October 10, 2008

"George Bush has probably had the hardest administration since Lincoln. I feel for him."

"But his speech on the economy just now was lackluster."

Lackluster!

He's lost The Corner!

ADDED: Wonkette live-blogged:
10:28 AM — So far he has explained why everything sucks, and told people not to freak out too much about everything sucking....

32 comments:

Dust Bunny Queen said...

His speech would have been better with giant underpants on his head.

Just saying.

Host with the Most said...

Did I mention that today over 60% of Americans believe that American intervention in Iraq will be judged to have been a success in the future?

Host with the Most said...

Put your bets down now for 2034.

IF by then Iraq is even a modest success, Bush will move into the upper 25% of Presidential Esteem among historians. (Shoot, it's been 25 years since Nixon, and look at his rankings).

AND, if the US is attacked at all - anywhere on US sovereignty - during an Obama admin, then Bush's ability to keep the US safe for 7+ years after 9/11 will put him into the top 10 - 15% of Presidents.

The economy can go as recessiony as it wants until Jan 20, but if it's not a depression, it will be minimal in Bush's later historical evaluations. That's just the way it works with the judgment of history in America.

Bush haters - get ready!

Michael said...

"George Bush has probably had the hardest administration since Lincoln."

And who should we blame for that?

How about George W. Bush and Dick (and I do mean "dick") Cheney?

Michael said...

Host with the Most said..."Did I mention that today over 60% of Americans believe that American intervention in Iraq will be judged to have been a success in the future?"

But where's the link, the quotations, the reference?

You're PLAGIARIZING, DUDE.

john said...

I blame Lincoln.

Darcy said...

He's lost The Corner!

Well, not sure who Charlotte Hays is...but regarding the rest of The Corner, that wouldn't be news.

Alex said...

If Bush had simply never engaged in "compassionate conservatism" we wouldn't be in this mess.

AJ Lynch said...

Everyone should STFU about the market.

It is like ED; keep talking about it makes it worse. Not that it has ever happened to me.

Triangle Man said...

I blame The Onion for the trouble Bush has faced. They set the tone early on, and clearly history was listening. Oh, and also Will Ferrell and SNL. If they hadn't made jokes about the future troubles of the Bush presidency, none of this would have happened.

Alex said...

I hope the DJIA craters to 4000...

Sloanasaurus said...

The economy can go as recessiony as it wants until Jan 20, but if it's not a depression, it will be minimal in Bush's later historical evaluations. That's just the way it works with the judgment of history in America.

Bush haters - get ready!


The onus will be on Obama (if he is elected) to get us out of it. FDR came in after had 3 1/2 years of Hoover trying an failing to stem off depression. Obama is coming in at 1930, not 1933. We could get 2 years of Obama failing at recovery, causing a change in majority in the House at the very least.

The way this is going the recession is going to last quite a while.

Original George said...

Sometimes I think we'd be better off with a parliamentary system in which elections could be rapidly called and held.

Johnson and Vietnam. Nixon and Watergate. Reagan's doddering. Clinton's debacle. Bush, like him or not, is worn out.

It takes us too long to steer the ship in different directions.

No new President until Jan. 20. And when would his new policies rev up? A year from now?

junyo said...

AND, if the US is attacked at all - anywhere on US sovereignty - during an Obama admin, then Bush's ability to keep the US safe for 7+ years after 9/11 will put him into the top 10 - 15% of Presidents.

No, it'll get spun that due to the international enmity and loss of respect that Bush caused, a followup attack was inevitable. We will be comforted by Obama's quiet but bold leadership; I'm thinking no tie and rolled up sleeves standing atop a pile of rubble where a major US landmark used to be, flag backdrop, a single tear, regain composure, stirring speech (devoid of actual content) as jets fly over. People are too heavily invested in the demonization of Bush to admit that anything that he did was positive. After all, "liberals" have been arguing for 7 years that the removal of a brutal dictactor and establishment of a nascent democracy was a bad thing. And as witnessed by the lengths to which they'll go to rationalize his past ( a week ago Todd Palin's membership in a fringe party was proof of his wife's unfitness for being VP, now BHO's membership in a fringe political party is no big deal) people will credit evrything including Nov 5th sunrise ("It was never so bright before... and full of hope!") to Obama if he wins.

Arturius said...

No new President until Jan. 20. And when would his new policies rev up? A year from now?

Suffice to say that regardless of who assumes the mantle in January will not have the luxury of the traditional 100 day honeymoon. I doubt the electorate will be in the mood by then to hear about the First Family picking out their china sets and other decor.

I also would like to see a change from the two four year terms and give the president one six year term and that's it. Also a 3 term limit on House and 2 term limits on the Senate would be nice too.

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mccullough said...

The puppy love with Obama will eventually recede along with the hatred of W.

Obama will be judged by what he accomplishes or doesn't. Hopefully, there won't be as much Obama Derangement Syndrome as their was BDS, not because Obama will be much of a President but because, like the strong anti-Clinton shit and the BDS, it's a waste of time and unbecoming of supposedly educated people.

Freud wrote that sometimes people idealize one parent in order to be able to blame the other parent for everything. Freud was basically full of shit, but I think he was onto something here.

The outpouring of love for Obama by some of his supporters (followers?) is just the rationalization of their hatred for W. It keeps them balanced.

They should all grow up. Neither parent is perfect or a monster.

Triangle Man said...

mccullough said...

The puppy love with Obama will eventually recede along with the hatred of W.


Maybe at a population level as collective memory fades, but individuals won't forget. My grandfather ranted about politicians for decades after they were out of office.

rhhardin said...

Bush's pigheadedness has been good for US interests, however needlessly inarticulate he's been in the last few years. Part of pigheadedness perhaps is not bothering to defend it. That part has not been good.

save_the_rustbelt said...

Bush is dishonest and incompetent, and surrounded himself with like individuals, and has created a huge mess.

Obama, now very likely to be elected, is a lightweight and may see primary competition from Hillary in 2012. He very likely will be a 1 term president.

So, for the next four years, invest in canned food and ammo.

save_the_rustbelt said...

Trooper:

Are you really an accountant? Very few of us have any creative talent at all.

Did Goodwin plagarize her work in the Long/Short masterpiece you cite?

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Lawgiver said...

He would often pound nails with his penis at his estate in the Hermitage to intimidate his political opponents.

I used to do that but the nieghbors started complaining about the noise and now that I'm getting older my arm gets tired really fast.

bearbee said...

Alex said...
I hope the DJIA craters to 4000...

Why?

Lawgiver said...

Yeah, yeah, use i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor or weigh. Our spelling rules are like our government. They suck.

David said...

What the hell would you have Bush say?
I listened to him on the radio, which may explain the more positive impact on me. He gave the facts, and gave a very good, brief and understandable summary of what steps are being taken. What the hell else can he do?

We are in a economic mess, caused principally by (1) the Congress, Republican and Democrat, (2) greedy and/or foolish financial institutions worldwide and (3) ourselves, who have partied hearty and drunk deeply at the well of easy credit. Bush shares some responsibility, but is relatively low on the list of people who fairly deserve blame.

You can't stand the truth, can you. Bush told it like it is and we want a magic act instead.

Trooper York said...
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bearbee said...

The colossal dog pile of derivative instruments he mentions has yet to hit the fan.

Elected nincompoops litter Washington.

All elected officials before being admitted into the United States Congress should be required to pass an economics-based standardized test.

WHO DO WE BLAME FOR
AMERICA'S FINANCIAL MESS?


Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have enough intellectual depth to even know what questions they should be asking.

blake said...

Lackluster is probably good under the circumstances.

FDR gave rousing speeches while extending the economy an extra, what, 8-10 years?

Cedarford said...

Host with the Most said...
Put your bets down now for 2034.

IF by then Iraq is even a modest success, Bush will move into the upper 25% of Presidential Esteem among historians. (Shoot, it's been 25 years since Nixon, and look at his rankings).


About as likely as Herbert Hoover (who I feel sorry for as a protean man miscast as a politician) and Jimmy Carter (who I don't feel sorry for) - being reclaimed by historians as a great man.

Nixon is a different case. His "redemption" is coming on strong, and rests on several factors:

1. He was an extraordinarily consequential President who left a lasting global and domestic legacy of successful programs and intiatives we all live by.

2. Realization that other "high-rated" Presidents also had tremendous personal flaws - Wilson, FDR, Truman, JFK. But theirs were covered up and not known until after their Presidency.

3. Public recognition that the MSM is not the wonderful, objective "asset of truth and democracy" it was once thought to be. Instead, it is a collective organism that covered up Communist democide, had a 25-year long vendetta against Nixon for pursuing "innocent" progressives we now know were in fact Soviet assets, and which we can now see as being clearly against or for major politicians and attempting to manipulate the public by "editorializing, masked as objective news".

4. Nixon fought back after Watergate, publicly admitted his flaws, asked to be forgiven. (His 1978 Oxford Union speech is cited by even leftist Dons as a stunning, high-point event) Then wrote 6 enormously influential books, became a valued global advisor, and in his end years was seen by those he met as a happy man, imbued with grace and spirituality..

If Bush is to rehab like Truman or Nixon did - he has great mountains to climb, and Bush has short legs, an uninquisitive mind, and lacks the Will of Harry or Dickster..

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Trooper York - No, Doris Kearns Goodwin did not plagiarize in her "seminal" work on the history of presidential penis. She first evidenced her interest in the presidential poles when she worked as intern under Lyndon Johnson.

Of course her interest is primarily in Democratic Presidential penises, so things are looking "up" for Ms. Goodwin.


Of course, Kearns-Goodwin was well aware that LBJ was the most legendary cocksman of his era. His Texas-sized member embarassed even the bulls on his Texas ranch. When called to LBJ's bedroom, Doris went with a sense of dread, being a slight woman. Nothing happened, much to the good, because Kearns-Goodwin would not have made it as a bow-legged talk show regular.

Possessed of extraordinary virility and a weak heart, LBJ wore out or downright ruined a series of white mistresses. He called JFK's pool orgies "Harvard pansy-boy stuff". LBJ said in Texas, real fuckin' takes at least an hour and leaves the women with friction burn marks on her ass or half the wool knocked off the sheep.
President LBJ finally settled on two black mistresses of unusual lubricity and stamina. This had his aides petrified, given his bad heart and high libido. In consultation with Lyndon, they worked out "Plan Timbuktu". If LBJ died drilling one of his two black 'hos, his dead body would be hauled to the Oval Office and Humphrey would be told he died there as Commader-in-Chief issuing orders to "the hero troops" in Vietnam. The 'ho would be given a big sum of money and sent to Timbuktu, Mali.

This excellent plan was sadly ignored by other powerful politicians who lacked their own "Plan Timbuktu".
Wilbur Mills ended up in the Tidal Basin with no paperwork to show he was performing a baptismal on a stripper to please his state's Fundies.
Teddy Kennedy would have been President in 1976 if he had only thought to carry KGB documents for an "un-named blonde female" with him at all times. That way he could have said that Mary Jo Kopechne hijacked him and was attempting to get vital national secrets written on his penis, before he subdued her with his tongue in a struggle to the death as they plunged into the water off the Chapaquiddick bridge.

And Nelson Rockefeller, for all his money, failed to have aides ready to extract him from the clutches and vagina of Megan Marshack when he suffered a heart attack. No "Plan Timbuktu!" for Nelson. Marshack was unable to push the heavy dying Nelson off her for half an hour, then called a friend saying she had a naked, near-dead former Vice President on the floor, and asked what to do. Her friend had no experience with that, and suggested she try putting his pants back on. After 10 minutes, the hysterical Marshack gave up on that and called 9/11.

Now all this is tawdry, but it has historical relevance that goes far past Teddy not being President because he wasn't driving a Volkswagen or lacked the blonde-KGB agent papers...

It goes to Mabel.

Mabel was one of the two black 'hos.

In return for "special favors" only she and she alone would do for LBJ, she demanded he "lay offin' 'bout that nice preacher man, Martin - And get that Bill nice Martin wanted, done - or no more black punanny and "special things" would be comin' from Mabel - no way, no how...

Thus the Civil Rights Act.

Methadras said...

I think at this point that everytime Bush opens his mouth the market loses a percentage or two at this point. I just feel bad for the guy at this point. Just a beaten down man operating from the position of weakness at this stage. Lame duck doesn't even describe it.

Paul said...

Yes but if the market picks up again fairly soon we have a giant W in the stock market charts indicating his double-crash presidency, which makes for a notable legacy...