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I'm in a state of shock! Nate is dead???
Here's my post from last week, saying that characters were going to need to start dying soon, with the end of the series so near. But I didn't guess that it would be Nate, although someone said to me later (a commenter?) that Nate had that brain ailment which was important last season, but that had not been made much of this season.
And let me say that Peter Krause is a terrific actor, incredibly subtle. Several times when I couldn't even see that he was doing anything special, I've broken down at cried at some little thing.
Ok, so the whole "green funeral" thing was a total set up -- I think. Will Nate die? And will he be buried in the same way that Lisa was? Either way, I CANNOT believe that they didn't give us a "scenes from the next." Total killer.And I absolutely love the Keith-David-and-sons plot line. Ann, I think you're right -- perhaps they will have a happy ending! Also, what is going to happen with Rico? It was nice to see he and Vanessa have a reconciliation of sorts. But what changes will take place within the business? I think something HAS to happen here, especially with Nate's impending problem/death. One more thing: I think Claire and her beau may either clash or bond over politics. Don't ask my why...
I'd just like to say that I was pleased to see that Claire has freckles on her arms. They've never displayed them before. I would have remembered!
new here and feeling rookie!
It might be that Nate is not dead, but that he's had a massive stroke. He's probably dead though.
sreekesh: Well, do you have an opinion on whether Nate is dead?Personally, I think he's got to be dead. He had dead eyes in the end. One doesn't snap out of that, right? But there are four shows left in the series: can they really do without one of the lead actors? They don't need to: he can participate as a dead person, like his father and his first wife. With three main characters in the afterworld, they can do some major things together!
Do you think that Nate is in a persistive vegetative state? Perhaps the family will to make a decision about Nate's life -- and they and Brenda will clash over his fate. Maybe this why the writers highlighted Brenda's resistance to spirituality (although that move also works to contrast Brenda and Maggie).
Grumpy: Good guess. I'd hate to see it just turn into a Schiavo commentary, but there's good room here to go through the issues that came up when Nate was acting like he couldn't stand to take care of a disabled child. He wanted Brenda to get an abortion, so now that he's disabled, she, as his wife, would be in a position to "abort" him. Lots of material there! Maybe Maggie would want to care for him. And then Maggie and Brenda could bond. Or whatever.And those dead-looking eyes that made me think he had to be dead. They kind of were "Terri Schiavo eyes."
Here's an interesting angle: After all of the grousing about how the baby "might" have some sort of birth defect, the baby ends up being perfect, and Nate ends up with brain damage or whatever. Irony and stuff.The other tweaky thing was Nate going on about how he wanted a "green funeral", contrary to his written wishes. I figure the x-factor is that David and Rico heard him say it, not just one of the two.Also figure that Ruth will be racked with guilt about running off and having a "good time" while Nate had a stroke.Either way, this means 170% more hallucinations if Nate dies. Sigh.
Effern: Fabulous catch about how the written request is for cremation. This is a perfect theme for the end of the show. It nicely matches the story around Lisa's death, with the family wanting cremation and Nate carrying out a green burial.The scene with David, Nate, and Rico each getting behind a different approach to body disposal was central to the funeral home theme of the series, and it ought to play out in the last four episodes, somehow. As I wrote in last week's SFU post, I expect Durrell to die.
...OR, Nate "lives" but only via respirator while Durrell kills Keith and David while they slumber; Brenda pulls the plug on Nate and marries Rico, becoming, inexplicably, the totally compliant "Mexican" wife for which he longs; Claire marries the lawyer and moves to the O.C. to have babies; her mom becomes completely liberated, turns to motivational speaking for bisexuality.
Banjo: Or, Brenda goes on an anti-Quaker killing spree, and bombs the "friends" place of worship.Seriously, though, Claire's lawyer beau MUST figure into this in some way. Perhaps he'll offer legal advice to the Fisher's (and Brenda) about Nate's illness.
I loved the scene where Brenda is complaining for the umpteenth time about Nate's behavior to her friend and colleague, who finally has had it and asks her to shut up. Even therapists need a break - maybe especially therapists.
Nate dies and I cannot sleep last night. I feel sad as if I lost a family member.
They tried everything they could to make us hate him before they killed him, but it didn't work, did it?
Yes. Nate is dead and that puts a new pitch dark spin on the whole series. Makes it a novel about a prodigal son grappling painfully with death and finally having to surrender to it. Let's face it, before the series began, Nate was a happy go lucky guy. we know this from his guiltily giddy memories of his Seattle days. I mean, here's this razor stubbly leather wearing guy having casual sex in a broom closet and five years later he's a tortured haunted forty year old dumping his pregnant shrew of a wife and dreaming of a homely quaker while on his death bed. Man! What a downer. Kind of begs the question. Why wake up and grow up when its all leading up to.... well you know. I mean, if he'd survived and done a happily ever after with Maggie then there would have been a point to all the growing pains, but then this show's supposed to be like real life...and death. Alas, the only ray of sunlight is David who seems in many ways to have made a journey totally opposite to that of fated brother Nate. Funny and quite artful how that turned out. I suppose that, in time, I'll come to appreciate the carpe diem message inherent in Nate's death, but right now I just feel like I've slogged through a torturous Russian novel only to get to the end and find that my favorite character gets bitten by a rat and dies of plague.
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