March 29, 2008

"Don’t listen to people when they tell you not to run anymore. That’s just political bigotry."

Listen to your own inner citizen First Amendment voice.

This is America.

Just like every other citizen, you have a right to run.

Whenever you like.

For as long as you like.

Sayeth Ralph Nader.

ADDED: He's talking to Hillary Clinton... not to himself. It seems...

26 comments:

TMink said...

This is indeed America, at least this week, and I heartily endorse any candidate's right to run, even if they are a damn fool for doing so.

Trey

Slim999 said...

Huh? "Political bigotry?" What is that?

Nobody has said Hillary shouldn't be ALLOWED to run. Some are arguing that destroying the eventual Democrat candidate probably isn't a good idea since that candidate has to run against John McCain.

Having to run against McCain with the added burdn of having Hillary (or Obama) write the attack ads probably isn't going to do the Democrats much good.

It's not bigotry to let people like Nader know that, even though they have every right to run, they have no chance of winning (and in Nader's case, will guarantee the eventual Democrat nominee can't win, ala Al Gore's loss when Nader ran.)

That's just hitting them in the head with a clueX4.

Trooper York said...

They want to keep Hillary in the face. That's why they just released the campaign film about Bill Clinton's first campaign:
"Run, Fat Boy, Run."

Maguro said...

Yeah, listen to your inner citizen, Hillary. You go, girl!

Middle Class Guy said...

Ralph Nader? People still take that old fraud seriously?

"Listen to your own inner Citizen First Amendment vocie." Sound to me like he is listening to voices alright. Someone should tell old Ralphie boy he is demented and belongs in the old con men's home.

rhhardin said...

Nader's talking about his own virtue, disguised as advice to Hillary.

Become mathematicians, girls. You won't regret it, and it's your right.

former law student said...

Ralph Nader -- the Harold Stassen/Norman Thomas/Lar "America First" Daly/Legendary Diaz of our time. Sure he's going to advocate running, because he has no sense of what it means to look ridiculous. Lar Daly was memorable for his custom tailored stars and stripes suit -- perhaps Ralph could adopt similarly memorable clothing.

The main beneficiary of Hillary's continued campaign is McCain. All her talking points are McCain's, except McCain actually was under fire -- he didn't receive flowers from schoolgirls when he went overseas.

Middle Class Guy said...

Just like every other citizen, you have a right to run.

Whenever you like.


From the looks of Hillary, she does not like running very much. She should get on that treadmill once in a while.

George said...

If, next week or next month, we learn even more bizarre things about Sen. Obama, and he suddenly drops out—and Sen. Clinton is still in the race—everyone will congratulate her for her toughness.

Richard Fagin said...

I don't remember the same opprobrium being heaped on Ross Perot in 1992 as is being and was was heaped on Ralph Nader. Everyone on TV seemed to be supporing Perot's right to be a candidate.

Oh, right, Ralph is sucking votes away from DEMOCRAT candiate. Bad, Ralph! Go back to your corner!

Middle Class Guy said...

I do not think that Ralph will suck away too many votes except for the Kos kids, MyDD, or some of the other fringe groups.

Even the most dyed in the wool far lefty knows that he is a hypocrite, con man, and a fraud. But hey, he is wealthy and can spend his money any way he wants. That is is right.

Clinton will not drop out. She has too much to gain. No matter what happens, she wins. If she loses the nomination, she will be more popular and heroic in certain high profile circles and she will be pointing fingers for the next four years. If she wins the nomination she will be vindicated.

Middle Class Guy said...

Nader may have a point. Clinton may be able to get just compensation if she loses or is forced to drop out based on political discrimination. (Sarcasm, I hope)

75K For Political Discrimination

“Chicago aldermen ridiculed and condemned a federal hiring monitor on Friday for awarding $75,000 to the son of the City Council's elder statesman as compensation for a 2003 aldermanic election that was stacked against him.”

"It's not about compensating me for losing an election," Stone said. "It's compensating me for political discrimination."

Only in Chicago would a hiring monitor, who is supposed to investigate and monitor the hiring of city employees, consider an elected position as a city job and a right.

jroosh said...

...that's funny, word has it Ralph's been talking to himself an awful lot lately.

former law student said...

I don't remember the same opprobrium being heaped on Ross Perot in 1992 as is being and was was heaped on Ralph Nader. Everyone on TV seemed to be supporting Perot's right to be a candidate.

Unlike Ralph, Ross was prudent enough to quit after two unsuccessful runs.

In 1992, Ross was making his first run for President. When Ralph made his first run, in 2000, true progressives welcomed the chance to vote for one of their own, instead of the wishy-washy mealy-mouthed, do-nothing Al Gore.

Both Ross and Ralph made runs four years later, against an incumbent. Ross won many more votes than Ralph each time.

Ross hung up his running shoes after two tries, letting Pat Buchanan carry his Reform Party banner. Ralph is now running for a third time.

Middle Class Guy said...

FLS...
Ralph is now running for a third time.

To what end?

Michael said...

I have a "Run, Hillary! Run!" bumper sticker, though it's on my front bumper.

John Stodder said...

Can someone explain to me exactly what Obama's campaign has done to give Hillary any incentive to drop out? Unless you think a stream of insults, threats, impatient whining (e.g. Obama's 'movie' comment) and finger-pointing is what you think would motivate someone with the ego to fancy themselves a president.

Maybe they could bring in Al Gore to sigh at her.

Man, the Obama campaign, which looked so savvy and professional for all of 2007 and the first two months of '08 has suddenly fallen into a self-destructive spiral. For a candidate who has arguably cinched the nomination, he's acting like he's desperately unsure of himself and wants Hillary out of the way so he can go into free-fall without consequence. Or else why would he have signed off on denying revotes to two big and critical states? A confident candidate would have encouraged a revote, which is the obviously fair result.

And he was awful on "The View." If you can be pushed around by Elizabeth Hasselback, the meekest lil' Republican on the planet, it's scary to think what McCain will be able to do to him.

I am angry at myself for falling so hard for Obama a few months ago. He still could get my vote, but he is much-diminished. There is absolutely no reason for Hillary to drop out, and I'm guessing there is a contingent of Obama-supporting Dems who are saying it but hoping she won't actually do it.

Middle Class Guy said...

Michael said...
I have a "Run, Hillary! Run!" bumper sticker, though it's on my front bumper.

So in my rear view mirror I see:
!nuR, !yralliH !nuR. Sounds like an Moslem terrorist chant to me.

former law student said...

Ralph is now running for a third time.

To what end?


Not because people are demanding an alternative. This election, the candidates represented the entire spectrum of the Democratic Party. The people near Ralph's wavelength -- Kucinich and Gravel -- were rather soundly defeated. Ralph's running adds nothing to voter choice. In no way is he the Progressives' savior this time. He's either running out of pure egotism, or he's gone a little wacky after all these years.

Dave said...

Nader was wrong about the Corvair, and he has seldom been right about anything since. If I wanted to quote anyone, I'd tell the Left of the Democratic Party that Ralphie's presidential campaigns are just another example of "the chickens coming home to roost."

Chip Ahoy said...

Together they've spent $165,500.00 so far to get one of themselves elected president, according to this. Man, they must want it something awful. I would view it an act of grace, or at least poetic justice, for it to be denied both of them. DENIED! Yes, I do like the sound of that. It's impossible to open a blog page, or turn on the news and listen for one minute without seeing and hearing one or both of them for what seems like an entire year. And yet, I've managed to avoid subjecting myself to a single speech or ad all the way through. Believe me, that hasn't been easy. This is not fair to me and I resent it. But should one of them buy their way in, claw and scratch, crawl and talk their way in, I'll support them, without any bitterness, just as I have every other president even the regrettable ones.

Middle Class Guy said...

FLS,
He's either running out of pure egotism, or he's gone a little wacky after all these years.



Wacky after all these years? That guy has been wacky since birth. Made himself a lot of dough though. Investing in the stock market with all those evil corporations he keeps railing against. He is a wacky hypocrite.

JackDRipper said...

Democracy has actually broken out and some Democrats want to put an end to it. It's so damn divisive.

Interesting that the candidate who has so far won the majority of the White vote, the Latino vote, the Asian vote, who has won the biggest most diverse states and continues to win the battleground states like Ohio, Michigan, Florida and who is about to decisively win the key state of Pennsylvania is being asked by some to quit the race for the good of the party.

McCain would win a closer race against Hilary but he will crush Obama. Older White Hilary voters and many Asians and Latinos will switch and vote for McCain against Obama.

former law student said...

Older White Hilary voters and many Asians and Latinos will switch and vote for McCain against Obama.

What do all these groups have in common, I wonder.

Fen said...

What do all these groups have in common, I wonder.

They're not racist anti-american separatists?

johnisdoe3 said...

Hillary and the First Amendment. What a combination. Does anyone remember that she supported a constitutional amendment banning flag burning? Hillary would throw our First Amendment rights out the window just like Bush has been doing for the past 7+ years.