June 30, 2009

"I feel terribly '20th Century' with these two boulders of silicone in my chest."

"They simply don't fit with the whole androgynous aesthetic of the day, as epitomised by the elfin figure of the new supermodel Agyness Deyn.... Now I long to go braless, to wear all those pretty little spaghetti strapped tops, to have that elegant, cherry-pipped silhouette that all the models in the magazines have."

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(Fashion pics of Agyness Deyn.)

ADDED: I love this one:

75 comments:

John said...

Ann,

When in the last 40 years have runway models not been androgynous and had the bodies of 14 year old boys? To the gay men who run the fashion industry the pubescent boy is the ideal of beauty. Real women with breasts and curves have never had a chance to be runway models. Where has this woman been for the last 40 years?

Meade said...

"ADDED: I love this one:"

Reminds me of you.

Meade said...

except for the fact that your bust is perfect.

John said...

Would you two get a room.

traditionalguy said...

Great socks.

John said...

The woman in the picture is beautiful. Great skin, tall and nice hips. She just needs to gain twenty poinds and get some boobs.

Smilin' Jack said...

supermodel Agyness Deyn

Someone seems to have confused the term "supermodel" with "funny-hat model."

I love this one

Not only is that dress ugly in color and form, it looks like she's wearing diapers under it.

Eric said...

I'm with John. Runway models tend to have lovely faces but the only way they can be inducing women to get breast augmentation is as an example of what not to look like.

Eric said...

And that look is very flappery.

traditionalguy said...

I guess no beautiful fashion lasts forever. First we had short skirts, and now look at her. Then we had perfect big boobs, and now look at her. Then we had Farah's hair cuts, and now look at her. It would be kinder to men if women's styles were not such indian givers.

Ann Althouse said...

"Runway models tend to have lovely faces but the only way they can be inducing women to get breast augmentation is as an example of what not to look like."

The linked article is (obviously) about NOT getting implants and removing them if you have them. They're considered bad and old-fashioned. The author thinks breasts like *cherry pips* are nice.

Ann Althouse said...

And look at the whole set of Agyness Deyn pictures. Don't judge just by this one. I happen to love these clothes, but that's just me.

Sy said...

Meade,

I always wonder what Ann looked like when she was younger. Now I know :)

bearbee said...

Create implants that can be deflated-inflated as fashion/trend/fad/feel/occasion dictates.

John said...

"Meade,

I always wonder what Ann looked like when she was younger. Now I know :)"

Ann put a picture of herself up a while back that showed her when she was like 20. She was totally in late 60s fashion but was pretty damned hot I have to admit.

Maguro said...

Create implants that can be deflated-inflated as fashion/trend/fad/feel/occasion dictates.

Remember the Reebok Pump?

John said...

"And look at the whole set of Agyness Deyn pictures. Don't judge just by this one. I happen to love these clothes, but that's just me."

Looking at some of the set, she looks like a cross between a young Mia Farrow and Melanie Griffith in Blade Runner. In some of the shots she is beautiful. In others, she looks like a homely boy. It depends on the angle the camera catches her face. She strikes me as one of those women fashion types (gay men and fashionista women) fawn over but straight men look at and wonder what the big deal is.

BJK said...

The truth was I felt like a transvestite. Instead of giving me the desired Jessica Rabbit silhouette, the implants had made me feel butch (if you don't have the hourglass waist to begin with, that's what happens).


It's not the implants (or lack thereof) which is the problem, so much as the self-image of the person thinking about getting them.

The whole article is about her not wanting to look the way she looks, without any indication that she will be truly happy with her look once she has the reduction. (She's already hinting at the discomfort with having the bustline of a 12-year old....I'm sure she's going to stay that enthusiastic about the decision in a few years time.)

John said...

BJK,

Breast implants do have their place. Some women have birth defects and truely deformed breasts or one breast that didn't develop properly. That very much affects their body image and self esteem. That said, no woman with a well made set of perky Bs should have any need for breast implants.

AlphaLiberal said...

That's androgynous?

Things sure have changed.

traditionalguy said...

Agyness does grow on you. In all the pictures her personality shines thru, and the clothes seem to be made for her patrician demeanor. I like her large hips and strong legs myself. The cherry pips must be dormant inside her clothes.

kentuckyliz said...

I can't tell if that woman is pretty, she's hidden under hideous rags. Looks like she could use a decent meal. Someone please take her to the nearest smorgasbord, stat! Then she might feel better and actually smile.

John said...

Alpha,

She does look very feminine in that picture. But if you go to the link and look at some of the others of her, she looks like a young boy in many of them. As I said above, she has a lot of a young Mia Farrow's look about her.

As far as the value of that look, I defer to Ava Gardner who said upon learning that her ex husband Frank Sinatra was marrying Mia Farrow said "I always knew Frank liked little boys."

Xmas said...

Melanie Griffith wasn't in blade runner. You're thinking of Daryl Hannah.

(If this was Fark I'd say, "You're thinking of Hannah Montana")

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

She's fabulous and beautiful.

The clothes are amazing.

I would not call her androgynous. She also doesn't have the body of a 14 year old boy. She has hips. Her tits are small but that's ok. I like little tits. I like big tits too. I don't care for silicone tits though. I like women's nipples as well, especially when they are erect.

Women's tits are very comforting and I like to put my head on them in the park and take a nap. I feel safe in a pair of tits, at home, protected.

thank you.

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

tits, just tits.

John said...

STFU Titus

XMUS,

You are right. I got those two confused. But you do see the resemblence don't you?

David said...

Pretty woman--she has a spark.

But buy her a cheeseburger and a milkshake please.

former law student said...

34E? Does that even exist in America?

Whatever you might think is wrong with your breasts, sticking bags of fluid in them won't make them better.

JAL said...

Hi KentuckyLiz. How are you?

I must have missed you if you posted since surgery.

Hope all is well.

JAL said...

Oh yeah. Got it.

Agnes.

Phew.

JAL said...

Instead of feeling sexy and young, I felt like a superannuated porn star.

At 34 E

Well. Duh.

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

A nice pair of tits can shelter you from weathers extremes.

Rain, snow, hot sun.

Tits.

tits are
n
ice

tits
bounce

tits.

thank you.

And
Silver
Dollar
Nipples, happiness, free to roam the planet and search for love and pleasure.

thank you.

Kirk Parker said...

Let me just add my voice to the chorus of straight males saying "waif" is not attractive.

Smilin' Jack said...

The author thinks breasts like *cherry pips* are nice.

But the author is not the target audience. I am. And my taste runs more to melons than cherry pits.

I don't have a problem with implants, as long as they look and feel natural. If you're going to think about what's inside breasts, wouldn't you rather envision nice clean bags of silicone than the fat globules and other icky stuff inside "real" breasts? But if you're thinking about what's inside breasts at all, you're totally taking the wrong approach to them.

JAL said...

Smaller sizes tend to be less noticeably sag-gy when gravity begins to take its toll.

Of course these ladies have tons of money to throw around, even during these tight times. So drooping Ds wouldn't really be their problem, now, would it?

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

A "real" girlfriend, who is just a friend of mine both traced each other's tits (hers) and (Penis) mine and gave them to each other for XMas.

I framed the tracing but decided not to put it up in my fabulous loft.

She also made me a bookmark of her pubes which I use to this day.

Tits.
Pubes.

thank you.

JAL said...
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JAL said...

Along with tattoos, think of what nursing homes are going to be like in another 20 years when little old semi-emaciated ladies are wheeling around with cantaloupe halves on their ribby little chests.

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

I have to say Althouse's breasts are quite impressive.

Firm, nice size and have kept their shape.

Well done.

rhhardin said...

A nice smile is fashionable.

It also works long after your boyfriend no longer notices your looks, which is to say after one week.

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

Oh and congrats to Meade.

Lucky Man.

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

I am fortunate that I have girl friends that let me touch their boobs. I enjoy it and would feel like I am missing out if I wasn't able to feel a rack.

I usually feel a rack weekly.

Pogo said...
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Pogo said...

Her outfit looks like an artistic interpretation of the 1930s, when a woman wore clothes slightly out of date (and her man's jacket) because her fortunes had faded. A flapper, passé but proud.

Seems an entirely appropriate comment on the times.

Breast augmentation is swiftly javascript:void(0)becoming unfashionable, primarily in response to their sudden unafforability, not to mention their association with the Great Recession.

Big breasts were a bubble, too, that had to be deflated. Fashion offers this as an acceptable explanation to avoid the embarrassment of an unmeetable expense.

Big Mike said...

Since Deyn isn't my wife I can tell her honestly: that dress does make you look like you have 50" hips.

Big Mike said...

@Titus, you feel a rack weakly?

Pogo said...

The picture above looks like Ally Sheedy walking into detention in The Breakfast Club.

srfwotb said...

Article: this woman is a major major fashion victim. It's a horrifying read if you can force yourself to plow through it. Relevant point for you guys: her partner, hasn't been allowed to touch them in years.

Comments: Obviously anyone would want them to "look and feel" natural. That's the problem. No one can control how "natural" they look.

Everyone I know who got implants around age 20 has had to have them replaced. That 10 percent number for hardening cited in the article is marketing BS. The docs told one friend it was normal to have them replaced in approx. 10 years because they only last that long - like an american made car.

While I'm at it, I know only two women who got GI stapling/banding of some kind. The weight loss did indeed change their lives, but they both almost died due to complications years after the surgeries. The father of one was heartbroken but he commented that she wouldn't have her marriage or kids w/o it. (The guy is a hardcore Christian btw, before "superficial values" are assumed.)

I'm truly surprised the medical profession hasn't come up with a way to grow bigger breasts naturally by now. What do they do for transgender cases that don't get implants? Why can't they simulate pregnancy or artificially reimpose the hormonal conditions of puberty to make corrections if desired?

I know it's not perfect solution, sagging etc, but so many women I know only got boobs after having kids. In a way implants are a cultural testimony to no longer having 11 babies starting at age 15 and a half in which case you'd want to start out on the small side.

srfwotb said...

When I said "the guy" is a hardcore Christian, btw, I am speaking of her husband who wouldn't marry her until she lost weight, not her father.

Laura(southernxyl) said...

Well, this has been done, and very nicely. Here, between about 4:30 and 5:30.

onparkstreet said...

So, the cool kids are doing retro 90s and retro grunge....the above reminds me of some of the waif-y stuff on the runways in 90-91.

*We just need to bring back Lancome's Mica, and the 90s look is good to go....I miss Mica.

onparkstreet said...

You know, I kind of hate posting here when the comments get all obscene....I'm surprised how much I don't like it, when I can simply scroll past....

bagoh20 said...

I don't know what cherry pips are, but they sound delightful. I think small breast are sexy. They stay where you put em. I like that in a woman.

I never though of that concept that implants would just go out of style, but yes, I can see them getting very cliche' now. That will be very sad for many women. Being fashionable is such a treadmill. I have no fashion sense or interest. I'm freeeeeeeee!

elHombre said...

Jeremy says: "Tits are okay, but no politics without me and my enablers."

R.I.P. Althouse Blog

avwh said...

She paid, in total 18,000 pounds for those boulders! Talk about throwing money away....(a case of having more boobs than brains?)

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Holy crap. Yet another year of fugly clothing that looks like it came from dumpster diving.

The only clothing in that line up that I would remotely be interested in is the line from Giles.

Laura(southernxyl) said...

"onparkstreet said...

You know, I kind of hate posting here when the comments get all obscene....I'm surprised how much I don't like it, when I can simply scroll past...."

Me too.

Kirk Parker said...

DBQ,

"... dumpster diving ... "

Hey: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.

:-)

traditionalguy said...

"All obscene" is not a fair comment. The men are still in shock over losing Farrah Fawcett this week. And the "scroll past Titus if you want to" rule has always been in place. But Titus really loves women in his own way.

Kirk Parker said...

tradguy,

I thought it was the "You'll want to scroll past Titus" law? (You exceptions presumably know who you are.)

peter hoh said...

John wrote: She strikes me as one of those women fashion types (gay men and fashionista women) fawn over but straight men look at and wonder what the big deal is.

Speak for yourself. I will not mourn the passing of the Pamela Anderson style.

Jim Hu said...

I hate the hair in most of the non-hat pics. It's better in some of the other photos of her online.

The wikipedia article also describes how a numerologist helped her change the spelling of her name. Here at Texas A&M we'd have told her to spell it Aggie-ness.

Cedarford said...

"She strikes me as one of those women fashion types (gay men and fashionista women) fawn over but straight men look at and wonder what the big deal is."


Maybe a compromise can be struck. Gay men out of power in judging fashion, female beauty contests, male ice skater competitions.

In return, the military admits the 2400 or so gays they actually think would join and fill the non-professional jobs.

And we could also kill 4 birds with one stone. Put all the gays in a combat infantry brigade. In Afghanistan. Tell them that any 12-17 year old boy they catch with an AK-47, they get to keep for as long as they are in Afghanistan or redeployed to some other Muslim land.

1. The gays are happy.
2. The ACLU Jews will be happy that gays are in the military and "possibly innocent" boys are not detained in US prisons. (As long as they don't look too closely at the arrangements.)
3. Many of the boys will be uncomfortable, at 1st, but will grow used to it, even happy..
4. Back in the States cases of pederasty go down. The government no longer has the headache of holding underaged terrorists, and "how do you feel about gay marriage?" is no longer a Go-NoGO question at beauty contests.

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Breasts? I liked perky Bs as a teen and young adult and seem perfectly fine with the aged still sorta perky Bs I cohabit with as an adult approaching middle age.

There is nothing wrong with fake boobs, but too many woman are afflicted with "the bigger the better" mentality. And once you get past the expected range of female symmetry between hips, shoulders, and breast size - you quickly get unappealing (except to some Size fanatics) of the grotesque...
Sort of like if surgically enhanced penises were easily done - and relatively low cost. I shudder to thing what some guys would do. Or how some women would react if 5 1/2 inch when stiff hubby comes back from a supposed "two-week business trip" waving his new 15-inch dong.

Joe said...

"When in the last 40 years have runway models not been androgynous and had the bodies of 14 year old boys?"

Late 70s, early 80s. Christie Brinkley, Kim Alexis, Cheryl Tiegs and so forth.

(Sports Illustrated has resisted the waif look more than any publication. Playboy is arguably second, though they bought into the enhancement thing way too much; for every natural model, they have one with obviously hideous implants [i.e. coconuts], which baffles me.)

Kirk Parker said...

peter hoh,

And you, in turn, for yourself: I'm surely not alone in thinking that the attractive optimum is actually somewhere between the extremes of Twiggy and Pamela Anderson.

peter hoh said...

FWIW, I read (or saw) an interview with the woman who directs the SI Swimsuit Issue shoots. Among her few rules: no skinny models.

Eric said...

The linked article is (obviously) about NOT getting implants and removing them if you have them. They're considered bad and old-fashioned. The author thinks breasts like *cherry pips* are nice.

Right. I don't see what that has to do with "fashion", though, since for as long as I can remember the ladies walking runways had cherry pips.

Fred4Pres said...

When in the last 40 years have runway models not been androgynous and had the bodies of 14 year old boys? To the gay men who run the fashion industry the pubescent boy is the ideal of beauty. Real women with breasts and curves have never had a chance to be runway models.



Come on, that can't be true...

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

I have a couple of friends that have implants and I don't care for them. They stand at attention too much. Yes, they are somewhat titillating in a dress but when they take their bra off they aren't natural looking.

My favorite breasts are Kate Winslet. They fall naturally. For those of you who enjoy breasts I recommend The Reader. It is a story of Kate Winslets breast in post war Germany. You see them float in a bathtup, swimming in a pond, full frontal, fucking top and bottom and the side. They really are remarkable. In Titanic they were a supporting character but in The Reader they are the primary character. The movie has to do with something about Nazis too but all I know was it was about Winslet's breasts and for me that was enough.

TitusHelloAgainMyFriends said...

In The Reader you get to see teen hog too but that didn't do anything for me.

blake said...

Ha! Pogo nails it!

What I love about these articles is that they're positively anthropological. I would not believe such people existed without these articles. I still sorta think it's a put on.

BJM said...

I love that Althouse reads the Daily Mail.

mariner said...

Ha! Pogo nails it!


He does that pretty regularly.

mariner said...

I thought one of the interesting parts of that article was:

Not that this bothered my partner - he's never been into heaving cleavages - and my girlfriends all thought I was slightly mad.


So no one in her life saw anything wrong with her breasts, except herself. Yet she spent roughly $40,000 and endured all that pain -- and she's still miserable.

Women are their own worst enemies.

Some time ago I was introduced to an attractive, intelligent, accomplished woman. We soon fell madly in love. (Later I discerned a deeper truth in that particular turn of phrase.)

One morning shortly after we awoke and I was letting my hand wander, she suddenly exclaimed, "They're too small!" To me they were, if anything a little too large.

I had a sudden flash of insight: no surgeon can fix the disfigurements between our ears.