July 24, 2009

Rush Limbaugh: "Ann Althouse makes a great point."

Transcript.

ADDED: Audio clip linked here.

129 comments:

Sy said...

Ann Althouse is a star now!

Rich B said...

Congratulations, Ann.

jacksonianlawyer said...

I noticed Ann as well in my daily Rush emails. Congratulations Ann!

Irene said...

Congratulations!

Big Mike said...

Well now you're in the big time, lady.

American Liberal Elite said...

It pains me to have to agree with Limbaugh.

Montagne Mointaigne said...

Guess all the ass kissing paid off.

AJ Lynch said...

You are so huge Rush did not even have to tell his audience you were "the blogger law prof from Wisconsin". He just assumes his audience is well-informed and knows you.

How does it feel to be huge?

Jeremy said...

Good lord, could you people suck on the woman any harder?

A mention via the fat man and you'd think she had been nominated for the Supreme Court.

"Ann Althouse is a star now!"

"Congratulations!"

"Well now you're in the big time, lady."

"How does it feel to be huge?" (AJ - How does it feel to be a sycophant?)

And to think people here still think she's not a wing nut.

GFL.

Freeman Hunt said...

Yay!

MadisonMan said...

I wonder if he knows you share a birthday.

Richard said...

Awesome!

AJ Lynch said...

Jeremy:

Lost your sense of humor pal? C'mon it's Friday- don't be such a crank.

Sy said...

Jeremy,

Um, I think we are just having a little fun here. Lighten up will you. Its not everyday your name gets mentioned on a radio program that has 20+ million listeners.

Sy said...

Besides,

Why the hell would we try and kiss up to Ann? Are we expecting some favors over the internet? LOL

Fred4Pres said...

Congrats on your Rush-a-lanche.

And the Rush take down on Obama is well done too.

RUSH: I left something out of the pattern that I have learned watching and studying Obama. We will know when the heat gets too much to take, we will know when their internal polling on this is disastrous, because at that point he will throw Henry Louis Gates overboard, just as he threw his grandmother overboard, just as he threw Reverend Wright overboard, just as he did a Judas on Bill Ayers. "I don't know the guy. He lives in the neighborhood." Whenever the heat gets so hot, he'll throw these clowns overboard. He'll call Gates, "Look, I gotta throw you overboard, buddy, you know, I'll make it up to you somehow, but I gotta throw you overboard." And Gates will go out and say, "I understand the president has to be a politician." Just like Reverend Wright said, "Well, look, he had to throw me overboard, he's a politician, he can't be who he really is." That's exactly right, except he is being who he is, except you just need somebody to translate it for you. So look for sometime next week Henry Louis Gates, distinguished professor, African-American studies at Harvard, to be thrown overboard by the White House, by Obama.

Meade said...

Althouse, you harmless, lovable little fuzz ball, you highly-trained blog specialist, you're having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have, from your lonely little outpost up there in Madison, Wisconsin, firmly ensconced in that prestigious Crazy Cat Lady Box Of Wine Drinking chair at the Limbaugh Institute of Advanced And You, A Law Professor Studies.

Sweet!

Bill Kilgore said...

Don't forget to congratulate Jeremy as well. He was named Chairman of "Whiteys Against Naming Kids Alvin."

That's right folks, Jeremy is now the World's leading Wanka- but you probably knew that already.

In any case- congrats to the host!

XWL said...

I guess you weren't planning to attend too many Madison dinner parties this fall, can't imagine a Rush Limbaugh endorsement will help fill your social calendar out there.

(but, he's right, you made a great point)

To expand on something I tweeted, Obama was sold to white Democratic primary voters as a mixture of Gandhi+Mandela+Adlai Stevenson, and that support of The One would be proof that we are a United States in the United Colors of Benetton mode. No small part of his advantage over Hillary was the racial reconciliation angle, and how he was able to campaign as a moderate and not have to worry about Edwards on his left flank.

So, he sold voters on the notion that his thin record in the Senate, and his history of being involved with the most agitated of leftist race-baiting agitators was not how he would govern when elected. Enough voters swallowed this lie to get him past Hillary in the primaries and then past McCain in the general election.

But now, we see that the Alinsky admiring agitator who honed his political outlook amongst the race hustlers of Chicago reflexively adheres to that divisive vision of what AmeriKKKa looks like.

When Sweet threw him that softball, he swung at the pitch instictively from the 'cops are racist' angle.

Between his mumbling and fumbling through rather easy questions regarding his mess of ObamaCare, to his obvious bit of uninformed Chicago ACORN style race baiting to the Gates question, there's got to be more than a few voters feeling remorseful in helping bring this goofball to power.

Should be a fun midterm election as GOP candidates run against an unpopular incumbent and DEM candidates run away from their association with the rest of Congress and the President.

That press conference is the beginning of the end for Pres. Obama, when he fails to get re-elected in 2012, he'll have this ill conceived little prime time press conference to look back on as the moment that a majority of voters realized exactly who they put in office, and why they won't want him around beyond his first term.

traditionalguy said...

Kudos to Ann from all of your Althouse Chauvinists.

chuck b. said...

Woot!

rhhardin said...

Not the first time. In 2007, Nov 27 real audio.

underlying file.

The Drill SGT said...

grats

L. E. Lee said...

Wow, Ann! Now you have really impressed all of your Althouse Hillbillies!
Rush Limbaugh repeats daily on his radio show that "Obama Hates America." Very classy Ann.

Bruce Hayden said...

Congrats, and I also enjoyed Meade's paraphrase of Rush to congratulate Ann.

Juris Dentist said...

It's a banner day! Closest Annie, who went through months of that lame charade about "cruel neutrality," has finally shown her true colors. She aspires to be the female Rush. Thanks for making it so clear.

Now, just keep eating those cheeseburgers and keep getting your economic insights from unschooled Larry and you are sure to become the female Rush very soon!!

Freeman Hunt said...

I guess you weren't planning to attend too many Madison dinner parties this fall, can't imagine a Rush Limbaugh endorsement will help fill your social calendar out there.

Ha ha. I hadn't thought of that. Is Ann condemned to be a social leper within academe now?

Ever since she got engaged to that winger, Meade! I know! Followed by a shaking of heads tilted just so.

Oh well, she and Meade can go nurse their sorrows at Rush's yacht party with all the other wingers.

Floridan said...

As Popeye would say, "How embarrassking."

madawaskan said...

I also enjoyed Meade's paraphrase of Rush

Phew!

That explains that "lovable fuzz ball" comment...

That's Titus Territory.

Chase said...

You have arrived, dear Professor.

When you are quoted by both the New York Times AND Rush Limbaugh, you've arrived!

garage mahal said...

He noticed you!

john said...

Jeremy said ... you'd think she had been nominated for the Supreme Court.

Jeremy, sometimes you do have good ideas, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. (What do you say we start a groundswell for Ann once Ginsburg announces her retirement?)

In your corner, always.

BJM said...

Whoa!

That's some vortex, Althouse.

Maguro said...

Well done, Althouse. Your analysis of this fiasco has been spot-on the whole way.

Dan said...

Your life is now complete, and when you go to the hall of your ancestors, you can look them in the eye with pride.

bagoh20 said...

I told Rush to do it.

And that: "I hope Obama fails". That was me.

He came up with: "Talent on loan from bagoh20". I ask him to change that one. I gotta keep a low profile.

Laura(southernxyl) said...

Freeman Hunt said...

I guess you weren't planning to attend too many Madison dinner parties this fall, can't imagine a Rush Limbaugh endorsement will help fill your social calendar out there.

Ha ha. I hadn't thought of that. Is Ann condemned to be a social leper within academe now?


Only if academe wants to cop to listening to Rush. How can they acknowledge that they know what he said, without appearing to be dittoheads?

Fred4Pres said...

Rush, get Ann to do a guest gig at EIB next time you take a golf vacation.

Deb said...

I'm commenting on your blog, basking in your celebrity.

Bissage said...

(1) Huzzah!!!

(2) But seriously, let’s get down to brass tacks . . . we all know that Althouse is all that and much, much more.

(3) A bag of chips???

(4) Go get ‘em, tiger!!!

(5) Rrrrrrrrooooooooooaaarrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeremy said...

It's really hard to imagine any other law professor in America thinking that being mentioned by the fat man would be something to be proud of.

It's actually kind of sad.

jayne_cobb said...

Be honest Ann.

You simply mentioned this so you could watch the reaction from the usual trolls. And true to form they show up to entertain.


Oh well. Congrats.

Zachary Paul Sire said...

Welcome to the club, Althouse. Rush mentioned me months ago.

Chris said...

All these guys - Prof. Gates, Pres. Obama, Sgt. Crowley - acting like dicks (to a greater or lesser degree). Fortunately, we, and Rush, have Althouse.

jacksonianlawyer said...

Most "other law professors" are, in and of themselves, are nothing to be proud of, I can assure you.

Alex said...

Interesting that Jeremy chooses to pick on Rush's weight of EVERYTHING he could pick on. I'm not sure liberal fat people would appreciate that.

john said...

Alex -

I know Jeremy. He really meant this fat guy. He just forgot to say who he meant.

bagoh20 said...

Oh Zach, that got a lot of play. I would never remind anyone of that quote. It truly is not flattering.

The price of fame can be high.

Lawgiver said...

It's really hard to imagine any other law professor in America thinking that being mentioned by the fat man would be something to be proud of.

That's just because you're an idiot and have a hard time imagining anything other than the liberal party line. But please, don't stop your bitching and whining, it's very entertaining.

Lem said...

Nice going Althouse.

Profe still got it ;)

Meade said...

"Welcome to the club, Althouse. Rush mentioned me months ago."

Hey, Zach, very cool! Belated congratulations!

But 10 hours a day monitoring blogs?

Dude, that's disordered.

Ann Althouse said...

"Welcome to the club, Althouse. Rush mentioned me months ago."

He quoted the LA Times quoting you to portray you as a fool.

Plus, I've been quoted on RL before, back in Fall '07.

john said...

Zach - that's Ann saying "Nyah, nyah, nyah" /sticks out tongue

I think it's cool however.

rcocean said...

I always thought Rush was too fat to fit into the vortex - guess not.

Zachary Paul Sire said...

Yeah but...he quoted me on election day. That's major.

Dr Dre's Underpants said...

Yo snap Zach.

She bitched you out yo.

Typical of how generous she be.

Lem said...

The first time I heard of Althouse was via Rush.

L. E. Lee said...

Ann Althouse bragged
"Plus, I've been quoted on RL before, back in Fall '07."

All I can say is BIZARRE.

chickenlittle said...

Yeah but...he quoted me on election day. That's major.

Zach: If Limbaugh knew how much you loathed Palin, he'd strike you from his records.

Congratulations Althouse!

Lem said...

20 million listeners.. I brag till I burst.

D-Day said...

Althouse:Limbaugh :: Frontpaged Commenters:Althouse. True?

Which begs the question - now that it's happened, are you going to try to Rush-bait so it'll happen more?

Lem said...

..are you going to try to Rush-bait so it'll happen more?

Let the NYT run another weak article and see what Althouse does with it.. I bet she hits it out again ;)

Invisible Man said...

Fortunately, we, and Rush, have Althouse.

Yes, that paragon of virtue who calls 13 year old girls "the family dog". Yeah, he's not an asshole!

And don't forgot the pill habit!

Michael Hasenstab said...

Way to go, Althouse!!

Let's see. Althouse has been quoted by Limbaugh, and I have been quoted by Althouse, therefore......something or other. I'll figure it out later. Right now I need a celebratory beer.

RLB_IV said...

I would be interested in knowing how the attention by Lindaugh will increase the hits to this site.

One year ago I attended a dinner party while visiting close friends on the California coast. In attendance were two trial lawyers, a judge and several entrepreneurs. The discussion of blogs moved from hard legal blogs to an independent woman who was a tenured professor at UW. The name was Althouse. I think that the regulars on this site would be surprised at the names of the people who "visit" and read the comments.

For Meade, as we say in Ca, Dude you found a keeper.

Michael Hasenstab said...

Way to go, Althouse!!

Let's see. Althouse has been quoted by Limbaugh, and I have been quoted by Althouse, therefore......something or other. I'll figure it out later. Right now I need a celebratory beer.

john said...

Michael - how many beers?

D-Day said...

I bet she hits it out again

Although she's not always so ready to make fun of silly NYT articles. :)

TRO said...

Jeremey said:

"Good lord, could you people suck on the woman any harder?

A mention via the fat man and you'd think she had been nominated for the Supreme Court.

"Ann Althouse is a star now!"

"Congratulations!"

"Well now you're in the big time, lady."

"How does it feel to be huge?" (AJ - How does it feel to be a sycophant?)

And to think people here still think she's not a wing nut.

GFL."

Jealousy is not pretty.

Lem said...

..not always so ready to make fun of silly NYT articles.

Look.. thats why the off-season was invented.

Its a CIVIL war ;)

Penny said...

It's a wonderful thing watching your star shining brightly, and rising fast. Well deserved.

Congratulations!

Now, about poking fun at the NYT's? May I suggest that you hold off on that for just a bit. They have a great social section, and all of us would love to see your wedding to Meade covered prominently. Ironically, it may be the only way we get some details, not to mention some professional pictures.

Cedarford said...

Penny -
Meade&Anne's wedding may be considered a "newsworthy" event....I'd give them a good shot at a NYTimes piece just on backstory - plus getting blurbs on other media, like 'ol Rushbo.

Then again, they may want it small and private, kids, ex's, old friends..

=================
One of these days, Althouse has to use another arrow in her quiver and have a local art show of the 30-40 pictures she feels are her best work. Listen to critics, then do a LA or NYC one. Maybe NYC, given her time there and NYT connection. (May have to hurry, the NYT may not be around forever..) It's not like Ann Althouse fears criticism too much to do it..

Meades work might compliment such an exhibition.

MadisonMan said...

I guess you weren't planning to attend too many Madison dinner parties this fall, can't imagine a Rush Limbaugh endorsement will help fill your social calendar out there.

The near west side of Madison really is not that close-minded.

Penny said...

Cedarford, I am glad you brought up Althouse's photographic talent. Especially since I said that the NYT's would give us professional pictures. What I meant was, professional pictures of the two of them together.

I love the idea of a one woman show of Althouse photographs, and I hope she explores that possibility.

As for her wanting a private wedding? Hm?

I am thinking she just might prefer the appearance of a private wedding, with just the kids and close family and friends...and the NYT's. But then again, what do I know?

Penny said...

I just had another thought on this wedding that would be VERY cool.

Althousians know she is always dropping off puzzle pieces for us to slip together. What if she said to us, "If you know where and when it is, consider yourself invited."

I think we would all have a lot of fun with that.

glam1931 said...

Jeremy can't mention Rush without adding the adjective "fat"; bereft of ideas, like a child he must resort to personal insults. Anyone see Rush on Greta last night or tonight? He's actually looking surprisingly svelte.

1jpb said...

Maybe Rush et. al. (i.e. the Palin pushers) will choose Althouse as their new savior.

But, how will she overcome her heresy regarding the social issues? Well, at least she'd only be a flip flopper. This--as every serious Christian knows--is much better than a flip flopper Mormon (or Freemason; thankfully Ms. Althouse was never welcome in that un-Christian group.)

kentuckyliz said...

Obama is a frackin idiot. I just watched his presser in which he backpedals from his statements about Gates and the cop/PD--and says the police PULLED Gates out of his house.

What a frackin' idiot.

Jason (the commenter) said...

Sy : Ann Althouse is a star now!

Ann Althouse was always a star!

This is fun though, and way more impressive than the stuff she does with that New York paper no one reads.

rcocean said...

Per Rush on Elecion day

"They (LA TImes) quote these people all over the place. "Zachary Paul Sire, a freelance writer from Huntington Beach, dubbed the condition 'Election Obsessive Compulsive Disorder' on his blog. The 31-year-old Obama supporter estimated he has spent at least 10 hours a day monitoring blogs, television and polls since the party conventions this summer. 'I genuinely feel nervous,' Sire said. 'I'm not being able to sleep, not eating as much or eating at strange hours of the day, being irritable toward the people I live with.'

Penny said...

There's an elephant in the room, and we think he's here to entertain us.

JAL said...

Ah hem.

It is possible I am not the first to have done so, but -- during the Sotomayor confirmation hearings it was I, not a lovable fuzzball, not a lawyer, and certainly not an Obama fan, who suggested that Professor Ann Althouse be nominated to SCOTUS.

If that were like making nominations for a Nobel Prize, it might even mean a teensy something.

But I was first, regardless. Or maybe second or something.

JAL said...

The assumption by Rush was that everyone knew "Ann Althouse" is someone?

Penny said...

Exactly, JAL. That's how word of mouth goes.

OH! Wow, how about that elephant in the room!

LoafingOaf said...
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LoafingOaf said...

Althouse has been trying hard to get mentioned by Rush for ages now, just as she tries to get links from Drudge. Insta-lanches are not enough for the ambitious blogger.

But the law professor remains unconcerned that Gates was handcuffed and arrested despite not having committed a single crime. All B.S. charges were quickly dropped. Whatever a dick and an asshole Gates was, he COMMITTED NO CRIME. YET HE WAS HANDCUFFED AND ARRESTED AT HIS OWN HOME.

Rush Limbaugh, of course, IS a criminal, who had people buying OxyContin for him in violation of the law. Why isn't Rush in jail? There are plenty of people in jail in the USA for doing nothing more than being found in possession of drug paraphenelia after having bought crack pipes that are legally and openly sold in gas stations in the inner cities.

While Althouse takes her victory lap for getting a mention on Rush's show, after years of kissing up to Rush, it doesn't go unnoticed that she doesn't seem to mind that Gates was arrested despite having not committed a single crime.

Why isn't a law professor concerned about this?

hdhouse said...

I'm truly very sorry Ann. What did Ben Franklin say? "It's like calling an ox a bull...thankful for the compliment but much rather back have what is naturally his".

Rush is a two-bit felon type...a liar and perveracator..which you note he does shortly after citing you....the keyed microphone part...don't you think that would be out if it were true or even just existed at all?

Using your blog and your name lends credibility to an otherwise incredible person. don't anyone waste time baskind in the reflection here as the water that tosses up the image is full of shit.

John Lynch said...

Cool. Good for Althouse.

Jim said...

LoafingOaf -

"Gates was arrested despite having not committed a single crime. "

Since you want to drag it here too: Gates was screaming at the top of his lungs on his front porch. You go do that until the neighbors complain and call the police. When the police get there, refuse to stop yelling, see how quickly you wind up in the back of a car for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace.

Your right to yell and scream on your own property ends at the point you begin making a public nuisance of himself, which even the neighbors say he was doing.

As a column I linked on the other thread pointed out, if the investigating officer had been black Gates would have never raised a stink. He would have handed over his ID and the officer would have been on his way. Gates was the racist one who got bent out of shape because the guy was white.

He got the same treatment any other jackass who decides to make a public spectacle of themselves would get if they refused to chill out when a police officer asks them to: a trip to the hoosegow. A trip that he specifically requested.

He got the 15 minutes of fame that he wanted, what you are complaining about?

Alex said...

Why is Althouse exploding in popularity? Because she represents middle America values, the swing voter. Everyone wants her vote, you have to earn it. Also she doesn't suffer fools(except Titus and Jeremy).

Synova said...

I just seriously am amazed at how "liberals" feel entitled to treat public servants.

Gates did "nothing wrong" by being abusive because the police don't have the right not to be abused? They have to just take it because... why? Because we PAY them?

They can't return the favor by NOT responding to that address or complaints from Gates, as would be the immediate and absolute response from any PRIVATE security firm.

No one given a choice would stand and take abuse like that. Why is it okay in your minds, not only to treat a person that badly, but to insist that its a RIGHT to treat a person that badly?

Jim said...

Synova -

" Why is it okay in your minds, not only to treat a person that badly, but to insist that its a RIGHT to treat a person that badly?"

It comes from a fundamental ignorance of the law and the limits of First Amendment rights.

Gates had the right to say what he wanted to say...but he didn't have the right to make a public nuisance of himself by saying it at the top of his lungs in front of the entire neighborhood.

There seems to be a perception that he had an inviable right to do whatever he pleased so long as he was on his own property which is completely and utterly wrong.

Much like noise ordinances all over the country, there are limits to what you can and can't do...and how loudly you're allowed to do them.

As the saying goes "Your right to throw a punch ends at the tip of my nose."

As soon as Gates began making a general jackass out of himself in full view of the rest of the neighborhood, he was "disturbing the peace" and could have lawfully been taken into custody immediately.

That he was also attempting to incite the crowd against the officer made it "disorderly conduct," and he could have lawfully been taken into custody immediately.

The officer did him the courtesy of requesting that he stop several times. Gates refused each time. He had his chance to avoid getting arrested, but he was absolutely insistent that he be arrested. So the officer obliged him.

It really couldn't be any more cut and dried of a case. It was in front of multiple witnesses - both civilian and uniformed, from 2 different police departments.

That Obama was forced to walk back his previous attack on the Cambridge police is the most telling of all the evidence. The entire incident was on tape, and the Cambridge PD threatened to release those tapes in order to defend the actions of their officer.

I guarantee that Obama was told exactly what was on those tapes and told, in no uncertain terms, that if he didn't make amends that they would release those tapes showing just how far out of line Gates really was.

Obama wouldn't have publicly made a personal phone call to a racist jerk to issue a non-apology apology. That he did so tells you that he knows Crowley is no such animal.

[Notice that his phone call to Gates was not nearly so public. I imagine that Obama explained to him that he had been told what was on the tapes and that he could no longer stand unconditionally behind him as he had Wednesday night.]

The rest of the whining from the liberals here has nothing to do with principle or a sincere belief that Gates did nothing wrong. At this point, only a fool would believe that to be the case and I give our fellow commenters more faith than that. No. This is about trying to defend Obama's original "stupid" remark and being unwilling to admit that Obama could have so badly botched the situation.

Freder Frederson said...

The whole problem with Ann's self-congratulatory post is that Rush is simply wrong. Ann Althouse didn't make a great point.

If Ann were more interested in the facts than in pandering to her right-wing base, she would have discovered that the Sgt. Crowley was satisfied that Prof. Gates was the legitimate resident of the house. Ann's query about whether Gates' Harvard ID had his address on it is completely irrelevant as Sgt Crowley admitted in his police report that he had established Gates' identity and residence to Crowley's own satisfaction.

It was Sgt. Crowley who apparently refused to identify himself (in violation of Mass. law) to Prof. Gates.

scinfinity said...

...except Crowley DID identify himself to Gates.

Repeatedly.

Gates didn't want to listen because this "icon" of an "academic discipline" long known for its sheer lack of intellectual discipline had a chip on his his shoulder.

The cop was right and Gates was a petulant, racist child.

I just hope next time somebody breaks into his house, the cops refuse to help.

LoafingOaf said...

Jim: It comes from a fundamental ignorance of the law and the limits of First Amendment rights.

Jim, you may enjoy inventing your own laws of a fantasy version of Massachusetts and then praising the cop for following the laws you made up, but if you're gonna call others ignorant of the actual law in Massachussets you should refer to what the law in that state actually is.

Here's a link to help you out, from a blogger at Volokh Conspiracy. Note that the courts have stated that arresting people behaving as Gates did is a violation of free speech rights.

After you're done reading that link, explain why it's not you who was speaking in ignorance. Seems pretty clear (to me, anyway) that the cops abused their power and Gates did not violate the law. The cops acted stupidly, as someone pointed out.

A commenter at Volokh also makes an interesting argument that the cop may actually have intentionally lured Gates outside for the purpose of creating a situation where he could arrest Gates for "disorderly conduct". But even with that, Gates still was not in violation of the law.

The rest of the whining from the liberals here has nothing to do with principle

Though I'm not a "liberal", I guess I'm lumped in with this. I'm critical of all parties involved in this episode, though the cop abusing his power is most offensive to me and my principles. It's not a big deal to me whether Obama was wise or unwise to have commented on the matter when asked about it. I guess I'm supposed to consider it some sort of major presidential scandal because GOP shills like Limbaugh have whipped you into a frenzy over it?

You are hellbent on defending all of Officer Crowley's actions, I guess because you're an authoritarian right winger and because you're a partisan Republican looking to score points against Obama. I'll stick with my principles that make me condemn cops abusing their powers, thanks.

LoafingOaf said...

There's scinfinity, acting like everything the cop claims is automatically what actually happened. Since we know the cop arrested a man at his own home when the man did not violate any law, I will not just automatically believe everything the rogue cop says.

LoafingOaf said...

The entire incident was on tape, and the Cambridge PD threatened to release those tapes in order to defend the actions of their officer.

I guarantee that Obama was told exactly what was on those tapes and told, in no uncertain terms, that if he didn't make amends that they would release those tapes showing just how far out of line Gates really was.

The fact that they have not released the tapes might also mean the tapes would reveal some bad things about the cop.

Whatever is on the tapes, we already know Gates committed no crime and is allowed to be an asshole to intruding strangers in his own home who refused to stop fucking with him even after they determined there was no burglary.

IT may be helpful to hear the tapes, however, to determine what crimes or other abuses of power the police may have committed.

Alex said...

LoafingOaf - yeah he did commit a crime - "disorderly conduct". BTW, he was taken down to the station and released. Big whup.

Dody Jane said...

We will be interested in the repercussions of being mentioned positively by Rush. Do keep us posted.

traditionalguy said...

Loafing Oaf...All of your last comment is so yesterday's issues. The news today is that Black Racissim has lost its power to intimidate good people.Gates' usual suspects are all squeeky clean and are not going to take the abuse from Gates' usual race hustle anymore. That leaves the election of Obama as a very good thing for its hastening the end of our routine submission to illegitimate authority to atone for national embarrassment over the past treatment of Dr King's people. But it also signals the end of Obama's illegitimate authority awarded to him for the fact that he, like Gates, is an educated half black man. Get with it Oaf. Times a wasting to come up with a relevant new accusation.

Ben (The Tiger in DC) said...

Rush takes care of his audience.

That's how he got so big.

John Lynch said...

If the problem was disorderly conduct (yelling at the police), couldn't that have been solved simply by the police leaving?

When there is no underlying crime the police should not be involved.

It's kind of like all the people who've gotten thrown in jail only because of an investigation into a crime that never happened. Without the investigation there would have been no crime.

My bias is toward less police intrusion into our lives. I have no doubt that the police followed the law and procedure in this case. I just think the law needs to be looked at. It seems designed more to promote respect for the police than to protect the public.

Alex said...

John Lynch - the problem is Obama and the media turned this into a race issue.

John Lynch said...

I agree that the President and the media hyped this.

I think it backfired.

Alex said...

In all this the GOP comes out smelling like roses while the Donks reek of shit.

section9 said...

Congratulations, Annie!

Now to get you on as one of his guest hosts when he goes on vacation.

RUSH!!!! WE KNOW YOU LURK HERE!!!

Your guest hosts, for the most part, give the audience A CASE OF THE ASS!

Audition Anne! You won't regret it.

Issob Morocco said...

Perhaps the more troubling aspect of this episode is how the 'political class' views average folks. Gates and Obama, when confronted with an issue involving the non- political class, get condescending with those who are not wealthy, nor tied into the Beltway/New York Axis of Influence but merely the middle class doing their jobs.

For Gates he is going to call the chief of Police to browbeat an officer checking out a break in report, for Obama, the Police acted stupidly even though he didn't know the details. Because he thinks so, it is so, that is why he is The One. That is why he didn't apologize.

Their true colors come out, they don't trust us, the people. This microscopic scene fits into the larger rush to pass bills with no knowledge of what is being done. The lust for power is what lies below the thin liberal veneer.

We, the hoi polloi, are not to be bothered by the details of what is going to happen to our jobs and our healthcare. The political class knows best.

Obama never had a true job before the election and now that he does, where his words and actions drive results, it shows.

John Lynch said...

Thinking more about the class issue, it's not that Gates got special treatment so much as everyone should get the treatment he did.

garage mahal said...

He quoted the LA Times quoting you to portray you as a fool..

Limbaugh quoted you as making a good point. Which makes you a fool if you think it's a compliment. You can bet your mortgage on which way Limbaugh will fall if an issue of a black guy getting arrested by a white guy arises. Every single time.

traditionalguy said...

Garage...Your comment is so yesterday's news too. Your liberal-for-life team needs a brand new set of accusations if you want to stay in the game.

garage mahal said...

Traditionalguy
Can you imagine a scenario where Limbaugh sides with a black guy arrested by a white cop if there was an issue concerning that arrest? Ain't happening. Don't kid yourself.

traditionalguy said...

Garage...Yes, I can easily see Rush Limbaugh siding with Clarence Thomas over an attempted High Tech Lynching by Massachusetts Senators. The racial division everywhere all the time meme is Gone with The Wind and will never have its former power again. What will CNN, and NBC, and you do for relevant conversations now?

master cylinder said...

I think it's fitting-Rush citing Ann.
makes everything more clear for me.
everyone is back in their places.
Have fun old white people.

garage mahal said...

Garage...Yes, I can easily see Rush Limbaugh siding with Clarence Thomas over an attempted High Tech Lynching by Massachusetts Senators.

He's part of their tribe. I stand corrected!

Laura(southernxyl) said...

"Have fun old white people."

Oh, we will, never fear! Thanks for the good wishes!

Synova said...

"Can you imagine a scenario where Limbaugh sides with a black guy arrested by a white cop if there was an issue concerning that arrest? Ain't happening. Don't kid yourself."

Limbaugh makes hay with controversy. Without controversy there is nothing to talk about.

There is no controversy when someone (as Limbaugh certainly would) sides with a black or minority person who was victimized. It would be as if, instead of defending Letterman, all the "liberals" simply denounced him as out of line... *no* conflict and therefore the whole event is just a blip that passes almost unnoticed.

Synova said...

"He's part of their tribe. I stand corrected!"

Is that your way of saying "no legitimately black?"

Kirby Olson said...

You've done a terrific job with this story, Ann. You're better than the NYT and all the other news sources combined!

I hope you'll stay on the story.

Can you explain what H. Gates was doing in China, and how that might contribute to our understanding of how he reacted at his house?

It seems to me that the left wants to be angry about America, and find bad things about it, so that our country can be communist like China.

The right wants to point out that China isn't that great, it's about as great as Myanmar or North Korea, in fact, and we want to keep the likes of Patrick Henry and Lincoln as our heroes rather than Mao and his idolater, Simone de B.

Obama and Gates and Wright and Ayers would strongly prefer Mao to George Washington.

At any rate, I think the China angle might add something to the whole context of what took place. does anybody know what Gates was doing there, or what he said there?

NKVD said...

This is comic gold - hdhouse tried, once again, to write in English. He got real close on some words, but on others, such as "perveracator" he just punted.

His logic, as always, is all his own. The two dot ellipsis is awesome. It's hard to tell if he is stuttering or too weak to press the key a third time. But wait, here he uses four dots. Man oh man - conservation of periods. What a fucking genius this guy is.

Then, after the windup, there is the pitch. His last sentence, no doubt written as the drugs were kicking in reads as follows "don't anyone waste time baskind in the reflection here as the water that tosses up the image is full of shit."

From the lack of a beginning capital letter to the "baskind" (whatever the fuck that is supposed to be), to a metaphor too murky to be fathomed, he once again proves that he is as brilliant as Jeremy and Titus combined. Ok, he writes better than Titus, but most 3rd graders do.

Maguro said...

Have fun old white people.

You'll be old one day too, sonny boy. Now get the fuck off my lawn!

master cylinder said...

I may be old, but Ill never be a boy.

Ralph L said...

Have fun old white people.
Will travel.

rhhardin said...

You can bet your mortgage on which way Limbaugh will fall if an issue of a black guy getting arrested by a white guy arises. Every single time.

Bo Snerdly, Rush's long-time associate and call screener, is a black guy. Aka James Marshall.

Walter Williams guest hosts sometimes; Thomas Sowell is regularly cited, both black.

Justice Thomas married Rush and his former wife, when they got married; a black guy.

That's just what falls out to me by the way, nothing Rush is pushing.

The only known actual crime is being black and conservative.

rhhardin said...

James Golden, not James Marshall.

scinfinity said...

There's scinfinity, acting like everything the cop claims is automatically what actually happened.

That NOBODY is backing up Gates' story speaks quite loudly. For us to believe Gates' assertion, we have to ignore that his front door was damaged, recent break-ins had occurred, that nobody called to report a robbery, that Gates wasn't yelling so loudly hat Crowley was leaving the house to talk to other officers...we have to, instead, believe that Crowley was hanging out there, for no reason, to arrest a "respected" (by whom, I must ask) professor.

Since we know the cop arrested a man at his own home when the man did not violate any law

He was guilty of disorderly conduct. Them dropping charges doesn't mean he didn't do it any more than a cop deciding to not write you a ticket for speeding doesn't mean that you weren't actually speeding.

I will not just automatically believe everything the rogue cop says.

Yes, he's a "rogue cop" for not kissing the butt of a race hustler and leader of a sham charity.

I love that our brilliant President, in his disastrous press conference, decided to attack doctors and police officers. That man has some RAZOR-SHARP political instincts.

LoafingOaf said...

Sinfinity has already found Gates guilty of "disorderly conduct": He was guilty of disorderly conduct.

That's funny. The charges were instantly dropped. And, as this link shows, there's really no way to even argue Gates was guilty of that charge under massachussets law.

So why was the man handcuffed and arrested?

I direct that question to the rest of America, not to the authoritarian fascists of the Althouse comment section.

Jim said...

LoafingOaf -

And, as this link shows, there's really no way to even argue Gates was guilty of that charge under massachussets law.

Your link shows exactly the opposite of what you claim that it shows. Look right in the statute, it says

"disturbers of the peace,"

A guy screaming at the top of his lungs is pretty much the definition of a "disturber of the peace."

I know you think yourself extraordinarily clever calling people here "authoritarian statists" because they can read a statute and you evidently can't, but you only show that you don't understand what that phrase means either.

Paleo Pat said...

Congrads Ann. :)

scinfinity said...

That's funny. The charges were instantly dropped.

I had a speeding ticket dismissed once. I guess that means I really wasn't over the speed limit.

...which would be news to me.

So why was the man handcuffed and arrested?

Well, according to the cops on the scene, for disorderly conduct.

Unless you wish to argue all of them are lying while the professor is a paragon of truth here.

He was outside yelling. Hate to break it to you, Loaf, but that pretty much IS disturbing the peace. If I was a neighbor hearing it, I'd have called the cops to have his useless butt arrested.

Your right to yell and scream end when it impacts MY right to not hear your nonsense.

I direct that question to the rest of America, not to the authoritarian fascists of the Althouse comment section.

Yes, the fascists who had a cop insulted by the President, Governor, and Mayor. He's such a bad guy. Gates is so oppressed. Really.

Funny, you see the cop as a Fascist and I see the professor as a grade-A moron in a joke of an academic "discipline" who is so pissed off at whitey that he acts like a racist to a white cop who makes the mistake of protecting his home. I just hope he gets his house broken into while he's staying there, calls the cops for help, and they just laugh at him.

It's time to write off the "dialogue on race". It's never happening. I see no point in discussing race when the discussion starts with "Well, we know you're a racist, so..."