August 13, 2011

Perry's in: "I full well believe I’m going to win.”

Good!

I liked this piece about him in the UK Telegraph, by Toby Harnden:
The cotton fields at Paint Creek are empty this year because of the fearsome drought. But amid the dust and searing heat, beneath a vast blue sky, the farmland of Mr Perry’s youth is still being worked. Life here is as hard as ever.

At the school, from which Mr Perry graduated third in a class of 13 in 1968, Don Ballard, the school superintendent, reflected on the place that had made Mr Perry what he is.

“We had farm values,” he said “We got up, we worked and we knew what the dollar meant. There was no squandering money here there and yonder. Everybody struggled.

“You’d have a good crop one year and maybe a bad crop the next. Rick Perry understands being up and being down and that if you’re down you’ve got to work to get back up. Most of the families round here want their kids to be better and have more than what they had growing up.” Mr Perry is descended from Confederate veterans of the Civil War on both sides. In an old interview, his grandfather Hoyt Perry, who died in 1992, recalled how his father arrived at Paint Creek in 1887.

“The whole country was covered with prairie dogs. The buffaloes were killed in about the 1870s. I did a lot of farming with the mules. We made our own toys. We made a wheel with an axle and rolled it around.” The future Texas governor spent his teens living in a brick bungalow that his father built a field away from the wooden frame home. J.R. “Ray” Perry and his wife Amelia, now in their mid-80s, still reside there.
We made a wheel with an axle and rolled it around....

123 comments:

Pastafarian said...

I guess I'll have to research Perry more thoroughly. The fact that he was a Democrat just 22 years ago gives me pause. (Yeah, yeah, I know, Reagan started out a Democrat too.)

But let's face it: By the time they hold a primary in my state (Ohio) it will all be decided anyway; and as long as he has a pulse and he's to the right of Hillary Clinton, I'll vote for him over Obama.

I was really hoping that the field would remain more open and Thune could be convinced to jump in.

Jeff in Oklahoma said...

The Wapo is already highlighting Governor Perry as the devil incarnate. Alec MacGillis claims he will either: (a) kill us all with pollution, or (b) if we get sick, we'll all be screwed due to lack of health insurance, (c) but at least when we are dead, the Governor will pray for us while toting his sidearm.

Perry must scare the beejeezers out of the left. I liked him before the hatchet job, I like him even more now.

Cindy Martin said...

so he wants a constitutional ban on abortion. That will really bring in the independent vote...NOT. Why do these candidates have to bring up social issues when there are so many economic and fiscal issues that they can run on. Romney is the only moderate one who can decimate Obama. Getting rid of Obama should be our number one goal in order to recall Obamacare, epa fiat over co2 regulations, redo Frank/Dodd, etc.

alan markus said...

"We made a wheel with an axle and rolled it around"

Somehow, there's got to be a joke about how David Axlerod fits in this.

Is Perry going to be like a heavy wheel around his neck? Is Perry going to "roll" him around?

edutcher said...

Perry's being a Democrat when he was young only means he has a brain, but it is a good portrait of him by Harnden.

But Pasta's right; I'd like to hear more about him.

Jeff in Oklahoma said...

The Wapo is already highlighting Governor Perry as the devil incarnate.

Anyone who challenges the Usurper will get slimed. The Lefties can't win on issues and a strong Republican candidacy means possible coattails to make the Tea Partiers stronger than they already are in Congress.

Jeff in Oklahoma said...

He gets my early nod. One line from his website says why: "And I will work every day to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your lives as I can."

Carol_Herman said...

Just another sucker who believes the hype he gets from his stooges.

Texas, because of Dubya, will be a loser on the ticket ... if the stupid club picks this idiot.

Why is it that the stupid party is so taken with hair?

A bowling ball is gonna stand a better chance against Perry.

phx said...

I wonder if he often speaks of himself in the third person. "Rick Perry understands being up and being down and that if you’re down you’ve got to work to get back up."

Pastafarian said...

Carol Herman: "Why is it that the stupid party is so taken with hair?"

Tell me, Carol: Have you ever voted for a bald man for POTUS, in either the general election or the primary?

hoop said...

If he wants to win points early, he'll give his announcement on time.

ricpic said...

What's with all these Texans, first Bush and now Perry, who long to meld with Mexico?

America's Politico said...

Perry will lose the nomination. Romney will scrap through. But, he will lose the general. No one in the GOP can win against Obama and Biden. Why?

Here are a few reasons:

- The press is their champion. You cannot win w/o support. No one likes the GOP, except Fox.

- OB2 have vision: Make America Better.
- OB2 have deliverables: Stimulus, Health care, etc.
- OB2 have diversity: They represent all Americans.
- OB2 have leadership: They are alert 24/7 for all Americans, take action during crises, etc.

No, when someone calls, WH answers, "how can we help?"

When someone calls GOP, they ask "show me the money".

GOP will be destroyed in 2012, so bad that they will not be able to be competitive till 2020. How to avoid then? Walk away. Give no money to the GOP. Change your party status. live in another country (Saudi Arabia, UK), etc.

The Crack Emcee said...

phx,

I wonder if he often speaks of himself in the third person. "Rick Perry understands being up and being down and that if you’re down you’ve got to work to get back up."

You misread it - that was someone speaking about Rick Perry, not Rick Perry himself.

Titus said...

This sounds like how my parents grew up.

Last night we had corn on the cob.

My mom told me her mother would scrape the cops of corn, after they ate them, freeze them scrapes and make corn soup. They didn't have sweet corn back then. It was the same corn they feed the animals today.

She also told me my grandmother would cut the chickens heads off, gut them, singe them with a newspaper to get rid of the little feathers.

They would use the entire chicken for something. The feathers would be used to stuff pillows that my grandmother made. Neither of my parents grew up with indoor plumbing. They made bread with wheat they grew. Their food was all from the farm.

My dad told me they would cut wood for heat in the winter.

Their farm houses were minimal.

Each of my grandparents died with over a million dollars in cash and over 500 acres of incredibly valuable farm land in Wisconsin.

jacksonjay said...

Everbody (cept W) in Texas was a Democrat back then. W is one of the reasons Texas is such a Red state now.

You gotta see and experience West Texas to know how true these stories are. People that live there (my brother) love it! Horizons, open spaces, Rednecks, drought, etc.! Most people will never understand West Texas or Ricky!

hoop said...

Intro starts at 1:06 PM. Not too bad.

Quayle said...

No, when someone calls, WH answers, "how can we help?

Now I know Politico is a stooge.

As if the Chicago democrats only say "How can we help?"

Yes, indeed, Chicago Dems say it, and if you notice, their hand is sticking out with the palm faced up.

And it isn't waiting for you to hand them a shovel.

What a joke - "How may I help?"

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

hoop said...

Wow. Coming out early and heavy on the red state theme. He's clearly going for the primary today. It's the obvious tack, but I thought he might have gone a little more general on this one, since it's his "first" on the national stage.

phx said...

Thanks Crack.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

If Perry can keep a lid on his religious/evangelical stuff and low key the social issues, he may have a chance.

I don't deny anyone the right to have their religion, however, being President of the United States requires you to be the leader of people with many different religious viewpoints and different ideas on social issues.

The President and government in general should concentrate on foreign policy, domestic policy, economic policy and leave the social engineering out of it.

If Palin endorses him, I'm in.

Titus said...

When I go out to dindin with my parents they clear the table for their next meal. Every single piece of anything that is left on the plate is packed up for tomorrows meals.

I hate leftovers but they thrive on them.

They don't eat as much now that they are older so when they order a meal at a restaurant they have enough food for two additional meals later.

And they fucking love coupons. Every where they go they have a coupon. And a Senior Discount. And some Milwaukee Brewer home run discount on gas.

They also go to catholic mass 3 or 4 times a week.

They are also big time American Legion people.

My dad shoots a gun at veterans funerals when they die. He has one of those cute envelope hats. When I was little I would wear it tilt it to the side and pretend I was French.

And yet they are big democrats and big fag supporters.

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Jim Howard said...

"Why is it that the stupid party is so taken with hair?"

It worked for John Edwards.

hoop said...

First veiled differentiation from Bush: 1st governor since WWII to cut general spending in the state.

Paco Wové said...

"The Wapo is already highlighting Governor Perry as the devil incarnate"

I ran across a piece a few days ago that boiled down to Perry = Dubya + craaaazzzyyy!!!!!

I think that will be a common theme.

ricpic said...

...when someone calls, WH answers, "how can we help?"

...take you to the bottom of the river.

hoop said...

"Will repeal ... [Obamacare] immediately."

Most of the speech is about limiting fed. gov., reducing spending, and encouraging business, but this was the first well-defined action point. (The rest were generalities, if that makes sense.)

ricpic said...

They'll never say it to you directly, Titus, because they were raised not to make waves, but you are a fucking SHANDA to them.

hoop said...

Like any announcement speech, nothing to get worked up about. His religious references were no more invasive than Obama's (the most obvious being the "God bless America" at the end).

Basically nothing on social issues, other than the Obamacare repeal reference. And given the latest appeals ruling, that may not even matter by the election.

After the first couple minutes, he dropped the primary rhetoric and went purely for general election talking points. Given that Perry can probably cakewalk the South and may only need to cherrypick a few states to get the momentum for the party nomination, this tactic probably makes sense. I think this is why he avoided Iowa: he doesn't have to get involved with the attacks/defenses within the party, e.g. Bachmann/Pawlenty.

He'll have to be careful not to overdo the dusty field ethos; most people can't relate to it. It's effective in doses, but he could easily paint himself as too rural to handle the job.

MadisonMan said...

Is he just another politician that will use Abortion to get through the primaries, and then forget all about it? Or am I too cynical?

His home county is in the midst of a wicked wicked drought, despite his well-publicized day of prayer for rain last May. (April?) Bad year to be a farmer in Texas.

I suspect the polluted Houston commercials are already being storyboarded.

ironrailsironweights said...

In a traditional, family-oriented small town like Paint Creek, you might find a few adult women who still look like adult women.

Peter

SPImmortal said...

I guess I'll have to research Perry more thoroughly. The fact that he was a Democrat just 22 years ago gives me pause. (Yeah, yeah, I know, Reagan started out a Democrat too.)

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He started out as a conservative blue dog of the kind that is rapidly dying out in the South.


Nothing to worry about there.

Saint Croix said...

He's a right-winger, and a Southerner, and no doubt I agree with him on a lot of issues.

But he is not Tea Party.

Perry is among the top political fund-raisers in the country, with a vast network of wealthy supporters eager to bankroll his presidential ambitions...

New York Times


He is, in that sense, just like Barack Obama, and most of the political class.

Why was Mitt Romney considered the leader among Republicans? Because Romney has been raising money. He's got the war chest.

Do Republicans even like Romney? Doesn't matter. He's got the money.

So now Perry is in. And he has even more fundraising power. And he's to the right of Romney, so now Perry is #1.

It's corrupting. This whole process is deeply corrupting.

When a politician spends so much time selling influence to rich people, that's not really Tea Party, is it?

We will see if Sarah Palin spends her time going to fundraisers and seeking millions of PAC money from millionaires and "bundlers" and all the rest of the insider class.

Or if she instead does something quite different.

We will see.

Skyler said...

I think that Perry is pretty canny. He knows that no matter what people will associate him with Bush, so he's going to own the whole Texan cowboy theme.

I suspect his approach will be that Bush was never a real "conservative" or even a real "cowboy" and Perry will double down on it. He's been spending time at the shooting ranges with bloggers, he's made noises about states' rights and secession, and now he's doing the religious bit. This will get eaten up by all republicans except those in the north east and he will get the nomination that way.

I'd still prefer Paul Ryan, but Perry has done reasonably well for us in Texas and I'd vote for him with no qualms at this point.

The republican nominee will win no matter who it is because B. Hussein has not done anything to deserve a second shot and even democrats are seeing that now.

Freder Frederson said...

In a traditional, family-oriented small town like Paint Creek, you might find a few adult women who still look like adult women.

And of course they don't rely on the gummint for anything. If it doesn't rain, the crops fail and people starve.

What's that, Haskell County, where Paint Creek is located (and has a population of less than 7000) has received 232 million dollars in farm subsidies over the last 15 years. 22.8 % of the people in the county live in poverty (about 8 points worse than the country as a whole). I bet the local grocery takes food stamps, and lots of them.

I doubt anyone would be left in the county if it wasn't for Federal Government support.

The self-sufficient farmer is a myth.

Erik said...

His liability is that he's a social conservative. This should be offset a bit by his commitment to Federalism. That won't completely mollify libertarians, but will probably be enough to win in 2012. When it comes to the question of Perry vs. Romney, you'll find that Perry's Methodism is more palatable than Romney's Mormonism to most religious conservatives (who, no matter what they say, do in fact have an issue with Mormonism). I think Perry will take the nomination.

Freder Frederson said...

he's made noises about states' rights and secession

So Republicans are going to vote for someone who has seriously raised the possibility that Texas could, and maybe should, secede from the U.S.

Abe Lincoln must be spinning in his grave.

Carol_Herman said...

Ross Perot doesn't have hair.

Plus, if he did, you couldn't see it. Because he opened the hood of an Oldsmobile ... and stuck his head inside.

As to the stupid party, when they picked McCain, a lot of them said they were holding their noses.

AH. HA. However, they were sure McCain's drecky smell would appeal to Hillary voters.

Did they show up?

Did you think Americans who weren't Black would never vote for a Black Man?

Was McCain picked with a sense of self-assurance he could actually win?

When you got down to the bottom of the Cracker Jack box what toy did you get? (Instead.)

hoop said...

Just for funsies, consider the nuclear scenario:

A Walker recall effort actually happens sooner, and fails. Perry wins the party nomination and tabs Walker for Veep. Perry/Walker carry Wisconsin on the way to winning the White House.

Regardless you opinion of that scenario, you have to admit that the meltdown in Madison would be epic.

hoop said...

Texas can't secede. They were a state before the Civil War, and their secession didn't hold then. Besides, the agreement is that they can split apart to form up to 5 states if needed. Much as some Texans like to believe that secession is on the table, it's a rhetorical device only.

madawaskan said...

Pastafarian-

Zell Miller.

Dixiecrats were different.

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Alex said...

Just what we need another shoot from the hip Texan cowboy. No thanks.

Pastafarian said...

Carol Herman -- so you were a Perot voter?

Thanks for all of those years of Clinton, then; and for Breyer, who we just recently rid ourselves of, and Ginsburg, who we still haven't; because Perot supporters were as responsible for Clinton as Clinton voters were.

Maybe you should leave the selection of the Republican nominee to actual Republicans.

madawaskan -- if Perry is anything like Zell Miller, my concerns are gone.

Apollo said...

Alex, Perry doesn't shoot from the hip. He's actually a pretty good shot, as some internet videos and a famously dead coyote will attest.

PatCA said...

I'll have to listen to his speech. There are some of his social issues that turn me off--and more importantly turn off many independents needed to win. However, if the Dems attack his religion, we get to attack Jeremiah Wrightism!

And I trust the Paint Creek upbringing a lot more than the academic leftist upbringing of the One.

Deborah said...

Zell Miller cut back on state government when he was governor. Someone called him a jackass. His response: "you might be right." He still made the cuts.

madawaskan said...

Gawd- I love Zell Miller.

Michael K said...

In 2008, a lot of Republicans assumed that Romney would be the nominee. McCain was the least common denominator and performed like one. I still thought he would win until the financial meltdown. After that, the GOP was toast.

Perry is problematic for me. He sounds like Bush and the religious thing could turn off a lot of independents. I still prefer Paul Ryan.

madawaskan said...

btw-Fen left to go work on someone's campaign.

He told us to be nice to garage and Alpha-*shock*.

I'm thinking -Libtard! won't be anyone's campaign motto.

grackle said...

But he is not Tea Party. Perry is among the top political fund-raisers in the country, with a vast network of wealthy supporters eager to bankroll his presidential ambitions...

I haven’t read anywhere that the Tea Party bases it’s support on the ability or inability of a politician to raise money. As I understand the Tea Party it’s all about a politician’s attitude toward fiscal responsibility, limited government and keeping to the Constitution – not that he may or may not be good at raising money.

You have to have money to win a Presidential campaign. Prime time ads don’t grow on trees. I think the Tea Party probably understands this.

The republican nominee will win no matter who it is …

Dreamer. Complacent. Overconfident. Hubris.

Right now Perry is my choice. But I want to see how well he campaigns outside of Texas. I’ll be watching the primaries. I know this: Perry is a fighter. And he’s no Bush. Bush is Yale and Harvard, born to wealth; Perry is an Aggie raised on a farm.

AllenS said...

The feathers would be used to stuff pillows that my grandmother made

Don't try this at home. Only the feathers from the belly of the bird are suitable for this. Using all of the feathers in a pillow will cause the feathers from the wings to poke an eye out. The feathers from the back are also useless.

Roger J. said...

Whoever wins the republican nomination is going to be for one nasty campaign--Obama has only a record of failure (except for bin laden). He has no significant accomplishments. He has to go negative and his minions are already sliming potential republican nominees--Obama will also try to run against a do nothing congress out of HST's playbook, but strategy puts all congressional incumbents less tea party supported at risk.

By all accounts Perry is a savvy campaigner and given texas politics I am sure he can handle the mud. Gonna be one nasty campaign.

ajcjw said...

America's Politico: The WH asks
"How can we help?".

Really? Assuming you're actually serious, this sounds like an ominous variant of that old line "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you". Americans would be better off (and our Republic would be much healthier) without all the "help".

AllenS said...

Why not make four wheels and two axles and have the mules pull you around? Do I have to think of everything?

ricpic said...

Don't rest your head on that Red Ryder pillow, son, you'll poke your eye out!

rhhardin said...

“We had farm values,” he said “We got up, we worked and we knew what the dollar meant.

The old saying goes, though, that if a farmer has a quarter, he spends two.

Today's farmers are different, being business guys first.

AllenS said...

The new farmers saying goes like this, the farmer has a quarter and the government gives him two more. Then he spends all three. You can't beat having a new truck and tractor.

Cedarford said...

AllenS - All the feathers have value for stuffing. You use a feather-chopper, and they have existed since medieval times. With oil-based replacement materials supplanting feathers, the larger feathers are still chopped up and used....

Much refed to the "NextGen!" chickens in feed pellets. Along with various pieces and parts even McDonalds won't put in their chicken nuggets.

Lombardi Chick said...

ABO, baby. Anybody. But. Obama.

Pastafarian said...

Apollo -- I'd never heard that coyote story before. Having binged it, I see that Perry used a Ruger LCP in 0.380.

That's impressive: Because that little thing has an effective range of maybe 10 feet, you'd have to hit something the size of a coyote in the vitals or you'd just piss him off, and it's not that easy to get that close to a coyote (the closest I've ever been to one is 200 yards, but maybe they're less shy in Texas.)

I'm starting to like this Perry guy.

AllenS said...

When I was a kid we used all the feathers from the underside of chickens and ducks for pillows. I've never heard of a feather-chopper. We never had one.

lemondog said...

He was for the 10th amendment before he was against.

He was for states rights on abortion and gay marriage but now he is for constitutional amendments.

Don’t any of these schlubs running for office hold principle above the quest for power?

Pastafarian said...

Lombardi Chick -- what about Cedarford? Would you vote for the ticket Cedarford/Titus, say, over Obama/Biden?

Lombardi Chick said...

Would you vote for the ticket Cedarford/Titus, say, over Obama/Biden?

Can we make it Titus/Cedarford?

yashu said...

I love this: "I will work every day to make sure that Washington DC is as inconsequential to your lives as possible."

Such a great line; surprising & refreshing rhetoric from a politician.

The polar opposite of Obama: whose imperium at D.C. was to be the panacea for all the world's ills, radically transforming our nation & all of our lives, intervening & affecting us in myriad ways from birth to death-- indeed, calling upon us to tranform ourselves & live up to His vision for us.

Cf. Michelle's chilling words: "[Obama] is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

Ugh. Leave me the hell alone, Washington DC. Perry's line hits the bullseye.

By the same token, really hoping he lays off on the social conservative stuff.

IMO (agree with others) Paul Ryan might well be the best man for the job, given the specific economic straits our country's in. But like Lombardi Chick says: ABO. By that standard, Romney or Perry (I figure that's what it'll come down to) are more than good enough for me.

yashu said...

Give me (say) Rubio for VP and I'll be happy as a clam.

LilEvie said...

Perry is no conservative, and no Zell Miller. A big money man, with big money donors. Here's your red flag - he signed a big animal rights bill (animal rights not animal welfare) which will turn every hobby dog breeder into a commercial breeder with heavy regs. Why, because his big donors are bigtime animal rights. Don't be fooled. With half the new jobs in the entire country he couldn't even balance the budget.

Pastafarian said...

Lombardi chick, I don't think Cedarford will ever go for second-fiddle. He was hesitant to even allow Titus on the ticket at all -- he said that the name Titus sounded "Jewy."

Lombardi Chick said...

LMAO

Pastafarian said...

LilEvie: Linkie?

Is that the "Puppy Mill Bill" that passed 100-40 in the state house and 22-9 in the senate?

Sounds...controversial.

I'm not sure if I'm buying the coyote-shooter is in the pocket of PETA. (Pita pockets....yummm...) Sorry, that's the Archangel Summer Wheatbeer talking.

edutcher said...

Carol_Herman said...

Just another sucker who believes the hype he gets from his stooges.

Texas, because of Dubya, will be a loser on the ticket ... if the stupid club picks this idiot.


No, TX is the place where all the jobs are and everyone knows it. That's why it could be a winner.

Besides, a lot of people smiled at the "Miss Me Yet?" signs.

ironrailsironweights said...

In a traditional, family-oriented small town like Paint Creek, you might find a few adult women who still look like adult women.

Another reason to like him.

Freder Frederson said...

And of course they don't rely on the gummint for anything. If it doesn't rain, the crops fail and people starve.

Not starve, but a lot will have to move to find work.

Freder makes the same mistake most Lefties make. He judges everyone else by his own low standards.

What's that, Haskell County, where Paint Creek is located (and has a population of less than 7000) has received 232 million dollars in farm subsidies over the last 15 years. 22.8 % of the people in the county live in poverty (about 8 points worse than the country as a whole). I bet the local grocery takes food stamps, and lots of them.

I doubt anyone would be left in the county if it wasn't for Federal Government support.

The self-sufficient farmer is a myth.


Freder, of course, is an expert on agriculture, so he knows everything about them, but people like Freder can't wait to destroy them.

he's made noises about states' rights and secession

So Republicans are going to vote for someone who has seriously raised the possibility that Texas could, and maybe should, secede from the U.S.

Abe Lincoln must be spinning in his grave.


Of course, Freder loves Abe, the first statist President.

Considering the way Little Zero wants to drag down anyone who works or owns a business in this country, secession - legal under the Constitution - must appear attractive.

Jim said...

IMHO, when it's all about the economy stupid, Perry would make a huge error if he allowed the MSM to define him on social issues. Telling them he would redefine abortion gives them all the bullets they need.

OTOH, it appears the Left will somehow try to paint his poor upbringing against him, as if their definition of poverty is somehow a blight on Perry or Texas. That could be a huge mistake.

traditionalguy said...

Oh my God!

On the same day we learn that Perry, who started his career as a male cheerleader for Texas A&M, is headed to the Ranch House in Washington DC, and Texas A&M is headed to the Southeastern Conference.

Coincidence? I think not.

What do you want to bet that Perry selects Rubio as his VP and proposes annexing the northern half of Mexico so that we can all get our yards cut cheap.

J said...

The GOP-TP battle will come down to a few key issues--really two: like, which candidate will gut the most Fed. programs AND their views on Witches. On the Witch issue, Bachmann's probably the leader (though Romney the Mormon does have the power of the Angel Moroni on his side). Perry will have to spew a great deal of fire and brimstone to catch up. BLOOD RED HEIFER,yall

CEO-MMP said...

Texas could actually secede. It's in their state constitution. They reserved the right to GTFO of the USA should they decide it was vital.
Or if they got bored.

As a friend (and business partner) born in and living in Texas reminds me. Weekly.

And why is Carol Herman nuts?

Saint Croix said...

I haven’t read anywhere that the Tea Party bases it’s support on the ability or inability of a politician to raise money. As I understand the Tea Party it’s all about a politician’s attitude toward fiscal responsibility, limited government and keeping to the Constitution – not that he may or may not be good at raising money.

To me the Tea Party means populist. You represent the voters. You are not a representative of the government class. You are not a representative of corporate interests.

Your typical politician sells off influence and makes back room deals. That's what Clinton did, and Bush, and Obama.

What concerns me about Perry is his status as #1 fundraiser. Who's giving him all that money?

Oil companies, probably, and other multinationals.

The only thing bad about the New York Times article was, as usual, their absolutely ideological blindness.

Like Obama doesn't have extensive corporate ties. Like Clinton and Gore didn't have fundraising parties all the frickin' time.

Corporations give to both candidates, a lot. They buy interest and then raid the public till.

Have you noticed that?

The lobbyist culture in D.C. sells influence.

We outlawed the frickin' light bulb because G.E. wants to charge us up the ass for their new light bulbs.

You want oil companies that are "too large to fail"?

Sarah Palin pissed off the oil companies. She cleaned up all the corruption in Alaska's corporate-government oligarchy. And the people of Alaska loved her.

We need the same thing to happen in D.C. We need the corporate and political interests who thrive in that cesspool to be pissed off.

And we need the people to be happy.

Our government is too big, and spending too much money, and politicians who spend all their time raising money are not the solution.

If you are sick of it, sick of the corruption and sick of the same D.C. crap, Sarah Palin is our best shot, in my opinion.

ic said...

a board of education â “ a wooden paddle

Freeman Hunt said...

We don't have Ryan. Perry's good enough. He's the first candidate to enter the GOP primary who I would actively support during the primary. (I'll support anyone who runs against Obama in the general.)

The economy is totally farked. I don't care what a candidate thinks about social issues right now. Fix the economy by getting the government out of the way.

Whoever the GOP candidate is for the general election, I predict an unprecedented number of people giving the max on their political donations.

Robert Cook said...

"'I full well believe I'm going to win.'"

Isn't this a bit redundant? Doesn't one's decision and announcement that one intends to run for office presuppose a conviction that one will win?

I understand the statement is boilerplate self-promotion, expected of anyone engaged in any sort of competition--"I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to win!" is the standard pull quote we hear from every contestant on every television comptetition, from HELL'S KITCHEN to THE BACHLEORETTE and beyond--but isn't it a bit trite...at least by now?

C'mon Rick! Just out of the gate and you're already uttering banalities!

Ralph L said...

In a traditional, family-oriented small town like Paint Creek, you might find a few adult women who still look like adult women.

Another reason to like him

Because he won't make women shave?

Ralph L said...

Cook, some people actually run for VP, or to promote a book, or (like Clinton in 91) to get national recognition for the next go 'round.

Of course, they don't admit that in public.

HT said...

On the same day we learn that Perry, who started his career as a male cheerleader for Texas A&M, is headed to the Ranch House in Washington DC, and Texas A&M is headed to the Southeastern Conference.

HOLD IT RIGHT THERE.

Is this serious?

Robert Cook said...

"Cook, some people actually run...to get national recognition...."

Thanks, Ralph, but I think I acknowledged the inherently rhetorical and platitudinous nature of Perry's statement, to whit:

"I understand the statement is boilerplate self-promotion, expected of anyone engaged in any sort of competition...."

That's what I'm dinging him for!

Saint Croix said...

W was a cheerleader, too! Spooky.

Roger J. said...

Ralph L: women dont shave in oregon and I suspect not much in madison.

Mr Cook: of course it platitudinous BS--Perry's a politician what do you expect--At least he didnt claim the oceans would cease to rise and the planet would begin to heal--now THERE is some major bullshit--if we edited pols use of such BS they would have nothing to say and their press releases and speaches would both last in minutes. :)

Roger J. said...

umm--speeches not speaches

Roger J. said...

Trent Lott was also a cheerleader at ole miss--The thought strikes me that if Perry was an aggie CL it was probably in the days where the aggies corps was not coed

Jeff in Oklahoma said...

Rick Perry talks a good game - hell bells so did Obama. The one thing about Perry, as opposed to nearly all of the GOP wannabes save T-Paw, is what he has actually done.

Results are needed, not more hot air.

Carol_Herman said...

Hoop, Even under the best of circumstances, Walker as veep just adds 10 Electoral College votes.

Perry/Walker ... would look like two guys ... from the "hicks." Where Perry needs a "burg."

Meanwhile, up ahead, I hope Karl Rove gets frozen out.

Oh. And, if it is Palin, what is she gonna do with McCain? Probably send the woman at his old headquarters ... that "dressed her." Or that got her the interview with Katie Couric.

While Sarah's smile will be a blast.

I think Sarah can convince Trump that as veep he won't have to shake hands with anybody.

The way politics gets redesigned.

Even though I can't picture it. Or see anything ahead. (Maybe, Titus can read clouds?)

Roger J. said...

Totally OT, but Barry Goldwater, Alan Simpson, and President Truman were, IMO, probably the best plain spoken politicians. The story was told that Bess Truman was asked by a reporter why the President used the word "manure" so often in referencing other's political statements. Bess responded, "dear, it took me 40 years to teach him to say manure, and I am not going to change him now." god bless both Harry and Bess--they dont make them like that anymore.

ella binsburg said...

Another know-nothin, Corporate-America lobbying Gov from Texas? The American People wont go along with this, they know better now. Looking at the Republican field, Im quite certain that Obama will get a second term.

Saint Croix said...

Ugh, Perry has a 25-year career in the government. And now he's a millionaire. Of course!

It's like voting for the Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.

And it's still an improvement over Obama.

Saint Croix said...

Im quite certain that Obama will get a second term.

All the Obama bumper stickers have disappeared. Gone. Like they were never there.

My mom and my brother are the last hold outs. And you, I guess.

Get out that screwdriver and start scraping.

Michael Parker said...

Texas can split up into 5 states, but the kicker is that the new states only gain admission to the union on application and approval by the senate in the usual way. This was a sop to the abolitionists who were wary of the pro-slavery states, and didn't want them to be able to get the "free" representatives and senators on demand by just splitting Texas up.

This is a kicker because the new states don't *have* to apply for admission to the union after the split. It may not be secession in name, but it would be secession in fact, authorized by an international treaty that was approved by the senate and signed by the president.

Saint Croix said...

I have to say this speech is pretty good. They fool me with their damn sweet nothings.

HT said...

ella binsburg said...

Another know-nothin, Corporate-America lobbying Gov from Texas? The American People wont go along with this, they know better now. Looking at the Republican field, Im quite certain that Obama will get a second term.

8/13/11 4:54 PM



Good!

grackle said...

What concerns me about Perry is his status as #1 fundraiser. Who's giving him all that money?

Perry is good at fundraising. To me that’s a good thing, because no GOP candidate is going to win unless that candidate can raise funds – to some others …

Sarah Palin is our best shot, in my opinion.

She’s not in the race. Until she is she’s nobody’s “shot.” PS: I like her too.

Ugh, Perry has a 25-year career in the government. And now he's a millionaire. Of course!

Wow. He’s been able to earn a good living. Oh, but that’s bad … if only he had inherited his wealth … more folks would be comfortable with him.

gadfly said...

"At the school, from which Mr Perry graduated third in a class of 13 in 1968."

Unfortunately, finishing in the top quarter of his high school class is the very best he could do.

At Texas A&M, Governor Goodhair must have spent too much time yelling, because he graduated with 2.0 grade-point average on a 4.0 system. His low grades kept him out of Veterinary school.

I think I'll "pass" on Perry.

Saint Croix said...

Wow. He’s been able to earn a good living. Oh, but that’s bad

If he was an entrepreneur, that would be awesome.

Becoming a millionaire while you're "working for the people," less awesome.

Perry made almost a million dollars off a land deal while he was governor.

There's a lot of opportunities for corruption in D.C. I'd like somebody to really clean out the swamp. Not sure Perry is the guy for that.

Saint Croix said...

Perry's likely Veep would be...

Giulani! Interesting...

Saint Croix said...

Or maybe it's Giuliani.

That's a lot of vowels.

Carol_Herman said...

Pastafarian @ 1:22 PM

You know anyone can join your religion. All they need is a colander at home. And, what home doesn't have a strainer for spaghetti.

But you wear yours on your head.

I guess to honor the spaghetti you boiled for dinner.

I can vote for whomever I want. I am not responsible for what happens. But ya know what? Not only did Bill Clinton "get in." He stayed in even after Monica described his penis to the world.

It was Newt Gingrich who screwed up! He looked at that story and got "Ken Starr"-ee eyed with glee.

Then? Newt had to quit.

It amazes me, sometimes, how queer people get. They stand up straight. Because if they leaned to one side ... the world would fly out of orbit.

Carol_Herman said...

Who else used to speak in the 3rd person? Was it Nixon?

Carol_Herman said...

Reverse logic.

Calling your opponent names used to be called ad hominems. You'd lose your argument on the falacies.

But let's say people gear up and really go after Obama, calling him names?

For every name tossed ... that's a simpathy vote in Obama's direction.

Stupid name callers are just bullies.

And, they're not gonna get to sway the crowds.

While, when Trump starts the insult, he begins:

I know him. And, he's a very nice person. Wrong on the issues. When I ask "him" for his opinion ... I take it as what not to do."

But he's a very nice person!

And, then, Trump mentions his TV show, the Apprentice.

Happens every time.

"Trump can DUMP-O" on his button, though. And, he'd sell millions.

Gotta make the crowds laugh (but in a good way), if you want to win.

Didn't Reagan and Tip O'Neill teach anybody here how to play the game?

Calling Vince Lombardi. Calling Vince Lombardi. Courtesy Phone. Line #1.

Carol_Herman said...

No, St. Croix. Not Guiliani. Too many marriages. And, when he was free to run against Andrew Coumo. He did not.

If Biden is knocked out? Could Andy Coumo come in? New York's got the Electoral College side of the equation ... but then it would be Chicago/New York. The flank ends of the mafia movement.

Carol_Herman said...

"DON'T MESS WITH ME" ... TEXAS

It was an ad campaign!

Seems the roads in Texas kept getting all gunked up because the cowboys just threw trash out their windows.

To get them to think it wasn't a good thing to do ... the "Don't Mess with Me" campaign was born.

LBJ's big butt sure got kicked back to Texas!

Dubya's just got Karl Rove watching out for him, and his family's back. (But they're just owned by the saud's.)

But ya know what?

We live in a free country.

Pick your horse.

That's why there are so many betting windows at the track!

People bring money to buy tickets!

And, then other dang fools count on their winning the lottery!

Nobody can teach fools nothin.

Carol_Herman said...

I'd vote for Cedarford. I'd vote for Titus. In any order.

But we don't get good candidates to choose from.

Trump makes me laugh. And, I love the way he hates to shake hands. He's also not going to go about running in what's become the "usual" way.

Abraham Lincoln didn't run like that. He had others who went about giving good arguments for him.

While the shrimp Douglass started this idea that you went everywhere ... and gave speeches. (Must have really tired out his horses.) And, at some spot down south, he got spit upon.

Lincoln won. Good man.

Found a new path.

Up ahead? Probably so. Probably so. If not this run. Then, the next one. Sooner or later, everything changes.

And, when you go back to visit the old neighborhood? It strikes you as being a lot smaller than you remember.

Mary Beth said...

"'I full well believe I'm going to win.'"

Isn't this a bit redundant? Doesn't one's decision and announcement that one intends to run for office presuppose a conviction that one will win?


Obama called his campaign an "improbable quest" in 2007 when he announced he was running. Is that better than stating you believe you will win?

Beldar said...

@ MadisonMan: In Houston we have an ozone problem that's directly related to being a world center for petrochemical refining and processing. But of the ten worst ozone-polluted cities in the United States, Houston is only #8, and nine of the other ten, including all of the first seven, are in California. According to Forbes, California metros have the country's worst air, followed by Phoenix and Pittsburgh.

Overall, Houston is "ranked 68 for 24-hour particle pollution out of 277 metropolitan areas." So no, not the cleanest air in America; that would be Honolulu, followed by Fargo. Nice places, and I understand Fargo is actually experiencing a boom right now. But they have rather a different range and sort of opportunities than Houston. Per the Bureau of Labor Statistics, between Dec. 2009 & Dec. 2010, for example, Houston (Harris County) had the largest gain in employment among the ten most populous counties in the United States. In that one year, in the midst of a national recession and skyrocketing unemployment, we created over 30,000 new jobs.

I've lived in Houston for 31 years now, and pollution plays no part in my daily life, nor in the daily lives of anyone I know. So yeah, they may be story-boarding anti-Perry stuff about Houston pollution, but it will be based on lies or exaggerations.

Beldar said...

@ LilEvie:

Regarding Gov. Perry and the puppy mill bill passed by the Texas Legislature's last session:

"Governor Perry signed HB 1451, the Large Scale Commercial Dog and Cat Breeder Bill, popularly known as the Puppy Mill Bill, into law on June 17, 2011. HB 1451 is a regulation and licensing measure for breeders and will provide basic protection for dogs and cats raised in breeding operations by providing humane housing standards, veterinary care, and inspections."

The statute, which will become Chapter 802 of the Texas Occupations Code, only applies to a "dog or cat breeder" who "possesses 11 or more adult intact female animals and is engaged in the business of breeding those animals for direct or indirect sale or for exchange in return for consideration and who sells or exchanges, or offers to sell or exchange, not fewer than 20 animals in a calendar year."

So I completely disagree with your assertion that "Perry is no conservative" because "he signed a big animal rights bill (animal rights not animal welfare) which will turn every hobby dog breeder into a commercial breeder with heavy regs." That's a false description of the statute and its consequences. Indeed, the regs haven't even been written yet, so you describing them as "heavy" cannot possibly be a well-informed statement.

As for Perry's "big donors" being "bigtime animal rights" advocates, I challenge you to provide a shred of substantiation for that claim. That sounds like something that could only be believed by someone who's been smoking really bad crack. PETA is still outraged that " Perry signed legislation allowing hunters to shoot pigs from helicopters," so they generally put him in the same category as they consider Sarah Palin.

The things people make up ....

Beldar said...

Perry is, however, famous for vigorously protecting his own dog. I am looking forward to meeting a true conservative who doesn't think that's more indicative of Perry's basic makeup than his signature on the puppy mill bill.

Beldar said...

mea culpa: I said "nine of the other ten" above, when I meant "eight of the other ten."

Beldar said...

@ LilEvie: You're also flat wrong in describing the puppy mill bill as an "animal rights not animal welfare" bill. It does not purport to give animals any legally enforceable rights, either directly or through human proxies. Whoever told you that either didn't know the difference or was lying to you. Rather, it requires commercial breeders to register to to submit to inspections before licensure and thereafter every 18 months to ensure that they're not engaging in animal cruelty. Inspectors can refer animal cruelty law violations to the local law enforcement authorities. There's a public data base maintained with violators' names to help people avoid patronizing past violators if they choose. And breeders are required to keep relevant records.

There's no right for anyone to bring a lawsuit or otherwise assert "animal rights." This bill is exactly about "animal welfare" and avoiding unnecessary cruelty, but it doesn't confuse animals with humans.

Carol_Herman said...

I dunno, Beldar. "I Love My Dog" doesn't sound like much of a campaign slogan to me.

Trumps "DUMP-O" on the other hand ... looks like one that would bring "buttons" back into business.

It's too early to tell if Obama gets to home plate ... because the pitchers keep striking out. Or, there's so much fear ... other players are just given a walk? After walk?

Bachmann also did something "interesting" to Paul Ryan. (I think it was Ryan who was given the five minute response slot to Obama's SOTU speech.

And, while I don't promise to remember this correctly ... Bachmann also came out and rebutted O's speech.

Two people in the same spot create a null-void.

But Bachmann is getting camera!

No. I don't trust the media!

I think they know she's had Lasik surgery ... And, her eyeballs are gonna always pop out like that.

And, yes. I think she carries baggage. Baggage even wider than Michelle Obama's hips.

But it is guaranteed to be entertaining.

Beldar said...

But Ms. Herman! What of Fala? What of Checkers? What of Barney?

Why, one of Obama's only fulfilled campaign promises has been that he'd get a dog for his daughters!

Plus, it's not just that Perry is pro-dog. It's that he's anti-coyote and pro-.380 Ruger (although that's not one of my own favorite calibers even for an every-day carry gun).

Elle said...

Carol - It's "Don't Mess with Texas," campaign.

Quite successful actually.

Go Perry.

Steve Koch said...

Perry does better than Romney WRT Tea Party, religious right, cultural conservatives, libertarians, federalists, anti ObamaCare, and environmental realists so Perry resonates with most voters on the Right much more than Romney. This most likely translates to Perry winning the GOP nomination.

Perry's Texas accent is probably a drawback for the national election because it makes it easier to tie him to Bush II.

Rubio would be the best VP choice because he is Hispanic and from a large swing state.

josephearl444 said...

Alex Jones picked him as a future Repub nominee in the film EndGame when Perry was seen at a Bilderberg meeting several years ago. I thought the blog on him was almost deceptive in that the words spoken by Ballard sprinkle onto Perry as if they were his own. Makes him seem real down homey. I don't trust the man.
love ya, josephearl

Revenant said...

I think he's going to win too.

grackle said...

If he was an entrepreneur, that would be awesome. Becoming a millionaire while you're "working for the people," less awesome. Perry made almost a million dollars off a land deal while he was governor.

Myself, I don’t begrudge anyone, including politicians, for trying to make a profit. Every American has a right to get ahead if they can. But Perry is not what I would call immensely wealthy. His net worth is about 2 million – not a huge sum by today’s standards. He has disclosed his income tax returns for every year he has held office.

I read the land deal story. It beaks down to this:

In 2000 Fraser bought a lot valued at 300,000. A year later he sells the lot to Perry for $310,762. Six years later Perry sells the lot for $1.15 million. Pretty pedestrian stuff. Happens all the time in real estate. All this was before the real estate bubble burst. I don’t see anything to be suspicious about.

In my opinion the story, originally run in the Dallas Morning News and repeated pretty much verbatim by other news outlets, was a hit job, rife with implication and innuendo but with no substance. It was no doubt designed to help Perry’s opponent, endorsed by the newspaper, in the election happening at that time. Nothing illegal or even immoral occurred so the story died a quick and deserved death.

Perry pretty much drives the Texas liberal newspapers, which are most of the major Texas newspapers, crazy, another reason I like him. They dislike his conservative ways and they’ll do anything to bring him down. No doubt the NYT, LAT, and the other usual suspects will imitate them should Perry become the GOP nominee. Or maybe even before. Chris Matthews is highly disturbed by Perry, which is the next thing to an endorsement for me. I think the Progressives do not want Perry to become the nominee. They would probably prefer Romney, Bachmann or their best case scenario, Pawlenty.

Perry is a little like Palin. The more they try to squash him the stronger he becomes. The GOP Old Guard and the Left both hate him, major newspapers endorse his opponents but the Texas voters always give him a win. He is an excellent campaigner.

rhhardin said...

Today we make pillows out of packing peanuts.

Elle said...

Grackle - you're exactly correct.

Dallas Morning News detests Gov Perry. Something for non Texans to keep in mind in the coming months as other news outlets cite them as source.

(longtime reader, finally coming out to play in anticipation of election)