over the years. I remember when folk of the left-wing persuasion loved to delve into Freudian analysis. Now, they're so strait-laced about sex. They hew to politically required points about sexual/reproductive freedom, but there's no curiosity, no depth, no originality, no exploration of ideas. So dull!

66 comments:

Peter said...

Not so fast. Latest reports say that Zimmerman had an Afro-Peruvian great grandfather. Even if we are to assume that the ancestor was fully black, being from Peru he was more likely a Zambo, that would make Zimmerman himself one-eighth black. If Obama had married a white woman his son or daughter would be one-quarter black.

Mark O said...

Zimmerman is an octoroon, just like Homer Plessy. I'm sure Ann teaches the case. Plessy was black; Zimmerman, a white Hispanic.

The times and the colors they are a changin'

Ann Althouse said...

The Barone article at the link calls Zimmerman 1/4 black. But he screwed up the math, so all bets are off.

The point is it's all getting ridiculous... if not loathsome.

Expat(ish) said...

I was given the advice to marry a woman "just like your mother."

I remember thinking that I'd love to find an attractive woman who would work full time, raise the kids, cook every meal, and clean the house.

-XC

PS - I was lucky, I found "twue wuve" and we split the chores and kids. But I'm still in charge of bugs and pickle jar lids.

Mark O said...

It's not ridiculous to notice that the race baiters have effectively vilified a black man and called him white in the service of their higher calling.

That seems to be the bet, and it's on.

edutcher said...

As before, Stanley was prettier, softer in her features, more feminine IMHO.

I think the "just like your mother" has more to do with character traits, but, over the years, I have noticed a couple of features my mom and the Blonde share.

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AllieOop said...

We've come a far way baby, from being accused of being sluts, as in the Sandra Fluke episode, to being prudes all in a few months time.

To be clear, it wasn't Ann that called Fluke a slut, but her buddy Limbaugh. I wonder Ann, do you really think conservatives are less prudish and repressed than liberals?

Really? I guess you forgot about the Religious Right.

Sorun said...

I assumed it was conventional wisdom that men tend to feel attracted to women who remind them of their mothers.

Everyone's tastes are different, but I would bet that men are generally sexually attracted to women who differ a bit from the mother/sisters. For example, if the man is white, there's an attraction bias toward an ethnic look (Asian, Latina), but not too far.

geokstr said...

According to a trace of Obama's father's genealogy, there is a strong Arabic component in his bloodline. Arabs are Caucasians; therefore they estimated Obama's actual racial makeup as 85% white/15% black which makes Zimmerman more black than he is.

That's unless the newest theory is true and his real father was Frank Marshall Davis, which would make him 50-50.

Neither option does much for his narrative or his honesty.

EDH said...

"I remember when folk of the left-wing persuasion loved to delve into Freudian analysis."

Peter said...

According to a trace of Obama's father's genealogy, there is a strong Arabic component in his bloodline. Arabs are Caucasians; therefore they estimated Obama's actual racial makeup as 85% white/15% black which makes Zimmerman more black than he is.

Sounds dubious ... photos of Obama pere show him to be just about as dark as a human can be. He was from the Luo tribe, which even other Kenyans consider to be dark.

YoungHegelian said...

@allie,

I, too, remember along with Prof Althouse when lefties used to quote Freud at the drop of a hat. Freud was all about overcoming repression, especially sexual repression, which nasty ole Christianity was really all about. It was really useful talk for getting laid. Forget about the fact that Freud said that that without repression we'd have no civilization.

Matter of fact, even though it was Paul Ricoeur, a relative "rightie" (well, a theist at least) who coined the term the Masters of Suspicion,, it was the lefties who went to town with it.

You don't hear Lefties talk about Nietzsche much anymore, either. He was just too upfront in his lake of sympathy for life's losers, I guess. And, way too upfront in his misogyny.

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The Crack Emcee said...

I can see that I'm being mocked over at a blog I won't link to for referring to that relatively banal reality. Oh, hell, I don't care: here's the link.

And, with that, you escaped my withering criticism and reinforced my image of you as braver than the rest of your type. Definitely braver, and more honest, than Glenn Reynolds. That's how it's done, Ann, and Bravo! to you for recognizing it.

I like being proud of/for you.

Jay said...

It's really astounding how prissy lefties have become over the years.

This presumes it was ever any different.

By the way, not a single one of those comments at that blog had a substantive point. All name calling and screeching.

But remember, we're the dummies.

Jay said...

AllieOop said...
We've come a far way baby, from being accused of being sluts, as in the Sandra Fluke episode, to being prudes all in a few months time.


Wow, reading comprehension fail.

Nowhere did Ann use the term "prudes"

You should start over.

Jay said...

leslyn said...
Hari whoever is perpetuating the stereotype that any amount of "black" blood makes one "black." It's a stereotype with it's roots in slavery, and I wish we'd get over it.


Well you consider Obama black, don't you?

wyo sis said...

I feel like all the oxygen left the room. It's 2012 and we're still talking about race in terms of percentages and relative darkness. So much for how enlightened we've all become.

bagoh20 said...

If family lore is accurate, I'm 1/16 slut, but that does not predict my political views. In the slut community we have all kinds of viewpoints, and we respect them all.

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Carnifex said...

Being as multi-racial as a your average street mutt, I can state with clarity, and clear heart, that I don't dislike Zero because he is black, or part black, or anything. I despise him for what he is doing to the greatest nation ever to exist.

AllieOop said...

Jay, prissy. Nitpicker.

I'm sure Ann would've corrected me if I had strayed too far from her meaning.

Jay said...

AllieOop said...
Jay, prissy. Nitpicker.

I'm sure Ann would've corrected me if I had strayed too far from her meaning.


You strayed very far from the point.

It is actually kind of stunning.

Jay said...

leslyn said...


What a weird thing to say.


Really?

What % of mainstream journalists consider Obama black?

What % of black voters consider Obama black?

Are you really this stupid or just playing games?

AllieOop said...

Good to know Bagoh. I was beginning to worry that all you conservatives were going to become Puritans, so comforting to know there are conservative sluts too.

And do not ever accuse us liberals of being prissy! Such hate speech;)

AllieOop said...

Oh go suck a lemon Jay, you are being nothing more than a contrarian. Since when do you speak for Ann?

Fen said...

Leslyn: He's our first biracial president (as far as we know), and I'm proud of our country for that.

Huh? What exactly are you "proud" of? His race?

Jay said...

AllieOop said...
Oh go suck a lemon Jay, you are being nothing more than a contrarian. Since when do you speak for Ann?


I didn't say I "speak for Ann"

Your inability to read what she wrote and comprehend it is a you problem.

How you can read "They hew to politically required points about sexual/reproductive freedom, but there's no curiosity, no depth, no originality, no exploration of ideas. " and arrive at the conclusion the author is accusing anyone of being a "prude" is astounding.

Fen said...

AllieTheFakeNurse: And do not ever accuse us liberals of being prissy!

...says the woman who had THREE meltdowns after being outed as an imposter.

Jay said...

He's our first biracial president (as far as we know), and I'm proud of our country for that.

Good for you, but what a bizarre thing to say.

In case you haven't noticed, race relations are worsening.

AllieOop said...

Whatever Jay, she was connecting that statement with the notion that liberals were acting, prudish or prissy, because of the comments in the blog she linked to. They were accusing her of being perverted or weird, or drunk.

THAT is the "ideas" she was referring to, man you are thick. And if and until Ann decides to correct me, I will believe my take on it is correct and yours is wrong.

AllieOop said...

Ah FentheWifeAbuser,
Have any murderous ideologies today, any women you want to see raped and then burned? Oh not today? Maybe the meds are kicking in now.

How was your stay in the hospital? I missed you while you were hiding out, or under treatment, for the last few days after embarrassing yourself with your weird comments a few days ago.

AllieOop said...

And FentheWifeAbuser ,
The only one you "outed" on anything was yourself. You showed yourself to be a scary, unstable, person who has visions of gang rapes of murder by burning of women he doesn't know, because of political differences.

You are a strange one Fen, seriously you do need help. It's very evident you have had a break from reality, or maybe Fen's world is your reality and has been for quite sometime.

So if ever you feel like you don't want to live anymore and want to murder someone (your OWN words), I suggest thinking of your wife and kids and the shame you would bestow on them, get help first.

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William said...

If I had a son with Jessica Alba, I bet he'd be better looking than George Zimmerman. Maybe with Selma Hayek, he'd look a little like Zimmerman. With Sotomayor, he'd probably be a lot uglier. But all in all, I'd say it would be difficult for me to have a son who looked like George Zimmerman.

Peter said...

If I had a son with Jessica Alba, I bet he'd be better looking than George Zimmerman. Maybe with Selma Hayek, he'd look a little like Zimmerman.

Not in the case of Salma Hayek. Although she was born in Mexico she has no Amerindian or African ancestry and therefore is not "Hispanic" in the racial sense of the word. Her ancestry is European and Lebanese.

rhhardin said...

they're so strait-laced about sex.

Strait-lacing was the pantyhose of a former era.

Today you'd be pantyhose about sex.

Seeing Red said...

--It's really astounding how prissy lefties have become over the years. I remember when folk of the left-wing persuasion loved to delve into Freudian analysis. Now, they're so strait-laced about sex. They hew to politically required points about sexual/reproductive freedom, but there's no curiosity, no depth, no originality, no exploration of ideas. So dull! ---


They've become what they hate?

I was LMAO because over at The Belmont Club and is "The Superior Man" post. The psychos once again consign conservative thought to we sloped-forehead knuckle-draggers,
but this was the best response I think I've ever seen that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives:

I guess liberals really are smarter than conservatives. The proof would be that many young liberals later change into conservatives. See, that’s being smart.

Seeing Red said...

--No. I'm proud that so much of our country overlooked it.--


Well, that's 1 way to look at it.

Seeing Red said...

The rest of the world, however.....

Alex said...

Allie you putried scum liberal...

To be clear, it wasn't Ann that called Fluke a slut, but her buddy Limbaugh.

when did Ann ever state that Limbaugh was a "buddy"? She listens to him just like she listens to left-wingers, to get all sides. But being the liberal SCUM that you are, you are not in favor of all sides getting a fair hearing.

Seeing Red said...

--To be clear, it wasn't Ann that called Fluke a slut, but her buddy Limbaugh. I wonder Ann, do you really think conservatives are less prudish and repressed than liberals?

Really? I guess you forgot about the Religious Right.--


It depends on the topic, the Religious Left is as well.

Alex said...

libRUL logic is that if you even give someone like Rush the slightest bit of a fair hearing, that's being the equivalent of a KKKRethugliKKKanNaziScum.

Jay said...

AllieOop said...

Whatever Jay, she was connecting that statement with the notion that liberals were acting, prudish or prissy, because of the comments in the blog she linked to


Prudish & prissy are two different words with 2 different meanings.

You should look them up.

Jay said...

leslyn said...

I refer to the President as biracial, which you know and conveniently neglected to include in your rant.


Well good for you.

But that wasn't my point.

You're slower than allioop.

Which says a lot.

AllieOop said...

Alex, you are my good little Moby, hehe.

AllieOop said...

Jay wants to be thought of as a legitamate conservative poster, but he is a Moby whether he knows it or not. Good work Jay, keep it up.

Alex said...

Allie - that you are not intellectually flexible enough to play devil's advocate is your problem. People here have known me since 2008 to wear both hats and they enjoy it. It livens things up.

Steven said...

I think we've had some editing trouble at some point. Given the Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather, Zimmerman's grandmother is fully as black as Obama, but Zimmerman himself would only be 4 times as black as Warren is Indian.

AllieOop said...

Wrong Alex, you show yourself to be a Moby to both the liberal viewpoint and the conservative.

As a matter of fact every time you post a comment it's only to be contrary, which makes you look as if you really have no legitamate stance on any issue, in other words you are a fraud.

Pogo has your number and warned me about you, he was right.

Alex said...

Allie.. it's irrelevant what my personal position is. What's relevant are my arguments. You are obviously intellectually too feeble to decouple the two things. You realize in Socratic dialogues, all that mattered was the reasoning behind the argument, not the credibility of the speaker.

AllieOop said...

Alex, you are here on Althouse for one purpose only, you pretty much admitted that you post comments in bad faith to disrupt the conversation, isn't that against Althouse rules? I wonder why she tolerates you.

By the way, where is your homework Alex? I'm still waiting.

Fen said...

leslyn: He's our first biracial president (as far as we know), and I'm proud of our country for that.

Huh? What exactly are you "proud" of? His race?

Leslyn: No. I'm proud that so much of our country overlooked it.

Overlooked his race? What's wrong with being black, Les?

AJ Lynch said...

So Leslyn, you are proud because voters overlooked Obama's what exactly if not his race or color or appearance?

Alex said...

Allie.. at least I try. All you do is come in here and whine/complain/whine/complain. It's frankly boring. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

AllieOop said...

Alex, funny, but you so remind me of someone or two or three.

I think you have many sockpuppets and you are not a good faith commenter, but as long as Althouse tolerates your bad faith commenting, you'll be here with bells on , all you do is make noise, you have no legitamate argument, don't flatter yourself.

Your schtick is what is boring, that's why most commenters here ignore you.

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Ken said...

AllieOop,

We've come a far way baby, from being accused of being sluts

Of course this completely ignores the fact that women proudly refer to themselves as sluts.

So which is it? A pejorative at which you're outrage or a label you proudly wear?

I'm guessing that for you, as for most lefties, it depends on who says it: conservatives = bad, lefties = good (and actually a compliment).

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David R. Graham said...

"Really? I guess you forgot about the Religious Right."

http://gardenandgun.com/article/southern-women

David R. Graham said...

"Arabs are Caucasians;"

Arabs are Semites. Ask them. Jews they dislike because they believe, not without cause, Jews became Germanic and Slavic following 72AD.

Unknown said...

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1wlgS5ioaU