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Ugh.Post-abuse becomes a long slog towards death for some. Along the way it makes people really unlikeable.Wish I had an answer.
Life is a long slog towards death for all.Some people can't stand the slog and opt to find quicker conveyance to the destination.See you at the finish line, Corey.
"Life is a long slog towards death for all."May I recommend skipping? Not ahead to the finish line, but as a happy form of locomotion.
Everybody's doin' the lo-co-motion.
May he find the peace in death that eluded him in life.(I'm sure he would have loved to have skipped, if he'd only knew how)
Does anyone over 7 years old actually skip?I always notice little kids skipping because no one else ever does it. It seems so joyous, it even cracks my curmudgeonly heart.
"help me for I am lost ..."
The only thing I can remember him from is the Lost Boys and he was the weak link in that movie. Being a celebrity must be a daily struggle not to become a coke head and overdose.
This looks like another complicated man whose brief fame could not save him from his wounded soul. He was useful for a while, but in the end he was not worth the trouble for his "friends" to intervene for him. Kyrie Eleison, Son of David.
Oh the Corey's. You knew at least one of them would come to an early end, but it was still sad to see this morning. It was the other one that used to run around with a michael jackson glove, I think.
I loved LUCAS when it came out, and I thought both Kerry Green and Winona Ryder (her film debut) were both captivating in it. Quite sad about Corey Haim. Given the two Coreys' revelations here, (if true), one wonders how many child performers may be sexually abused?
"Pogo said... Does anyone over 7 years old actually skip?"I tried, but then people started questioning my manhood.
It was the other one that used to run around with a michael jackson glove, I think.Hell sometimes it was hard to tell Corey Feldman apart from Michael Jackson.
Defensive backs in football are always skipping backwards and skipping sideways at full speed. They are as talented at skipping as the greatest ballet dancers. Then there was Walter Payton's skipping moves, and recently the LaDainian Tomlinson TCU Horned Frog hop and skip moves. So lets not quit so young, guys.
Hahaha. I said locution instead of locomotion.Roller skating. Now there's an effective mode of locomotion.
Don't let your kids become child stars. Don't let your kids go on sleep away trips with the parish priest. Although we know no sure fire ways of achieving lasting happiness, we have through experience learned how to almost guarantee a life of lasting misery.....My slogging is a slow motion form of skipping. "I wake to live and take my waking slow."
That clip was pretty harsh. Sad story.
(I'm sure he would have loved to have skipped, if he'd only knew how)Or if he hadn't been forced into the limelight and celebrity at too young an age.Showbiz parents are freaks.
Life is a long slog towards death for all.I refuse to believe this. I'm also not middle aged yet. *yikes*
Or if he hadn't been forced into the limelight and celebrity at too young an age.Kurt Russell was making movies at the tender young age and of six years old and he turned out pretty well.
Life is a long slog towards death for all.As my good friend Andy Duphraine said, get busy livin or get busy dyin.
I am shocked! Shocked! (that Althouse has a personally autographed picture of Corey Haim)wv: hagsh... it'sh what i had for shupper last night
Wow, two untreated sexual abuse survivors. They could have sought and received help, it would have made a difference.Very sad.Trey
For these young stars life is a sort of Benjamin Button affair.Adult lives while still too young and the scape towards some illusion of youth while getting old.
Does anyone over 7 years old actually skip?What I do in the privacy of my own home is none of your darn business, Pogo.
Nearly all the tragedy of these kind of lives, both famous and not is only possible when your whole focus is on yourself and your problems.If these people would simply look around and see that others have problems often worse and then try to do something to help others they would be much healthier.I really have a hard time sympathizing with an attractive young person given great opportunities and then whining about their life. Many of us have been taken advantage of as teens and so what - it's usually not devastating it happens to a lot of people and there are much worse things that many endure and move on. It's often just an excuse.These guys have been feminized into over-sensitive helpless people who simply never learned that being a man is swallowing disappointment and fighting through it. Their overindulgent self pity is kryptonite to a man's soul. I blame our feminized culture. It is costing both men and women valuable irreplaceable things. Two sexes are better than one and your gender is not just what's in your pants.
"Does anyone over 7 years old actually skip?"I think Congessman Massa does.
@RevenantOh, I am all about privacy!I have pointed out the 'non-skipping after age 7-8' to my kids on occasion, and proceeded to skip for them.You'd have thought I were dancing nekkid and singing Yankee Doodle. Nothin' years of therapy won't fix, I'm sure.
The ultimate Farrah Fawcett snub will be if they Memorialize this 4th rate actor and 2nd rate junkie at next year's Oscars as "a great loss to our community."==============Hoosier Daddy said... Or if he hadn't been forced into the limelight and celebrity at too young an age."Kurt Russell was making movies at the tender young age and of six years old and he turned out pretty well."Or Jeff Bridges --at least ummmm --by the people who share his altered reality standards..that "The Dude's" Oscar acceptance speech typified.------------------------Hoosier Daddy said... It was the other one that used to run around with a michael jackson glove, I think."Hell sometimes it was hard to tell Corey Feldman apart from Michael Jackson."I thought it was easy. Once you pried the two apart by throwing ice water on them or using a crowbar - one looked Jewish, the other looked like a titless black woman.
sorry but as I watched the clip I kept asking myself "so which Corey is the one that killed himself?
You know, we saw this coming for something like 20 years. Its just sad, that is all.
Am I the only one skeptical about all these molestation claims by celebrities over the last decade or so? Seems like the go-to excuse for someone who's screwed up his life with drugs.I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but the whole "Oh yeah? I was molested too!" thing just rings a bit false. Why aren't the molesters ever arrested the way they've been arresting geriatric priests? It seems like the excuse that can't be challenged.
Methadras said... How about lugeing your way towards death. I heard it happened in Canada once.wv = shisms = The last thing Haim felt.
I read somewhere that the Roman legions skipped into battle (and death for some of them).
I agree with William, that no one should want his/her child to become a child star. The probability is clearly that they'll be spent by age 12 and feel they belong nowhere else in society. It robs them of a normal childhood and the relative anonymity to develop into adulthood. So why would a parent want fame for his child unless he had first wanted it for himself?On a positive note, however -- it's been inspiring to see Robert Downey, Jr. lift himself/take help to get out of the train wreck of impending overdose and certain death with his past heroin addiction. I've never seen one sink that low and escape. He's come so far with the right support. It's sad that this Corey never found it or maybe never allowed it. He seemed self-loathing and angry.
MYour point about Robert Downey is well taken, but i worry. i mean he must be insanely rich after Iron man. and with money comes temptation...But damn it if i won't see Iron Man 2. Let's just hope this wonderful actor finds the personal strength not to fall off the wagon, while ironically playing a comic character known for struggling with alcoholism.
"Many of us have been taken advantage of as teens and so what - it's usually not devastating it happens to a lot of people and there are much worse things that many endure and move on."First, if you were abused, I am genuinely sorry.Second, there is definitive research about traumatic abuse and the level of problems it causes. It has to do with relationships. If the survivor has a positive relationship with significant others who know of the abuse, if those people believe and support the survivor and are angry at the pervert, if the survivor is allowed to be angry at the pervert, things go best.If the significant others do not believe the survivor and side with the abuser, if the abuser had a relationship that was on the whole positive prior to the abuse (this may just seem positive as the pervert is grooming the victim) then the survivor has the most trouble for hte most years.Part of what you see in this video is the two friends cussing each other for not supporting and protecting the other. They are angry at the way they felt betrayed by the other and how that confused and hurt them.Trey
"Second, there is definitive research about traumatic abuse and the level of problems it causes. "No doubt, but there is a far larger body of experience with people like me who just treated it like another experience that was part of growing up and never chose to make it into either a problem or an excuse for following mistakes. That is a what makes the difference, much more than support or any other perceived help that in my opinion only serves to reinforce the victimhood which is the real problem.There are far more people who have been abused and simply put it behind them. That is the successful strategy. If those successful people were convinced of their terrible victimhood as our culture now does, they would be much more adversely affected then they were with the simple strategy of moving on. I know this is hard to accept, since the abuser is in need of serious punishing, but the question is: What truly benefits the victim most. In my case I simply made the the abuse impossibly dangerous for the abuser and it eventually meant nothing to me. If I or others had been made a big case of it, I'm sure I would still be suffering from it.I know some people are abused in more damaging ways than I was, but most make it into a problem it does not have to become, which can be fatal. It simply is not worth it. There are ways of punishing the abuser without further, and possibly permanently, victimizing the victim. There is no money in it for anyone and nobody gets to share your anger, but it works for the victim. That's what matters.
We agree about a lot, and especially about what is best for the survivor being the only important consideration. Thanks for the discussion of such a difficult topic.Trey
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