June 21, 2011

Concealed carry comes to Wisconsin.

From the comments section at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
1. "If you are so insecure that you feel you need to carry a gun, YOU ARE A NUT CASE and need PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP. If you feel the need to carry a gun, YOU ARE A NUT AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO SO!!!"...

2. "You people who are going to cc, please do not accidentally shoot us regular people or your self. Although it will be interesting to hear about the 1st cc person who shots themselves in the leg or testycles."
IN THE COMMENTS: t-man said...
The comment is clearly a parody, filled with "NUT"s, "NUT CASE" (scrotum), and testycles.

Either that or the writer's subconscious is trying to work through a few issues.
Oddly, these are 2 different comments, by different individuals, and they are separated in the thread by other comments. Either it's just a funny coincidence, or the term "nut case" somehow influenced the other guy to think about testicles. As for the misspelling, now I'm having flashbacks to the nude bicycle ride I witnessed last Saturday and which I cannot unsee.

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Don't Tread 2012 said...

'A fear of weapons is a sign of sexual and emotional immaturity' - Sigmund Freud

Just Sayin'

mariner said...

DADvocate,

I'm a carrier of tactical tupperware myself.

SGT Ted said...

The gun bigots and anti-Americans really come out in force when you stand up for an unpopular Constitutional Right.

Hoosier Daddy said...

GM: "Pretty much as I described, no?"

Pretty much as I threadjacked,no?

/fixed

DADvocate said...

conversion kits

I'll have to check those out.

The gun bigots and anti-Americans really come out in force when you stand up for an unpopular Constitutional Right.

Amen. They'll interpret the Constitutional rights they like as broadly and liberally as possible, but when it comes to those they don't like, they get real conservative.

Big Mike said...

I don't think either of the two people who wrote those comments would say that in public if they thought that the person they were talking to was carrying.

It's called the civilizing effect of firearms.

SunnyJ said...

Kirk Patrick - Well then you missed the post from Mr. Hall here and I've taken several classes and its been met with approval. Infact, it was suggested to the entire class by the trainer where I bought my S&W .38 Bodyguard when I told him I load my shotgun the same way.

But, I'll be honest with you Kirk...I don't really need an "expert" to tell me how to survive in the country where I've been doing it on my own for over 45 years. Think of it this way...if you fire the buckshot and it stings enough to deter, you're not in court for murder are you? If it doesn't deter, you're 1 sec away from a slug. If the slug takes them out, the buckshot evidence satisfies that you attempted to warn them off and they kept coming. If you don't and you go right for the slug and you have a dead hombre on your hands, there you are with a question about the need for the force. Now I'm really small so the difference in size with the average bad guy is going to help my theory that I was feeling threatened, that might not work for a big guy would it?

One last thought...around here an expert is someone at least 60 miles from home. A little common sense can be had by any of us, without leaving the farm.

caplight said...

Only looked down the barrel of a firearm once. It was a twelve gauge pointed right at me and my buddy. We were spotting deer. The rancher thought we were stealing fuel from his equipment. I was clearly aware of the consequences were I to not cease movement at that moment. Thankfully we were able to resolve the little misunderstanding. guns are very persuasive.

Oh, and the Palins have too much energy for the world or something.

Kirk Parker said...

Sunny,

Of course I saw Mr. Hall's post. As a anti-snake/anti-rat piece, the Taurus is no doubt excellent. For defense against humans, just load it with .45LC and be done with it.

Look, you have your own perspective and that's fine. However, unlike a lot of myths that circulate (e.g. "don't open carry or the bad guy will shoot you first"), the scenario where a person is charged with assault (or worse), claims self-defense, and fails is not uncommon. You want to increase your chances of that happening to you, go ahead, but "experts" (i.e. the kind of people who actually get tapped as expert witnesses in high-profile cases of this sort) strong recommend against what you and Mr. Hall are advocating.

For the rest of us here: if you want to warn someone, I recommend using your voice. The moment you point a firearm at someone, you're threatening deadly force.

Fen said...

Garage: Fen slithers in late, hours after dodging my question,

Dumbass. I answered your question immediately, at 2pm:

"And yes, assault and battery is a shooting offence."


But please, spin some more lies, idiot.

jerryofva said...

I live in Virginia. I carry a Springfield Arms Model 1911. Wife Carries A Beretta 92 FS Any questions?

SunnyJ said...

Kirk P... we weren't discussing the entire protocol, just the loads. We weren't discussing is in your home, out the back door, in the garage, down the street, parking ramp or at the bar either. Nor, if there are other family members or strangers within distance or you are alone. We didn't discuss the stance or the squeeze. On and on...

It was just a simple discussion about loads...

Scott M said...

@Kirk

A M1-based rifle is pretty much a good, all-around, do-just-about-anything refile. Especially good for something like SHTF. Not a door kicker, but easy to find ammo and parts for.

Synova said...

It's hard to tell from the article. The banner (flag?) was put "over their heads" but it says from the second floor which may mean "above" instead of "over", but seems to say it touched the singers, but doesn't say if that was an accident, and pulling the flag (banner?) away you can't tell if it's a "push it away" or a "take it away."

And hey, if the singers can sing without a permit, the guy can scoot around in his wheelchair yelling without a permit. And banners can be hung without a permit.

The article really doesn't clear anything up about who started it.

Eric said...

Here in Minnesota, opponents of concealed carry predicted that the passage of concealed carry would result in a significant uptick in gun violence.

It didn't happen.


It never does. We've heard "blood running in the streets" rhetoric in every state that was about to legalize CC, and it never played out. Statistically CCP holders are the most law-abiding group of citizens you can find. Assuming you're not a criminal yourself, the people most likely to shoot you are already carrying guns regardless of the legal niceities.

In my state you can only get a permit if the local sheriff wants to give you one, and most of them don't unless you have a job that requires it. I'd love to see the law changed to shall-issue.

Kirk Parker said...

SunnyJ,

"Kirk P... we weren't discussing the entire protocol, just the loads."

Loads implicates protocol and more, though, because no shotshell in a handgun caliber is remotely suitable for self-defense against humans.

Furthermore, you were the one that brought up the warning-shot aspect...

A "Shotgun" Gold said...

"dose" said "I am a bit of a nut."

Give the guy a break. He only claims to be a "dose" of sanity, not an abundance.

A "Shotgun" Gold said...

SunnyJ, you may be confusing buckshot and bird shot. Buckshot doesn't "sting," it kills. And rather decisively. Bird shot can kill too, particularly up close, but after a certain distance it's less likely to penetrate enough kill. If you don't have justification to kill a person, you have no justification to shoot at them. Ever.

A "Shotgun" Gold said...

Scott M "Collapsible tactical baton with horizontal belt holster. Less training to use properly than a knife and probably (though I've not matched them up) a bit quicker to deploy."

Facing a knife I might choose a baton over a knife, provided it is giving me a reach advantage. I wouldn't expect the baton to be quicker to deploy, although it depends on the mode of carry for both the knife and baton. You want a very fast knife? Try the Cold Steel Ti-Lite. Simply incredible, and I recommend it highly.

Scott M said...

Knife versus knife, someone's probably going to die and the winner is going to ER all fucked up. I'd take the baton for the same reason as you...reach.

Kev said...

As for the misspelling, now I'm having flashbacks to the nude bicycle ride I witnessed last Saturday and which I cannot unsee.

Ha. I've seen it twice in Burlington, Vermont (it always seems to coincide with the jazz festival up there, which must cause all kinds of questions from the young kids who come up to see their older siblings play in the high school bands on Church Street.

My take on the bike race: 1) Too many people naked who probably shouldn't be naked, and 2) Too many dudes.

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