December 25, 2011

A Christmas poll.

Please read the previous post before answering.

Should we celebrate Christmas?
Yes, because it's a traditional holiday in our culture.
Yes, because it's the day Christ was born (or so they say).
Yes, but we should celebrate on a different day, like maybe December 17th.
No, because it's not good Christianity to celebrate birthdays.
No, because Christians should concentrate on Easter and other days.
No, because Christmas has been degraded by paganism and commercialism.
No, because Christianity is not true.
  
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50 comments:

Jason (the commenter) said...

Yes, because it's fun.

Jason (the commenter) said...

As if you need to appeal to religion or tradition!

Jason (the commenter) said...

Soon many Christians began to join in this pagan festival and the various celebrations that went with it.

Why? Because it was fun. That's the true meaning of Christmas!

C R Krieger said...

"Yes, because it's the day Christ was born (or so they say)."

We didn't need the parenthetical part.

Merry Christmas!

Regards  —  Cliff

Dave said...

You have no option for a believer in your survey as "so they say" ruins the best one. The day of Christmas was chosen, not because Dec 25th was the most likely day of Jesus' birth but because that day fit best at the beginning of the liturgical year. Christmas is celebrated because of St Francis.

traditionalguy said...

Christians believe in an invasion of the human race by a new man who is the eternal Son of God, and still becomes totally human. That tradition needs to emphasize Jesus' natural pregnancy, birth into a normal family ( one that had no idol worship infection), and learned obedience by what he suffered.

That is celebrated as a gift of God's love and joyfully received.

But to unbelievers, all of that is silly nonsense. Who could believe that there is a New Man that lives in us and we in Him?

Michael Haz said...

My only comment today is to wish all a very, very Merry Christmas.

Michael Haz said...
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Ann Althouse said...

"We didn't need the parenthetical part."

What is the basis for certainty that December 25th is the actual date of birth? It's not in the Bible. Does the Pope even think that?

Ann Althouse said...

The parenthetical was to compress the options.

Look, there's Jason saying "because it's fun" should be an option. I could have tried harder to compress "because it's fun" into the first option.

Have some empathy. Making options on a poll isn't easy. There's always somebody saying there's another way of putting it that should have been added as an independent option, and now here you are saying an option needed to be broken into 2 options so that you weren't put in the position of having to vote for something you want to disavow.

Paddy O said...

Because it's fun!!

chickenlittle said...

Merry Christmas, Meadhouse!

The Crack Emcee said...

The only comment I agree with, so far, is Mike Haz's simple "Merry Christmas." Jason and Paddy O's thinking on the subject is shallow. CR Krieger and Dave pick a fight. Tg is Tg, which is admirable, but still.

I say we celebrate Christmas because that's what we do. Fuck the pagans, and the Romans, and the Christians. I was born in 1961, not 61BC or 16AD - and I could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do. You're all bonkers.

So I'm with Mike Haz:

"Merry Christmas," you fucking fruitcakes. You're the masters of your own madness. Own it.

mesquito said...

Whatever you people decide, I'm still not sharing my tamales.

The Crack Emcee said...

Oh, and to Jason and Paddy O:

"Girls just want to have fun,..."

America's Politico said...

I love Christmas! But the spirit of Christmas is how we trust and respect others. The NYT story about Mitt Romney and his family at Harvard Business School is excellent example. Of course, the GOP will not be able to read the story - it is invisible.

What we choose to see in Christmas is what we want to see. We want to see Newt as the POTUS, it is unthinkable. We want to see Perry as V-POTUS, it is unthinkable. But, we live in a real world. The GOP lives in a virtual world. So, they see what we do not see.

Oh well...Aloha from Hawaii. It is beginning to look like Christmas - I mean, I will have a corner office after the re-election.

Paddy O said...

Christmas is the day I get to be shallow.

Be merry! Have a great day! Be with friends and family, don't think too much. Celebrate each other and rest from all life's cares on this day.

Merry Christmas indeed!

Ann Althouse said...

"The only comment I agree with, so far, is Mike Haz's simple "Merry Christmas." ..."

LOL... because you go on to say a whole lot of other things.

The Crack Emcee said...

Ann,

Yeah, but I haven't had my coffee,...

Merry Christmas, Ann!

garage mahal said...

Merry Christmas everyone!

Ann Althouse said...

Merry Christmas, Crack.

DaveW said...

...and I could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do.

Wow Crack I thought you knew more about this stuff than to say that. Catholics believe the creation stories are symbolic, and there's nothing in evolutionary theory that conflicts with Catholicism. You just can't posit evolution absent God.

I posted a lot about this here in the comments to another thread with quotes from the catechism...I guess it was a couple years ago.

Jose_K said...

Not for all is a merry Xmas
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garage mahal said...

Stevie Wonder, the lost blind dog, reunited w/ family for Christmas. Awww!

Michael Haz said...

So I'm with Mike Haz:

"Merry Christmas," you fucking fruitcakes. You're the masters of your own madness. Own it.


Crack - please delete that. I neither said nor meant "Merry Christmas" in the way you have distorted it by your comment.

Paco Wové said...

What Jason said.

deborah said...

""Girls just want to have fun,...""

That was said by a woman; why would you incorporate that into your manligion?

Merry Christmas, sucka!

Fr Martin Fox said...

Crack:

Everyone knows the baby Jesus rode a dinosaur to his first day of preschool. That's what I was taught.

Jason (the commenter) said...

The Crack Emcee: Jason and Paddy O's thinking on the subject is shallow.

So? Since at the least the 1965 Charlie Brown Christmas Special, people have been whining about "the true meaning of Christmas". I don't by it. Why does celebration have to be cerebral and heavy? Celebration can be happy, fun, and joyous.

But some people have to make a big thing about how serious they are, about how much more Christian they are than everyone else. Bah humbug to that! We do say MERRY Christmas after all.

The secularists may be having a war on Christmas, but the Christians seem to be having a war on Merry.

Merry Merry Merry Christmas. (And Happy Holidays!)

DADvocate said...

You left off the "Yes, because it pisses off atheists" choice.

ironrailsironweights said...

Looks like we already have a winner for this poll.

Peter

Jason (the commenter) said...

Althouse: Look, there's Jason saying "because it's fun" should be an option. I could have tried harder to compress "because it's fun" into the first option.

"Fun" and "tradition" are two entirely separate things. The Japanese don't hang up Christmas decorations because it's traditional.

LilEvie said...

Merry Christmas to all!

To me its fun, family, friends, and food, not necessarily in that order.

And AP don't order the drapes for your new office yet.

ricpic said...

Too bad we can't check both boxes, tradition and Christ's birth day.

Merry Christmas All!

The Crack Emcee said...

Michael Haz - I will not delete it. I meant "Merry Christmas" just the way you presented it, but my further thoughts are my own.

Merry Christmas, Y'all!!!

The Crack Emcee said...

DaveW,

Wow Crack I thought you knew more about this stuff than to say that. Catholics believe the creation stories are symbolic, and there's nothing in evolutionary theory that conflicts with Catholicism. You just can't posit evolution absent God.

What the fuck do I care what the Catholic church says?

The Crack Emcee said...

deborah said...

""Girls just want to have fun,...""

That was said by a woman; why would you incorporate that into your manligion?

Merry Christmas, sucka!


Yeah - it was said by a woman and I agree with it, lightheaded bitches.

Merry Christmas, Y'all!!!

ROTFLMAO!!!!

The Crack Emcee said...

Repeat post:

Wow - I just got my first Christmas present left on my doorstep, and I swear, this is not a joke:

$120 somebody owed me.

A can of corn, a large can of maple and brown sugar pork & beans, and a box of dry spaghetti, and three DVDs of porn, including Heavy Handfulls - REAL BIG TITS!

Oh man, it's so nice to be loved,...

Merry Christmas, Y'all!!!

edutcher said...

Went for #2 because 78% of Americans are some kind of Christian.

Merry Christmas, garage.

Skipweasel said...
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madAsHell said...

A porno DVD for Christmas on your front porch, but they didn't want to hang around for dinner??

Maybe your convictions are getting in the way of your relationships?

DaveW said...

What the fuck do I care what the Catholic church says?

Well Crack, it seemed that you do since you posted "...could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do."

But anyway, whether you do or not, Merry Christmas!

MikeR said...

No, because we're Jewish. (And please don't try to draw me in with this Happy Holidays nonsense.)

The Grinch

Alan said...

Another day goes by and still the children cry
Put a little love in your heart
Put a little love in your heart
Put a little love in your heart...
Feed me, Seymour. Feed me!

The Crack Emcee said...

Jesus Would Approve (It's A Birthday PARTY! Right?)

Paul said...

"My only comment today is to wish all a very, very Merry Christmas."

Me to Michael. And pray the world finds peace.

C R Krieger said...

Not trying to start a fight, just get a clear choice.

Regards  —  Cliff

Joe said...

I say celebrate Christmas in August.

Gary Rosen said...

"I say celebrate Christmas in August."

Or you could move to the Southern Hemisphere.

Joe said...

That's my plan.